hi all

http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/download.php

cu

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> hi all
>
> http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/download.php
>
> cu
>

And, pray tell, what is the lastest and greatest with this ALPHA TEST version?

From Ron Walton on boinc 4.53

"This version fixes a few more crash conditions, adds remote manageability, and auto reconnect.

The status bar now contains an icon representing whether your connected to a core client or not, plus the title bar should contain the machine name you are connected too.

The show graphics link should only show for those applications that can actually display graphics.

When downloading new results to process the client will now detect that the global state information needs to be updated, and will do so.

I believe I've reached feature parity with the previous GUI, there are quite a few features that people want though, I believe John had mentioned another project state that would allow the client to continue processing a project's results until the cache was drained and not request anymore work.

ontext menus and keyboard accelerators are another.

Any others that I'm missing?

I'll be working on the task bar interface a little more until our new version of installshield shows up, then I'll be switching over to writing a new installer.

We know that the graphics displays will not work when running as a service, we have to redesign the screensaver logic to handle a virtual desktop change that'll have to happen when running as a service.

I'll also have to look into the various reports about additional command line parameters not being picked up when running as a service.

Jens also mentioned something about the quick tip experience that I'll need to look into.

Overall, has the new UI experience been positive?"

thx Peter Hallgarten

cu

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Runnig here without no probs!

@Peter: Do you have screenshots of the Einstei Alpha test?

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Hi

Running fine so far, will have a look at the grapics_init error in stderr.txt.

Happy Halloween.

Mike

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> In ALPHA USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
>

hi fharmon :)

Runnig, without no probs!

cu

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How do crunch times on the new alpha compare to the current windows 4.05 seti app?

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> How do crunch times on the new alpha compare to the current windows 4.05 seti
> app?


hi, 1202 Programm Alarm

-/+ 5H00 progress

cu

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I'm not sure why people post links to the latest alpha version here on the live site. If they wanted to release it the the general public, they would post it on the live site. If they want a more testers, they will put it on the beta site. Alpha builds are for testing purposes only and should not be in use by the general public. If you want to run it and risk completely messing up your BOINC install, go for it. But I don't see the wisdom in posting a link to it here where someone might think "oh. new version!" and install it and then get upset when something goes wrong. Sure "it works for me" but someone with a different setup might have major problems with it that could even cause data corruption to files unrelated to BOINC.

Also if people have a problem with the alpha version, they will probably post about it here instead of being able to communicate with the devs more directly as the alpha testers do. Also, people from around here are more likely to not know what they are doing and might see a problem where no problem exists. This can complicate the development process and delay the final release.

At LEAST post it with a warning message! Not everyone knows what "alpha" means in this context.

*gets off his soap box*
ok... carry on :)

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> At LEAST post it with a warning message! Not everyone knows what "alpha"
> means in this context.
If don't know what something means, I either don't use it or read as much as possible about it before install. Comparing to normal release when I trust to author and install it.
I think it is ggod to write about it here, about experiences and so on, to see where it goes and what we may expect in the future. I'm doing news from our biggest local (slovak) web page about seti and any new information I may post there and keep my teammates and all visitors of our team page informed.

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bOINC 4.53 does not improve the seti time.
seti @ home 4.05 5 hrs
you have to be attached to the Alpha project to received:
Seti @ home 4.07 - 3 hrs 22 min
AstroPulse version 4.00 - 1 hrs 40 min

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> you have to be attached to the Alpha project to received:
> Seti @ home 4.07 - 3 hrs 22 min
> AstroPulse version 4.00 - 1 hrs 40 min


hi fharmon

how i can do be attached to the Alpha project ?

cu

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> hi fharmon
>
> how i can do be attached to the Alpha project ?
>
> cu

Hi CU,
Attachment to the Alpha project is by "invitation only".
;)

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> I'm not sure why people post links to the latest alpha version here on the
> live site. If they wanted to release it the the general public, they would
> post it on the live site. If they want a more testers, they will put it on
> the beta site. Alpha builds are for testing purposes only and should not be
> in use by the general public. If you want to run it and risk completely
> messing up your BOINC install, go for it. But I don't see the wisdom in
> posting a link to it here where someone might think "oh. new version!" and
> install it and then get upset when something goes wrong. Sure "it works for
> me" but someone with a different setup might have major problems with it that
> could even cause data corruption to files unrelated to BOINC.
>
> Also if people have a problem with the alpha version, they will probably post
> about it here instead of being able to communicate with the devs more directly
> as the alpha testers do. Also, people from around here are more likely to not
> know what they are doing and might see a problem where no problem exists.
> This can complicate the development process and delay the final release.
>
> At LEAST post it with a warning message! Not everyone knows what "alpha"
> means in this context.
>
> *gets off his soap box*
> ok... carry on :)

Exactly. People, please don't download alpha versions if you're not an alpha tester.
>

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> seti @ home 4.05 5 hrs
> you have to be attached to the Alpha project to received:
> Seti @ home 4.07 - 3 hrs 22 min

Interesting. If true, it looks like they found and corrected that slowdown issue. Here's hoping that alpha testing goes smoothly and the new Seti@home application is released to beta soon!

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Hi

@Papa Zito

Dont forget, when not enough people test the client they will went live project with more bugs.

Just my 2C.

Mike

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> Hi
>
> @Papa Zito
>
> Dont forget, when not enough people test the client they will went live
> project with more bugs.
>
> Just my 2C.
>
> Mike

True, but we do not know how many Alpha testers there are .... could be hundreds, could be a dozen.

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> > Hi
> >
> > @Papa Zito
> >
> > Dont forget, when not enough people test the client they will went live
> > project with more bugs.
> >
> > Just my 2C.
> >
> > Mike
>
> True, but we do not know how many Alpha testers there are .... could be
> hundreds, could be a dozen.
>

There are only some dozen Alpha testers. This is enough at this point and if more are needed, Berkeley staff will have no problem to invite more Alpha testers.

One problem using this Alpha releases in other projects is the risk to impact more then only the client stability if there are not completed development or buggy functions in this releases.

The Alpha test is really a first frontline in testing, all is possible there. That may include crashing the clients and more, including problems for the project servers too. The short communication channels and the limited number of users and hosts to manage, make it possible for the development to quick respond on such problems.

If a largen number of other users distribute such problems around the BOINC world, possible into other projects too, this may become a problem. Until today all went good, but there is no warranty.

So it is not forbidden, because that makes no sense to a open source project, but everybody using unstable Alpha releases, being not a Alpha tester, should have this in mind.

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