Free energy is acceptable under the laws that rule this universe.Look you know that you can't produce energy using a motor to power up a generator.Eternally going on and on and on.Friction is involved yata yata.Free energy is not possible.Now,free energy is not possible for one reason, it would make no sense.I believe it is possible,but i'm not sure if anyone has done it, or a close effect.I've heard of several shafts of sort,but i'm still not completely sure.Now, about the conspiracy thing -_-,yes there is one, since the government relies on gasoline to power up the Iraq war and many other crap.It would be horrid for economy if something was created that would not use any type of combustion fuel at all.So they make hybrid cars(NOT FULLY ELECTRICAL ONES) see ;)?If you were to buy a fully electrical one i'm sure the prices wouldn't be so eye appealing,economy...the worlds largest impediment.

Synyster and William,
I agree with both of you. Energy is not free as such, it must come from somewhere. So as long as we explain how the physics works, then free energy is fine.

We know about lots of perpetual motion machines that actually do work in reality. The Earth perpetually goes around the Sun, and its free. The Sun perpetually goes around the Milkyway and its free. If we spin a satellite in space, it will keep spinning perpetually until something draws mechanical energy off it. We can easily explain the physics of all of these perpetual motion machines.

Gravity is perpetually holding us to the surface of the earth, thats free too. If we can just crack how to block, control or reduce this gravity field. But i do think its possible. we will crack this eventually.

John.

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Gravity is perpetually holding us to the surface of the earth, thats free too. If we can just crack how to block, control or reduce this gravity field. But i do think its possible. we will crack this eventually.

John.
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I'm glad, cause this gravity is keeping us, with both feet, on the earth :)
Now I wouldn't drive a car, if no gravity holds us to the earth and one jump up
makes sure one ending up in the stratosphere........

(Some clocks, with a weight (gravity), make use of this fact.)

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We know about lots of perpetual motion machines that actually do work in reality. The Earth perpetually goes around the Sun, and its free. The Sun perpetually goes around the Milkyway and its free. If we spin a satellite in space, it will keep spinning perpetually until something draws mechanical energy off it. We can easily explain the physics of all of these perpetual motion machines.

John.

Hardly free. you need to expand your accounting a bit. It took energy to start the earth orbiting the sun, energy created by the exchange of potential energy (energy due to position) into kinetic energy (energy contained in a moving mass). Same with the satellite - it took energy to start it spinning. In both cases it will take more energy to change the orbits, or to change the spin. Also, in both cases the stored energy could be converted to another form, but the conversion process can never be perfect. Some energy would be lost. That is why the universe will probably end up as a cold dark place. (But not for many billions of years.)

The common definition of a perpetual motion machine is a machine that produces more energy than it consumes. Your examples neither produce nor consume energy while left in their "perpetual" state.

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In fact the earth is slowing down in its spin. Rivers flow towards the equator and carry silt and ton's of debris toward the equator which means that the center of mass of the earth is moving toward the equator and futher out from the axis of spin. Just like the ice skater who extends his arms--conservation of momentum will slow the spin.

In fact the earth is slowing down in its spin. Rivers flow towards the equator and carry silt and ton's of debris toward the equator which means that the center of mass of the earth is moving toward the equator and futher out from the axis of spin. Just like the ice skater who extends his arms--conservation of momentum will slow the spin.

The moon is also slowing the rotation of the Earth due to tidal drag.

Energy is merely converted, so as a consequence the Earth is warmed slightly (nope, not global warming!) and the moon is sped along in its orbit slightly faster.

A consequence of that is that the moon is climbing up the gravitational potential well to move further away from the Earth. This is accurately measured by laser ranging and is used to test/verify various theories.

A consequence of all that is that we are uniquely fortunate in the history of the Earth-Moon system to live in the one period where we can enjoy the spectacle of solar eclipses!


Keep searchin',
Martin

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See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

Just over a month ago Disclosure Project again wikileaked some stuffs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

So the point is these former army officers are not typical wandering people at the time and we should likely learn to trust them.

full version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

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Mandtugai!

18. Most importantly, Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project & Cseti has announced this year, 2010, that unless Obama brings all this black op stuff concerning aliens out into the public domain before the end of the year, he and his followers of scientists and military witnesses will do it, this time with incontrovertible proof, presented to a world stage.

Sorry did I miss his press conference?

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18. Most importantly, Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project & Cseti has announced this year, 2010, that unless Obama brings all this black op stuff concerning aliens out into the public domain before the end of the year, he and his followers of scientists and military witnesses will do it, this time with incontrovertible proof, presented to a world stage.

Sorry did I miss his press conference?

Nope, just another blowhard thinking that they can get what they believe to be the "truth" by making empty threats. It's time for people to stop believing in stories are start believing in facts verified by observable evidence.

I can't wait !!

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/extraterrestrials-now-live-among-us-china-and-u-s-a-newspapers-report
I guess we can stop crunching now!

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Did anyone read this?? Interesting.

alleged UFO sightings in Roswell, New Mexico.

One document, for example, pertains to Guy Hottel, a special agent in charge of the FBI's Washington Field Office, who sent a memo concerning flying saucers to the FBI's director in March 1950.

"An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico," according to the memo dated March 22, 1950. "They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.


"According to Mr. [redacted] informant, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controlling mechanism of the saucers. No further evaluation was attempted by SA [redacted] concerning the above."

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/05/fbi-unveils-vault-including-unseen-11-records/
FBI Unveils 'The Vault,' Including Unseen 9/11 Records

sounds like bad astronomy this UFO stuff, focus on real science

so the rudimentary radar we had back before 1950 caused an alien craft to crash. Sooooooo.... why arent they falling out of the sky every time someone answers a cell phone or an airport searches for planes coming in to land

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

It's a good thing not all of us believe everything we read.

I suppose all this non-sense is to be expected while we are a science project looking for alien intelligence.

No or yes???

Some of the documents released under Freedom of Information Act

Just because the Government took down a few notes from some people's unexplained experiences, doesn't mean the experiences are legitimate. The Government only wrote down what was said and released them.

Thanks. I figured that would be the case.

It's hard to believe some of these documents.

Here is another article.

On April 4, 1949, FBI agents in Utah sent a cable marked “urgent” to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. It said an Army guard at the Ogden Supply Depot, a Logan policeman and a Utah Highway Patrol officer in Mantua each saw from miles apart a UFO — which they said exploded over Utah.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51593226-90/fbi-utah-documents-vault.html.csp
New FBI ‘vault’ discusses Utah UFOs, other secrets

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