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Message 1043233 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:18:15 UTC

The good news is that forums are up and the projects will be up soon.

The bad news is that the work limits will be quite restrictive for a while. This is because we swapped the boinc mysql db master and replica servers. The master had been mork and mork has just become too unreliable The new master is jocelyn and it has less than half the memory of mork.

The good news is that the bad news is temporary, because yesterday we ordered a new mork! It should be here in a couple of weeks. Details on this will follow. BTW, we also ordered the new science db server!

We'll have to feel out the outage schedule over the next few weeks. Thank you for your amazing support and your patience.
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Message 1043236 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:21:12 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

I think we should have a funeral for Mork when the new Mork gets here. He's been used and abused for a long time and deserves a nice send off.
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Message 1043240 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

The good news is that forums are up and the projects will be up soon.

The bad news is that the work limits will be quite restrictive for a while. This is because we swapped the boinc mysql db master and replica servers. The master had been mork and mork has just become too unreliable The new master is jocelyn and it has less than half the memory of mork.

The good news is that the bad news is temporary, because yesterday we ordered a new mork! It should be here in a couple of weeks. Details on this will follow. BTW, we also ordered the new science db server!

We'll have to feel out the outage schedule over the next few weeks. Thank you for your amazing support and your patience.


Thanks for the update. Oh, btw take a look at the topic. It isn't the 10th today.

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Message 1043242 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

thank you Jeff, for the update

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Message 1043243 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:30:23 UTC

Can it be salvage to be a development servers so we won't have these 3 day outage?
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Message 1043250 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:44:06 UTC

Thanks for the update Jeff. Hope the hard work and bailing wire hold together as we startup this time.
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Message 1043254 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 19:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

The good news is that forums are up and the projects will be up soon.

The bad news is that the work limits will be quite restrictive for a while. This is because we swapped the boinc mysql db master and replica servers. The master had been mork and mork has just become too unreliable The new master is jocelyn and it has less than half the memory of mork.

The good news is that the bad news is temporary, because yesterday we ordered a new mork! It should be here in a couple of weeks. Details on this will follow. BTW, we also ordered the new science db server!

We'll have to feel out the outage schedule over the next few weeks. Thank you for your amazing support and your patience.


Jeff thanks for the update. We know that one of the new servers will be Oscar and Mork has been such a hard and valued worker though these many years that I think he should be the sire of the newest addition to the Seti family and his name carried forth, say as in MorkII?

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Message 1043259 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

Thanks for the update Jeff,

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Message 1043263 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:10:11 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

Hello:

I was a classic SETI@home guy (45,000 hours) from 2001 until they started BOINC, which i didn't like.

I have been offline for many years, but recently rejoined a week or so ago.

I have been without tasks for days now.

I see there is a server issue.

Hope you have it up soon.

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Message 1043267 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 1043233.

The good news...

The bad news is that the work limits will be quite restrictive for a while.

Jeff, when you say "work limits", what exactly are you planning?

If it's the 'work in progress' you've been fine tuning over the last few months, are you aware that it could make the problem even worse?

Recent BOINC clients are designed to back off, and not keep pestering the server, if a scheduler request for more work doesn't get an allocation of work - for whatever reason.

BUT.... that backoff is set to zero every time a task completes. Hosts fitted with multiple CUDA cards can, in the worst case, finish a task every couple of minutes or so. With 'in progress' limits set, these hosts will be sending work requests almost constantly.

To protect Jocelyn, it might be better to increase the minimum time between scheduler contacts. That delay is surrently set at 11 seconds: I think it might be better to increase it to 5 or 10 minutes while Jocelyn is shouldering the burden alone.

I think the config setting is <min_sendwork_interval>, but you'll know better. Because it's a server limit, it isn't reset by the client on task completion.

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Message 1043290 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:56:16 UTC

Nevermind the bad news, I like the good news! Thanx Jeff :)
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Message 1043291 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 20:57:39 UTC - in response to Message 1043267.

Thanks for the idea, Richard. We'll be trying it out.

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Message 1043295 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 21:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 1043240.
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Thanks for the update.

Oh, btw take a look at the topic. It isn't the 10th today.


+1

and that is the US date: month/day/year..........
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Message 1043301 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 21:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1043295.



Thanks for the update.

Oh, btw take a look at the topic. It isn't the 10th today.


+1

and that is the US date: month/day/year..........


OK OK... :-)

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Message 1043314 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 21:41:08 UTC

I have to agree.. Mork deserves a wake when he is returned to Ork.


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Message 1043333 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:05:54 UTC

The name MORK needs to be retired with honors having served with such due diligence for almost 10 years now, and a permanent "plaque" commemorating his service and albiet, sacrifice, permanently posted in a "R-I-P" frame on the homepage. The new one being the "youngster" in the family should be named "MORK-JR. Likewise, his "birth certificate" should be posted for awhile on the homepage listing his "vitals" and parents. (would that make MINDY a mother now?)
I can see that the temporary fix had at least a momentary connection, because one of my computers started a WU download and is now "pending" at just under a percent. Maybe one of these days I'll hit jackpot on the Florida lotto and we can replace all the old ones with new ones named after all the tele-tubbies!
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Message 1043353 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:17:11 UTC - in response to Message 1043333.

Carl,
Actually Mork and Mindy did get married and have a son, Mearth (Jonathon Winters).
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Message 1043355 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:22:13 UTC - in response to Message 1043236.

I think we should have a funeral for Mork when the new Mork gets here. He's been used and abused for a long time and deserves a nice send off.


Invite Art Bell down with his .45. Art would be honored.

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Message 1043356 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:22:40 UTC

I guess this is some kind of false reading on the server status page..

BOINC replica database mork Running

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Message 1043364 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:36:40 UTC

Hello,

I wish you good luck to all what it takes to solve all these problems and that new materials arrive speeds, as were all looking forward I think these worries are behind us ... and finally uninterruptible power cruncher ...
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