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Message 1043157 - Posted: 17 Oct 2010, 15:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 1043138.  

yes, sales tax. Only exception is if purchased for resale.


Don't forget the recycling/waste tax. It probably has to be paid also.
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Message 1043183 - Posted: 17 Oct 2010, 17:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 1043013.  

The machine we are getting is around $13K with tax and shipping.


Tax? You're a university / government agency. You shouldn't have to pay tax. I'm not sure on the law in California but I didn't think that any state in the US charged tax on purchases for a university.

Anything purchased for end-use, i.e., not for resale, by any entity is liable for the state sales tax. Even if you purchase it from out of state from a vendor that legally isn't required to collect California Sales Tax and have it shipped into California it is still liable for sales tax. Technically, you are suppose to report the purchase to the California State Board of Equalization (isn't that a nice euphemism?) and pay the tax directly.

BTW, this is not just California. Most states have their sales tax (or use tax) laws written in a similar manner.

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Message 1043368 - Posted: 20 Oct 2010, 22:43:21 UTC - in response to Message 1043183.  

The machine we are getting is around $13K with tax and shipping.


Tax? You're a university / government agency. You shouldn't have to pay tax. I'm not sure on the law in California but I didn't think that any state in the US charged tax on purchases for a university.

Anything purchased for end-use, i.e., not for resale, by any entity is liable for the state sales tax. Even if you purchase it from out of state from a vendor that legally isn't required to collect California Sales Tax and have it shipped into California it is still liable for sales tax. Technically, you are suppose to report the purchase to the California State Board of Equalization (isn't that a nice euphemism?) and pay the tax directly.

BTW, this is not just California. Most states have their sales tax (or use tax) laws written in a similar manner.

Yes, but the Regents of the University of California, Berkeley quasi-are the State of California. Not sure they owe sales/use tax to themselves.

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Message 1043415 - Posted: 21 Oct 2010, 0:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 1043368.  

At least in Colorado, any state based agency is tax exempt. Not much point in paying tax for something and have that tax revenue be the source of your budget in the first point. So I would think that any purchase by the guys would be tax exempt.
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Message 1043632 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 16:25:50 UTC - in response to Message 1043415.  

At least in Colorado, any state based agency is tax exempt. Not much point in paying tax for something and have that tax revenue be the source of your budget in the first point. So I would think that any purchase by the guys would be tax exempt.


Here in California, state agencies do pay state sales tax - and yes, it does seem circular! The idea was that the state agency's sales tax would get split up in the General Fund... AFAIK, only police, fire, and EMS services are totally exempt from sales tax...
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Message 1043642 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 17:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 1043632.  

At least in Colorado, any state based agency is tax exempt. Not much point in paying tax for something and have that tax revenue be the source of your budget in the first point. So I would think that any purchase by the guys would be tax exempt.


Here in California, state agencies do pay state sales tax - and yes, it does seem circular! The idea was that the state agency's sales tax would get split up in the General Fund... AFAIK, only police, fire, and EMS services are totally exempt from sales tax...

I think that's why the State perversely calls it the Board of Equalization.
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Message 1043694 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 19:08:57 UTC

Want the new specs............
One with SSD's, one without?

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Message 1043728 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 20:33:55 UTC

SSD's are a great source of mystery problems.. I do hope without.

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Message 1043809 - Posted: 23 Oct 2010, 1:03:51 UTC
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Let's not rush things!!!

Remember 'Murphy's Law'
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Message 1043852 - Posted: 23 Oct 2010, 3:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 1043642.  

At least in Colorado, any state based agency is tax exempt. Not much point in paying tax for something and have that tax revenue be the source of your budget in the first point. So I would think that any purchase by the guys would be tax exempt.


Here in California, state agencies do pay state sales tax - and yes, it does seem circular! The idea was that the state agency's sales tax would get split up in the General Fund... AFAIK, only police, fire, and EMS services are totally exempt from sales tax...

I think that's why the State perversely calls it the Board of Equalization.

So that's why It's called that.
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Message 1043855 - Posted: 23 Oct 2010, 4:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 1043728.  

SSD's are a great source of mystery problems.. I do hope without.

If they are spec'd and approved in the 'as supplied' configuration, I approve SSDs....
As I understand the in house warranty is 2 years.

So, if they don't perform correctly in that timeframe, we have recourse.


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Message 1043863 - Posted: 23 Oct 2010, 4:45:24 UTC - in response to Message 1043855.  

SSD's are a great source of mystery problems.. I do hope without.

If they are spec'd and approved in the 'as supplied' configuration, I approve SSDs....
As I understand the in house warranty is 2 years.

So, if they don't perform correctly in that timeframe, we have recourse.


I hope that they go with SATA;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Disadvantages

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Message 1069016 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 15:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 1068859.  
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Like this
SERVER.



Storform iServ R515.v2.1
High-capacity, low-cost storage

* 4U rackmount storage server
* 2 Intel® Xeon® Processors 5600 Series
* 12 DDR3 DIMM sockets
* 2 Integrated Gigabit Ethernet adapters
* Integrated IPMI with KVM over LAN
* 5 PCI expansion slots
* 24 hot-swap SAS / SATA drive bays
* 80 PLUS Gold Certified redundant power supply

The R515.v2.1 Storform Storage platform is readily expandable using our Storform JBOD products.

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Message 1070676 - Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 4:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 1069016.  

The text above approaches levels for me not to respond. Phuuw heew.

Please sirs, take it easy.

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