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Message 1035226 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 14:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 1035222.  

mine started working when I uninstalled the old drivers and installed the 10.7b



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Message 1035252 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 15:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 1035226.  

an actual full length WU Thats pretty fast. 95 minutes Woohoo


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Message 1035259 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 16:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1035252.  

an actual full length WU Thats pretty fast. 95 minutes Woohoo


What graphics card do you have?
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Message 1035261 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 16:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 1035259.  

xfx HD 5850 Black edition


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Message 1035337 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 20:00:27 UTC

@Raistmer,

On Monday I visited a news link with embedded auto-starting video, which crashed the driver of my videocard. Windows 7 detected the crash and restarted the driver. So far so good, but for that I monitor the GPU usage (load and temperature) through a gadget on my desktop. It showed that GPU load was zero and the temperature had dropped to the idle 35C, after the driver restart.

Checking in BOINC Manager, I saw that the OpenCL AP app was 'happily chugging away', yet that both Elapsed and to Completion times were going up. It wasn't doing anything other than that, though.

Now, I know that BOINC isn't monitoring what happens to the driver, since when the developers tried that a couple of revisions ago, the monitoring would crash the ATI driver until it hung. But then the question becomes, why doesn't your application realize it isn't using the GPU anymore? It should detect this and exit(0), so it can be restarted.

Did you add anything like that to the application?
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Message 1035343 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 20:14:56 UTC - in response to Message 1035337.  

But then the question becomes, why doesn't your application realize it isn't using the GPU anymore? It should detect this and exit(0), so it can be restarted.

Did you add anything like that to the application?

For app to detect that something is wrong with driver, OpenCL API call should return some error code. In current OpenCL ATi implementation nothing returned, current call just never returns and process starts to consume full CPU core.
In the past the same was with CUDA app after driver restart. There were some 3rd party tools developed to monitor GPU app CPU usage and kill the app then the CPU usage too high (and the app not at its startup time). Try to search for those tools.
About what app "should" - better tell this to ATi/AMD :)

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Message 1035347 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 20:32:19 UTC - in response to Message 1035343.  

I did check at the time through both Windows Task Manager and Resource Monitor what was being used. The OpenCL app was using zero CPU.
There were some 3rd party tools developed to monitor GPU app CPU usage and kill the app then the CPU usage too high (and the app not at its startup time). Try to search for those tools.

No thanks. I suspect that any external application exiting the openCL app can cause the task being worked on to go corrupt. Then it's always better to exit & restart BOINC.
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Message 1035358 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 21:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 1035343.  

On the lunatics site the ATI app is for 4000 and 5000 series cards

does this mean my humble 3850 is not supported or is it just suggested that 4000+ series cards are used?
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Message 1035362 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 21:15:06 UTC - in response to Message 1035358.  

does this mean my humble 3850 is not supported or is it just suggested that 4000+ series cards are used?

The first. The HD3850 does not have OpenCL support.
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Message 1035365 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 21:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 1035358.  

On the lunatics site the ATI app is for 4000 and 5000 series cards

does this mean my humble 3850 is not supported or is it just suggested that 4000+ series cards are used?


You can still use the Hybrid app, it's mostly a CPU app, with a bit of GPU acceleration.

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Message 1035385 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 22:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 1035358.  

On the lunatics site the ATI app is for 4000 and 5000 series cards

does this mean my humble 3850 is not supported or is it just suggested that 4000+ series cards are used?


Re-read release message. ATI GPUs starting from HD2xxx are suppported. There is different app for them. It has lower GPU usage than OpenCL one so not recommended for OpenCL-capable GPUs, but still can be used for 2xxx and 3xxx models.
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Message 1035390 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 22:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1035385.  

as this thread is about the new app that is what i was referring too

yes i was aware of the older app as have tried it before but the use of the gpu is so low its not making much difference to the run times as have a P4 with the agp ati card

so the new ati app is only for 4000 series and above

fine that's what i want to know
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Message 1035395 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 22:43:41 UTC - in response to Message 1035390.  
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as this thread is about the new app that is what i was referring too

yes i was aware of the older app as have tried it before but the use of the gpu is so low its not making much difference to the run times as have a P4 with the agp ati card

so the new ati app is only for 4000 series and above

fine that's what i want to know


The thread's title linked in the first post is:

ATI/AMD GPU-only and HYBRID GPU+CPU Optimized AstroPulse 5.06 (r449-r456) for Windows OS

If you read that post:

There are 3 different builds suitable for different types of ATI/AMD hardware.
1) OpenCL based application that can be used on HD4xxx/5xxx series of ATI GPUs.
2) OpenCL/Brook+ combo app that can be used on same GPU classes (HD4xxx/HD5xxx) but maybe provide different (better) performance/experience for some host setups
3) Brook+ GPU/CPU "hybrid" build - it suitable for older ATI GPUs and on-board chips starting from HD2xxx seria. It's update release for released before Hybrid AP rev393.

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Message 1038815 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 17:36:17 UTC - in response to Message 1032880.  
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использует ли клиент видеопамять? если да, то есть ли смысл ее разгонять (в милкивее и коллатце я разгоняю ГП и понижаю частоту видеопамяти)?

ЗЫ: блин чем можно мониторить загрузку видеопамяти в 2Д режиме?
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Message 1038831 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010, 18:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 1038815.  

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использует ли клиент видеопамять? если да, то есть ли смысл ее разгонять (в милкивее и коллатце я разгоняю ГП и понижаю частоту видеопамяти)?

ЗЫ: блин чем можно мониторить загрузку видеопамяти в 2Д режиме?

1) ДА, использует. Насчет разгона - надо пробовать, что будет лучше.
2) для АТИшных карточек - не знаю, для NV - GPU-Z показывает загрузку памяти и контроллера памяти.
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Message 1039698 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 17:35:06 UTC

I had a question about the "Hybrid" app since it seems to be the only one that would run on the 3870 in my one computer.

Is it like the Einstein@Home app in that it mainly runs on the CPU and will only use a small % of the GPU. Depending of course on how fast the CPU is.

The system in question for me has a Celron 420 (Like a stripped down C2D @ 1.6Ghz). So I'd like to know how much it would hold back the crunching before I switch it from MilkyWay.


Thanks!
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Message 1039713 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010, 17:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 1039698.  

I had a question about the "Hybrid" app since it seems to be the only one that would run on the 3870 in my one computer.

Is it like the Einstein@Home app in that it mainly runs on the CPU and will only use a small % of the GPU. Depending of course on how fast the CPU is.

The system in question for me has a Celron 420 (Like a stripped down C2D @ 1.6Ghz). So I'd like to know how much it would hold back the crunching before I switch it from MilkyWay.


Thanks!

You can use this AP build with MW, no need to "switch from MW" completely.
GPU used only in FFA part of whole algorithm for "hybrid" build.
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Message 1040113 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 5:26:39 UTC - in response to Message 1039713.  
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I finally got a validated result and I think my wingmen are going to be disappointed

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=658407398

apparently 11 hours worth of work is worth more than the 72 given. I have to assume that my GPU crunching killed the normal granted credit


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Message 1040126 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 6:39:07 UTC

Sorry Skil, that really sucks.
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Message 1040127 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010, 6:43:03 UTC - in response to Message 1040113.  

I finally got a validated result and I think my wingmen are going to be disappointed

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=658407398

apparently 11 hours worth of work is worth more than the 72 given. I have to assume that my GPU crunching killed the normal granted credit


Look at this
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=659352749
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