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Blurf Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 6334 Credit: 5,670,818 RAC: 6,592	Message 1040082 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 3:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1039768.
	Oscar is on it's way but now another server is giving them fits. They were trying to contact some server manufacturers to see if they could talk them into a deep enough discount to use some of the money they got for Oscar to buy a second new server. This new fund drive is to make sure they can get what they need instead of just something to make do. Actually according to MSattler it may not be: They may have to scrap the plans for Oscar as previously spec'd in order to purchase TWO new servers. ____________
	ID: 1040082 ·

arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3086 Credit: 40,200,413 RAC: 65,804	Message 1040087 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 3:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 1040082.
	Oscar is on it's way but now another server is giving them fits. They were trying to contact some server manufacturers to see if they could talk them into a deep enough discount to use some of the money they got for Oscar to buy a second new server. This new fund drive is to make sure they can get what they need instead of just something to make do. Actually according to MSattler it may not be: They may have to scrap the plans for Oscar as previously spec'd in order to purchase TWO new servers. Though the $5000+ we have raised should help on that front. ____________
	ID: 1040087 ·

rriverstone Send message Joined: 29 Sep 10 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,854 RAC: 0	Message 1040096 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 4:19:38 UTC - in response to Message 1040087.
	I have my BOINC working on MilkyWay@home and the Rosetta Stone project. I think it might help yall if I stay on other projects until Oscar isn't such a grouch. Waddya think? ____________ For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. Carl Sagan
	ID: 1040096 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,842,429 RAC: 21,633	Message 1040099 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 4:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1040082.
	What facts are there to back that up?
	ID: 1040099 ·

Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 3885 Credit: 357,538 RAC: 771	Message 1040101 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 4:36:05 UTC - in response to Message 1040099.
	What facts are there to back that up? This message could be a good place to start. Or this one. ____________ Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
	ID: 1040101 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,842,429 RAC: 21,633	Message 1040121 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 5:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 1040101.
	What facts are there to back that up? This message could be a good place to start. Or this one. Sorry, but I see nothing there that says Oscar is not going to be ordered. Just that they are looking into replacing Mork with the left over Oscar funds. After today I would think there will be sufficient funds for the Mork server replacement, or at least repair. Do you happen to know what the hardware specs are for Mork? Or any of the servers for that matter?
	ID: 1040121 ·

Gatekeeper Send message Joined: 14 Jul 04 Posts: 704 Credit: 139,899,492 RAC: 222,847	Message 1040130 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 7:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 1040121.
	What facts are there to back that up? This message could be a good place to start. Or this one. Sorry, but I see nothing there that says Oscar is not going to be ordered. Just that they are looking into replacing Mork with the left over Oscar funds. After today I would think there will be sufficient funds for the Mork server replacement, or at least repair. Do you happen to know what the hardware specs are for Mork? Or any of the servers for that matter? From the server status page: Hosts •anakin: Intel Server (2 x 2.8GHz Xeon, 4 GB RAM) •bambi: Intel Server (2 x 2.8GHz Xeon, 12 GB RAM) •bane: Intel Server (2 x quad-core 2.66GHz Xeon, 4 GB RAM) •bruno: Intel Server (2 x 2.66GHz Xeon, 8 GB RAM) •jocelyn: Sun V40z (4 x 2.2GHz Opteron, 28 GB RAM) •lando: Intel Server (4 x 3.20GHz Xeon, 4 GB RAM) •marvin: Intel Server (2 x 2.66GHz Xeon, 16 GB RAM) •mork: Intel Server (4 x six-core 2.13GHz Xeon, 64 GB RAM) •thinman: AMD Server (2 x 2.4GHz Opteron, 16 GB RAM) •thumper: Sun Fire X4500 (2 x dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 16 GB RAM) •vader: Intel Server (4 x dual-core 3GHz Xeon, 16 GB RAM)
	ID: 1040130 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34133 Credit: 343,210,538 RAC: 538,202	Message 1040176 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 12:23:26 UTC - in response to Message 1040121.
	What facts are there to back that up? This message could be a good place to start. Or this one. Sorry, but I see nothing there that says Oscar is not going to be ordered. Just that they are looking into replacing Mork with the left over Oscar funds. After today I would think there will be sufficient funds for the Mork server replacement, or at least repair. Do you happen to know what the hardware specs are for Mork? Or any of the servers for that matter? I have had conversations with Eric that suggest that Oscar is ordered, but the purchase order could be rescinded it they come to an agreement with another vendor who might offer to supply TWO new servers for the price of one. I don't always have insider info........ This was just relayed to me by Eric. Oscar will be what Oscar will be. A wonderful, faithful servant. Or will we be the servants? That's how kitties are. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1040176 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,507,406 RAC: 10,344	Message 1040189 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 13:26:54 UTC - in response to Message 1040176.
	"Oscar will be what Oscar will be" I like it. Short, sweet, to the point. ____________ Janice
	ID: 1040189 ·

perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,630,511 RAC: 10,201	Message 1040193 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 13:36:35 UTC - in response to Message 1040176.
	At the rate the new donation thread is going we may see a twin for Oscar. Last I saw we were well over $6000. With what was left over from the first drives we might get enough. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
	ID: 1040193 ·

APCyberax Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Jun 01 Posts: 29 Credit: 1,913,136 RAC: 1,625	Message 1040252 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 15:47:54 UTC
	best thing i can recommend to help seti recover is this. Everyone that runs more then just seti... 1) Disable seti for a week and run on another project full time. 2) once seti is back up to full you can disable your other projects and tun setup full time to even out your numbers. This this help the server load while still maintaining the same project radio. If 50% of users are running more then just seti this would help the seti project recover. But all remember to come back
	ID: 1040252 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2687 Credit: 7,627,788 RAC: 23,467	Message 1040276 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 16:31:59 UTC - in response to Message 1040252.
	best thing i can recommend to help seti recover is this. Everyone that runs more then just seti... 1) Disable seti for a week and run on another project full time. 2) once seti is back up to full you can disable your other projects and tun setup full time to even out your numbers. This this help the server load while still maintaining the same project radio. If 50% of users are running more then just seti this would help the seti project recover. But all remember to come back But since 99 % of SETI users never read the forums, they will never get that idea. Most SETI computers are of the "set and forget" type I believe. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
	ID: 1040276 ·

David Anderson (not that DA) Send message Joined: 5 Dec 09 Posts: 81 Credit: 15,263,769 RAC: 34,239	Message 1040288 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 16:52:29 UTC
	> best thing i can recommend to help seti recover is this. Thanks for the suggestion on reducing server load. I run just 1 project, Seti, but I have a backlog ready to run. So I've turned off Boinc network activity on my system and will not restore it for a few days. Will watch the forums in the mean time. Not quite what you suggested, but perhaps it will help. ____________
	ID: 1040288 ·

APCyberax Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Jun 01 Posts: 29 Credit: 1,913,136 RAC: 1,625	Message 1040293 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 17:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 1040288.
	what i did notice is the project requests work units and fails after 2-3kb downloaded and waits. each of them requests has a extra bit of traffic. so to get a work unit its about 100 requests not one. Does anyone at seti know what the limiting factor is is it the Bandwidth. CPU, ram or hdd space? might be able to offer afew ideas if I knew that :) ;)
	ID: 1040293 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2861 Credit: 1,778,537 RAC: 219	Message 1040308 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 18:24:16 UTC - in response to Message 1040293.
	what i did notice is the project requests work units and fails after 2-3kb downloaded and waits. each of them requests has a extra bit of traffic. so to get a work unit its about 100 requests not one. Does anyone at seti know what the limiting factor is is it the Bandwidth. CPU, ram or hdd space? might be able to offer afew ideas if I knew that :) ;) Looking at the Cricket graphs I suspect bandwidth. If you have a gigabyte connection you can donate (and install), I'm sure they would take it. ____________
	ID: 1040308 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34133 Credit: 343,210,538 RAC: 538,202	Message 1040309 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 18:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 1040252.
	best thing i can recommend to help seti recover is this. Everyone that runs more then just seti... 1) Disable seti for a week and run on another project full time. 2) once seti is back up to full you can disable your other projects and tun setup full time to even out your numbers. This this help the server load while still maintaining the same project radio. If 50% of users are running more then just seti this would help the seti project recover. But all remember to come back Bandwidth is only a problem in the hours after an outage...... It is fine. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1040309 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,842,429 RAC: 21,633	Message 1040320 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 19:09:24 UTC - in response to Message 1040130.
	Thankyou. For some reason I've never scrolled down farther than where the Glossary starts on that page. :{
	ID: 1040320 ·

bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,842,429 RAC: 21,633	Message 1040325 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 19:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 1040176.
	Some snippage> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says Oscar is not going to be ordered. Just that they are looking into replacing Mork with the left over Oscar funds. After today I would think there will be sufficient funds for the Mork server replacement, or at least repair. Do you happen to know what the hardware specs are for Mork? Or any of the servers for that matter? I have had conversations with Eric that suggest that Oscar is ordered, but the purchase order could be rescinded it they come to an agreement with another vendor who might offer to supply TWO new servers for the price of one. I don't always have insider info........ This was just relayed to me by Eric. [/quote] That was my understanding of the present situation.
	ID: 1040325 ·

S@NL - Eesger Send message Joined: 7 Oct 01 Posts: 384 Credit: 27,233,437 RAC: 31,545	Message 1040507 - Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 9:50:01 UTC
	There hasn't been a statistics export since the 24th, could it be possible to give the export routine a go? ____________ The SETI@Home Gauntlet 2012 april 16 - 30\| info / chat \| STATS
	ID: 1040507 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34133 Credit: 343,210,538 RAC: 538,202	Message 1040516 - Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1040507.
	There hasn't been a statistics export since the 24th, could it be possible to give the export routine a go? It must have to be turned on manually......and somebody has not. This is going to be a monumental day on Boincstats when it happens....LOL. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1040516 ·

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