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Message 1039090 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 10:53:50 UTC

Damn PC upgrades!

Work have replaced my 3yr old desktop with a nice new shiny Dell Optiplex 380
Not only am I dropping from a dual Pentium D to a dual celeron, my nvidia GTS250 no longer fits!
I do have a pci-e slot in the machine, but it will need to be a half height card to fit in the chassis
Do Nvidia do any half decent half height cards suitable for crunching seti

Sad to see the old machine go - it had crunched 3.2 million credits for me and was a trusty workhorse
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Message 1039107 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 12:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1039090.  

Can't you just ask it back, haven't seen half-height video cards, maybe some older ATI card like 2400.
Or just take a saw and make your own 'Cutting Edge Card', just kiddin tho.
Probably the Chipset used, will do the 'graphics', as 'office machines'
don't need any 'graphical power'.

I'll bet the case has gotten smaller, noticed there are quite a lot of those
little boxes, nothing wrong with them, only very little room for anykind of expansion....



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Message 1039117 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 12:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 1039090.  

Damn PC upgrades!

Work have replaced my 3yr old desktop with a nice new shiny Dell Optiplex 380
Not only am I dropping from a dual Pentium D to a dual celeron, my nvidia GTS250 no longer fits!
I do have a pci-e slot in the machine, but it will need to be a half height card to fit in the chassis
Do Nvidia do any half decent half height cards suitable for crunching seti

Sad to see the old machine go - it had crunched 3.2 million credits for me and was a trusty workhorse


Hate to see you lose your 250, I have one in one of my machines and love it. I am not trying to be sarcastic, but have you considered getting a larger case, so that you can keep the 250 alive?
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Message 1039121 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 13:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 1039090.  

Did you ask them what they are going to do with your old computer? Maybe you could buy it from them cheap. :-)


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Message 1039127 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 13:42:00 UTC - in response to Message 1039090.  

Damn PC upgrades!

Work have replaced my 3yr old desktop with a nice new shiny Dell Optiplex 380
Not only am I dropping from a dual Pentium D to a dual celeron, my nvidia GTS250 no longer fits!
I do have a pci-e slot in the machine, but it will need to be a half height card to fit in the chassis
Do Nvidia do any half decent half height cards suitable for crunching seti

Sad to see the old machine go - it had crunched 3.2 million credits for me and was a trusty workhorse

Low profile (that's the search term to use) CUDA cards certainly exist, but I don't know if you'd call them even half decent for SETI. So far I've found:

  • GeForce 8400GS
  • Quadro FX 370/380
  • Quadro NVS 290

  • GeForce 9300GE
  • Quadro NVS 420

(the first three on general sale, the latter two on the Dell website for the Optiplex range).

The biggest problems for SETI in a low-profile case will be power and cooling - don't expect miracles.

And I wouldn't advocate swapping an Opti 380 motherboard into a larger case, as Clifton suggests: I tried that once, but it turned out that Dell's standards weren't exactly, well, standard. Would have needed a dremmel.....

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Message 1039159 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 15:47:57 UTC

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Message 1039163 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 15:56:03 UTC

We donate our used macines to charity, and if I bought it Id have to take it off site and there is no way I would get any more machines past the missus!
As for moving to another case, nothing is standard about a Dell, so it would be a nightmare job..
I have already asked for my old machine back, but they want lower power draw from all machines, so no hope there, and it is known that I have seti set to use 100% of everything, so Im a prime candidate to save the money :-)

Looks like I will be putting the 250 on the bay, it's been a good little card, and a faithful machine - 3 million is not to be sniffed at..

I will check out the other cards, but I doubt they will be worth it..

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Message 1039189 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 16:46:06 UTC

Don't do that. Move all the Dell components into an Antec 300. Thataway you can fit a full height card in your system and not sacrifice anything.
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Message 1039241 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 18:43:02 UTC - in response to Message 1039163.  

We donate our used macines to charity, and if I bought it Id have to take it off site and there is no way I would get any more machines past the missus!


MadMac-does your company know you've been crunching on their machine at work?? I'd be ***SUPER CAREFUL*** here....the guidelines for Seti have stated for years that you should get permission before crunching on an employer's machine


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Message 1039242 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 18:51:26 UTC - in response to Message 1039241.  

MadMac-does your company know you've been crunching on their machine at work?? I'd be ***SUPER CAREFUL*** here....the guidelines for Seti have stated for years that you should get permission before crunching on an employer's machine


From his last post, maybe re-read the last part of the third line?
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Message 1039251 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010, 19:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1039242.  

Sounds like the permission was revoked
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Message 1039385 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 3:04:34 UTC

A few manufacturer out there have GT240 graphic cards, which need only 'one slot space'.

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Message 1039389 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 3:13:10 UTC

BTW.

Make an internet search with 'nVIDIA low-profile' and you will also find a few..


BTW.

Sparkle have a GTS250 low-profile.

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Message 1039392 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 3:28:34 UTC - in response to Message 1039090.  
Last modified: 8 Oct 2010, 3:31:29 UTC

Damn PC upgrades!

Work have replaced my 3yr old desktop with a nice new shiny Dell Optiplex 380
Not only am I dropping from a dual Pentium D to a dual celeron, my nvidia GTS250 no longer fits!
I do have a pci-e slot in the machine, but it will need to be a half height card to fit in the chassis
Do Nvidia do any half decent half height cards suitable for crunching seti

Sad to see the old machine go - it had crunched 3.2 million credits for me and was a trusty workhorse


Before selling your card, maybe try something like this:PCI-e Riser
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Message 1039428 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 6:06:48 UTC
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OK, now I get it, this is a workstation that can't really be modified or put in a different case. You could try an external solution like a Magma Expressbox: http://www.magma.com/expressbox2.asp

The 240 only uses ~69W max so it should work with this box. The 250 is cutting it kind of close though at 150W, it could blow the PSU.

Or if you're willing to get another GTS 250, here's the Newegg link to the Sparkle low profile 250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187098
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Message 1039432 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 6:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1039428.  

OK, now I get it, this is a workstation that can't really be modified or put in a different case. You could try an external solution like a Magma Expressbox: http://www.magma.com/expressbox2.asp

The 240 only uses ~69W max so it should work with this box. The 250 is cutting it kind of close though at 150W, it could blow the PSU.

Or if you're willing to get another GTS 250, here's the Newegg link to the Sparkle low profile 250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187098

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Message 1039563 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 14:29:25 UTC - in response to Message 1039432.  

Seems a shame to lose the 250. Could you just put that in one of your home machines?

I'm sure you'd sneak that past the missus .....


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