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Message 1038833 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:41:27 UTC

Have to say this is the last straw and I am quiting.
I have detached all of my rigs that have run dry, and as soon as Rig on a Bench has finished it's wu's then it will be detached as well.
Several things have lead me to this action.
Cost of running rigs have hit an all time high.
Servers being down for longer than planned, and being down when they are supposed to be working.
No messages telling us users what is happening.
Need I say more.
I will monitor the pages and may come back when things have stabilised.
I wish everyone happy crunching and hope that the WOW factor is found.

Best of luck but I am finnished.

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Message 1038836 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1038833.  

Sorry to see you go. This is a search that may well take thousands of years with no guarentee of success. We are a part of that search. Will you be crunching other projects?

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Message 1038837 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 1038833.  

Sorry to hear that Dave.

You know what a shoestring budget Seti is being run on. They don't have the equipment or staff to cope with the load that we're putting on them. That's why there was a donation drive to purchase a new Server.

I hope you'll reconsider, but it is your choice. I hope you'll stay.

regards, Giz.



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Message 1038838 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:47:14 UTC - in response to Message 1038836.  

No.
There was only Seti that I was interested in.
Will be shutting the rigs down.

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Message 1038839 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 1038838.  

No.
There was only Seti that I was interested in.
Will be shutting the rigs down.

Dave


31 million thank you's for what you have done Dave.

Hope to see you back.
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Message 1038840 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 1038837.  

Sorry about the shoestring budget but I was contributing around £400 / $500 per quarter towards the project.I feel that this could be better spent.

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Message 1038845 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:10:39 UTC - in response to Message 1038838.  

I will always respect somebody decision, to quit, chose another project or whatever, can be millions of reasons to stop crunching.
Especially the Power Crunchers, which use these boards,
quite a lot and mostly for a good reason. But I'm sorry to see you leave, this,
'endless-search' which could easily take another 10, 100 or more years,
so it's hard to say if this is a meaningfull search, I think it is, cause other
Outer-Space-Events could be picked up, c.q. detected.


This 'last outage', was, in a way, planned, but with such a big SERVER SET UP, very much things only works if all Functions are UP and RUNNING.

I do hope SETI Bêta, will be UP and RUNNING, soon, not 'only'
cause I've a lot of MB tasks are still trying to Report
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Message 1038846 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:12:33 UTC


I understand your feelings. Hopefully everything will be sorted out in the end hopefully when the new server has been deployed..

Remember to drop by from time to time to check upon us.

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Message 1038847 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:14:00 UTC - in response to Message 1038840.  

Sorry to see you go Dave. Don't be a stranger, come on back for a visit now and then.


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Message 1038850 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 1038840.  

Sorry about the shoestring budget but I was contributing around £400 / $500 per quarter towards the project.I feel that this could be better spent.

Dave


Nobody was questioning your commitment and budget that you were allowing for Seti. Also, everyone can see your green star. I only got mine a little while ago.

It has been said before that if all active users contributed $10 per year, Seti would almost certainly be self-funding. As it is, they run on a shoestring.

I too, only crunch Seti. As soon as it goes down I want it back up again. I spend more than I should on computer parts and electricity costs. I always consider how well they'll crunch before doing any upgrades.

On top of that, I've got friends here. Haven't met any of you personally, but I still consider you all friends.

You could cut back your commitment by shutting everything down except one, or you could shut them all down and leave. I'd still prefer you to stay, but I leave it up to you.

Giz.



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Message 1038852 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 1038850.  

I'm not sure why people seem to think that they need to explain themselves online. We are anonymous observers of each other. Most of us wouldn't recognize each other in real life. If you choose to leave feel free to stop doing whatever it is you've ben doing and just go. I think its silly to explain. You're not divorcing us and we aren't breaking up. You chose to come here. Did we get a diatribe on why you came. unlikely. So why should we get one when you decide you've had enough. Good day to you and good luck. As far as your reasons, Oh well. You and everyone else here knows that Seti admins ask and insist you run a side project for down times. Should it be a surprise that the down times actually happen? I don't think so. Again, GL and GD


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Message 1038853 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:35:55 UTC

I can understand how you feel. When they switched over to BOINC I refused to use it as I thought it was rather awful. So I took a 4.5 year break.

As I am not trying to process as possible by using a bunch of GPUs. I just let my machines do whatever on their own which works out ok for me. Sometimes I check to see if the machines are running each day & other times I don't check them for 3 or 4 days.
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Message 1038854 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:36:12 UTC

I think it's totally fair to say goodbye on these boards if you don't feel like continuing.

I also understand if people have had it and quit, no matter the money situation of the project which I think most know about.

Me, I will stay here (haven't donated what I have and then quit...).
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Message 1038860 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 1038833.  

Have to say this is the last straw and I am quiting.
I have detached all of my rigs that have run dry, and as soon as Rig on a Bench has finished it's wu's then it will be detached as well.
Several things have lead me to this action.
Cost of running rigs have hit an all time high.
Servers being down for longer than planned, and being down when they are supposed to be working.
No messages telling us users what is happening.
Need I say more.
I will monitor the pages and may come back when things have stabilised.
I wish everyone happy crunching and hope that the WOW factor is found.

Best of luck but I am finnished.

Dave

Sorry to see you leave but for some reason I don't think they care. With all the problems lately they could have missed this outage......
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Message 1038861 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:56:02 UTC - in response to Message 1038852.  

I'm not sure why people seem to think that they need to explain themselves online. We are anonymous observers of each other. Most of us wouldn't recognize each other in real life. If you choose to leave feel free to stop doing whatever it is you've ben doing and just go. I think its silly to explain. You're not divorcing us and we aren't breaking up. You chose to come here. Did we get a diatribe on why you came. unlikely. So why should we get one when you decide you've had enough. Good day to you and good luck. As far as your reasons, Oh well. You and everyone else here knows that Seti admins ask and insist you run a side project for down times. Should it be a surprise that the down times actually happen? I don't think so. Again, GL and GD

I am glad he did, I think of Dave as a friend and will miss him. At least I know why he left and will be able to tell people when another of those "Wonder where they went" threads comes up.
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Message 1038862 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 19:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 1038833.  


No messages telling us users what is happening.



Go run cosmology@home for awhile. Then, and only then, are you allowed to use this statement.
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Message 1038877 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 20:22:16 UTC - in response to Message 1038862.  

When the project is down for an outage of 3 days which is the norm now.
The admins have not changed the message.
It still says that on a Tuesday there is an outage of 3 to 4 hours.
This is not usefull for anyone that is checking.
It would only take a few mins to change it, it looks like they can't be bothered to ammend even the simplest of messages.
This is just one of a number of things that could be done to make it look a bit more professional.

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Message 1038885 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 20:34:39 UTC - in response to Message 1038877.  
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When the project is down for an outage of 3 days which is the norm now.
The admins have not changed the message.
It still says that on a Tuesday there is an outage of 3 to 4 hours.
This is not usefull for anyone that is checking.
It would only take a few mins to change it, it looks like they can't be bothered to ammend even the simplest of messages.
This is just one of a number of things that could be done to make it look a bit more professional.

Dave


For the past few weeks I have been seeing this message.

Weekly Outage and Initial Catch Up
Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we begin a 3 day data distribution outage to focus on science processing and development plus any needed systems maintenance. The upload/download servers will be offline during this time. The web site (including the forums) will only be offline during the database maintenance and backup portion of the outage. On Friday, you may experience connectivity issues as the servers catch up with demand. 5 Oct 2010 16:34:36 UTC

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Message 1038889 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 20:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 1038885.  
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When the outage is on the pages that you try to access ie account say that there is a 3 to 4 hour outage every Tuesday.
This was still the case today before the web pages came back online.

There was also no mention that the 3 day outage would start at 6am on Monday this week.

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Message 1038890 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 20:40:05 UTC - in response to Message 1038877.  

Jeff Cobb posted the latest update a full 44 minutes before you posted your quit message with the complaint they weren't posting anything. Of course, you won't see it if all you have bookmarked are the front page and the NC forums, or you expect Technical News to be anywhere else than the technical news forum.
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