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Message 1032168 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 11:04:26 UTC

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Some recent news for you to chew on and defend:


Spare Quran, save Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani

A Florida pastor's plan to burn the Quran on the anniversary of 9/11 is a breathtakingly dumb idea. It's bad for the country. As Gen. David Petraeus warned, this illiterate's stunt could incite violence against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Pastor Terry Jones has argued that he enjoys a First Amendment right to burn the books. ...

... Jones explained his commitment to the pyrotechnics to ABC News. "If we don't do it, when do we stop backing down?"...



Iran opposition lawyer Nasrin Sotoudeh detained

A prominent human rights lawyer in Iran, Nasrin Sotoudeh, has been detained by the authorities.

She is accused of spreading propaganda and conspiring to harm state security, her lawyer has said.

Ms Sotoudeh has represented Iranian opposition activists and politicians, and prisoners sentenced to death for crimes committed when they were under the age of 18. ...




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Message 1032270 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 18:31:39 UTC

Matt appears to be strangely quiet on the real issues. Doesn't fit in with his jaundiced way of 'discussion'?


Two recent bits of news:


Nobel winner urges end to death by stoning for all Iranians

Nobel peace-winner Shirin Ebadi has called on world leaders to fight to end the practice of death by stoning in Iran. She says Sakineh Mohammadi-Ashtiani, the Iranian woman whose earlier death sentence by stoning caused international outcry, is not the only one facing this fate.

In Brussels to meet EU officials, Ebadi says she has little faith that Tehran would spare Mohammadi-Ashtiani despite a suspension of her death by lapidation sentence last July...

... if a 10-year-old girl perpetrates a crime she is sentenced in the same way as a 40-year-old man. That is why Iran has the highest number of juvenile executions in the world."

According to the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), which hosted the news conference, since 1999 through March 2009, at least 42 executions of juvenile offenders have been recorded in Iran. ...



European Parliament censures rights violations by Iranian regime

On Thursday, the European Parliament adopted a resolution condemning increasing human rights violations in Iran while calling for the annulment of execution sentences.

The resolution also denounced the arrest and imprisonment of political and civil rights activists, including Nasrin Sotoudeh, a human rights lawyer, and the continuation and growth of the number of execution sentences, including the barbaric death by stoning.

The European Parliament called for the prosecution and trial of those who have ordered or carried out rights violations in Iran...




Looks like Iran is offending many people except of course Matt...

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Message 1032315 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 21:33:40 UTC

It wouldn't surprise me if within the next 3-5 years we might see an invasion of Iran by the USA, like they did with Iraq. I hope not but I can't be 100% sure.

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Message 1032320 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 21:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 1032315.

It wouldn't surprise me if within the next 3-5 years we might see an invasion of Iran by the USA, like they did with Iraq. I hope not but I can't be 100% sure.

US Won't put its soldiers in a high radiation environment. Israel will have done the job by then.


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Message 1032343 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 23:03:32 UTC
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Meanwhile, is this all just part of the Iranian 'game'?


Iran to free one of three jailed US hikers

... Iran has announced that it will release one of the three American hikers it has held for more than a year and accused of espionage. Sarah Shourd, Shane Bauer and Joshua Fattal were arrested by the Iranian authorities while they were on a hiking trip in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq in July 2009. Iran has accused them of espionage and illegally crossing the border – charges that they, their families and supporters have categorically denied. The three hikers have not been formally charged with any crime. ...

... It is possible the move is intended to ease international pressure on the Islamic republic over the case of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, the woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery and murder – and the subject of a campaign that has clearly rattled the authorities. ...

... the three hikers may have been captured on the Iraqi side of the border, possibly to serve as bargaining chips in Iran's fraught relationship with the US. ...



Iran to Release Detained U.S. Hiker

BEIRUT, Lebanon — Iran plans to release Sarah Shourd, one of the three young American hikers detained and accused of spying last year, Iranian officials said Thursday. ...

... It is traditional in Iran to release prisoners as a gesture of clemency to mark the close of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, which ends this week. ...



And all added with some rather curious misinformation:

Iranian 'stoning' woman denies lashing

... Kazemzadeh said the condemned woman, a mother of two, told him that she continued to have weekly meetings with her family and children, Farideh and Sajjad.

On Monday, Sajjad said he had no contact with his mother since her August 11 televised "confession" in which she admitted having a hand in her husband's murder.

Sajjad has expressed fear that his mother would be executed after Ramadan, the Muslim holy fasting month which ends this week.

Iranian judiciary officials say that Mohammadi-Ashtiani has been sentenced to death by stoning for adultery. She has also received a 10-year jail term for participating in her husband's murder.

Several international governments and human rights bodies have denounced her stoning as barbaric, and some have even questioned whether she received a fair trial.



I would expect that Matt's bias is to accept that Kazemzadeh must be speaking the Truth of Allah... Strange how the rest of the world will read that article very differently to Matt...


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Message 1032462 - Posted: 10 Sep 2010, 8:54:12 UTC

Looks like a few skeletons are falling out of the cupboards... Now this is something that Matt should appreciate and sympathise with:


A tale of two women who were both denied justice

High-profile cases show Iran is not immune to international pressure, says Patrick Corrigan

Over recent months, Amnesty International has been highlighting the plight of two women sentenced to death in Iran.

Both of them have suffered incredible injustices, but their stories are actually very different.

While one of them has received a great deal of publicity, the other has failed to attract the attention her case deserves.

Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, a mother-of-two, was convicted of 'adultery while being married' and was sentenced to death by stoning. ...

... The second woman, Zeynab Jalalian, is a 27-year-old ethnic Kurdish political activist sentenced to death after being convicted of 'enmity against God'. Imprisoned in Tehran, her conviction stems from her alleged membership of a Kurdish armed opposition group.

She speaks of torture and sexual abuse whilst detained and was reportedly denied access to her lawyer during her trial. The Iranian authorities have remained intractable in her case...

... The fact is, in Iran the death penalty is increasingly used to crush any form of political dissent. Thus, Jalalian's case is far more emblematic of the government's pernicious abuse of power, and why the international outcry for her should be as loud as for Ashtiani. ...



Honour killings: the genocide that Muslims inflict on themselves

... The only possible good news to be wrung from the woman's horror is the fact that the case has united the whole of the civilized world -- including Europe's otherwise morally relativistic intellectuals -- in unanimous condemnation of Iran's Medieval theocracy. Even the most devout Euro-pacifist can only be horrified at the prospect of this regime possessing a nuclear weapon.

And yet Ashtiani is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to "honour killings" in Muslim societies. ...

... Not all of the killers, it should be emphasized, are Muslim: There are some Christians and Hindus in this mix. But the vast majority of killings take place in Muslim nations such as Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey...

... The grisly details change from case to case, but all are animated by the repugnant notion that women are disposable possessions that can be destroyed like a lame horse or a chipped plate.

As Fisk correctly notes, this view of women is not confined to Islam -- it typifies all backwards, heavily tribalized societies from Africa to Central Asia. But it is a particular problem in the Muslim world because the religion's foundational text, the Koran, is essentially a crystallization of the tribal practices and myths of militarily successful 7th-century Bedouin tribes -- and so, as in the case of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, it offers a veneer of religious legitimacy to misogynistic bloodletting. ...

... Speaking of which, I have a new Palestinian martyr to offer the world. Everyone already knows the names of Mohammed al-Dura and Rachel Corrie. But how about the 17-year-old Gaza girl who, in 2005, was...




Is the regime in Iran falling into poverty and desperate despotic ways in the same way as did Saddam Hussain with his regime in Iraq?...

Hopefully, the focused worldwide outcry for Ashtiani might improve the fate for others in Iran and elsewhere.


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Message 1032830 - Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 5:24:43 UTC - in response to Message 1032343.

Meanwhile, is this all just part of the Iranian 'game'?


Iran to free one of three jailed US hikers

[i]... Iran has announced that it will release one of the three American hikers it has held for more than a year and accused of espionage. Sarah Shourd, Shane Bauer and Joshua Fattal were arrested by the Iranian authorities while they were on a hiking trip in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq in July 2009. Iran has accused them of espionage and illegally crossing the border – charges that they, their families and supporters have categorically denied.it's ALL our world,
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" The three hikers have not been formally charged with any crime. ..."

quantamo, anyone?

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Message 1032958 - Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 16:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1032830.

Meanwhile, is this all just part of the Iranian 'game'?


Iran to free one of three jailed US hikers

[i]... Iran has announced that it will release one of the three American hikers it has held for more than a year and accused of espionage. Sarah Shourd, Shane Bauer and Joshua Fattal were arrested by the Iranian authorities while they were on a hiking trip in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq in July 2009. Iran has accused them of espionage and illegally crossing the border – charges that they, their families and supporters have categorically denied.it's ALL our world,
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" The three hikers have not been formally charged with any crime. ..."

quantamo, anyone?

Out of this WHOLE WORLD to hike...Why did they choose that place? Makes no sense to me and probably the same to Iran...Are we supposed to feel sorry for the next people hiking there?
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Message 1033380 - Posted: 17 Sep 2010, 0:01:55 UTC

Strange no comment from Matt?


Worldview: Moral bankruptcy in Iran

... Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad likes to boast about the superiority of Iranian moral values to those of the West.

So, a week before he traveled to the U.N. General Assembly, he sought to divert attention from Iran's dismal human rights record by intervening to free Sarah Shourd, one of three American hikers who had been jailed for 13 months in Tehran. He claimed this was a gesture of Islamic compassion due to her health problems.

But his gesture rings hollow given that Shourd's two companions - her fiance, Shane Bauer, and friend Josh Fattal of Elkins Park - remain in Evin Prison. Nor can Ahmadinejad's gesture hide the horrors perpetrated ...



Jews cannot be happy in Iran

... That only a quarter still remains is hardly a positive advertisement for the regime. Official anti-semitism and Holocaust denial is rampant.

There are many reasons why the remaining Jews do not leave Iran: compulsory military service is one.

Besides, it is not easy to uproot oneself and one's family from a country where Jews have lived for 3,000 years, especially the elderly. Although Jews can and do travel, they are said to be denied the multiple-exit permits normally issued to other citizens: in other words, members of the family are kept back as hostages. ...




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