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Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King
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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m05VSyHoQ4 I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
Glen Beck never said he was Martin Luther King or for that matter said he was perfect or knew all the answers. Instead of watching all the twisted facts, you should try watching the truth. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Please warn people before posting links to distastefull sites. I almost lost my stomach contents. I edited out of respect for a certain mod. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
The host has also said this event will "reclaim the civil rights movement" from the nation's progressives. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-deggans/the-frightening-prospect_b_696958.html I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
The host has also said this event will "reclaim the civil rights movement" from the nation's progressives. Glen is reclaiming America from the political groups and reclaiming freedom for all. If you read Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech, you will find King was asking for nothing more than the rights guaranteed to all Americans by the constitution. I was alive when King first made his speech and I know what America was like then, Almost all of kings goals have been obtained so clinging to the civil rights movement today is nothing but a way to obtain votes. Today the Civil Rights Movement has become a lobby group that is trying to obtain welfare and other money for blacks. The constitution gives you the freedom to be successful, it doesn't guarantee you will be and also doesn't say the government will take care of you if you are not. King understood this but many of the Civil Right people today don't. As normal, the Huffington post has twisted the truth. |
puggs Send message Joined: 25 Jul 04 Posts: 25 Credit: 1,104,199 RAC: 29 |
I've got to admit that when I think of the degradation of intelligence in America, imposed by Glenn Beck and his teachings......It makes me sad. But I always use this to cheer me up http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-18-2010/conservative-libertarian |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
The host has also said this event will "reclaim the civil rights movement" from the nation's progressives. claiming freedom for all and making sure it only works for a few is a sad mantra. Sell it somewhere else. Glenn becks freedom is for those who can afford it. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
The host has also said this event will "reclaim the civil rights movement" from the nation's progressives. Dena I'm 53 and I remember. The event was called "The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom." Here is the truth and your boy Glenn can eat it. Stop trying to revise history. http://www.blackpast.org/?q=aah/march-washington-jobs-and-freedom-august-28-1963 I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
The host has also said this event will "reclaim the civil rights movement" from the nation's progressives. It's very apparent that you didn't watch TV on saturday and have only been reading the liberal blog. Your prejudgement is much like what lead discrimination in the first place! |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Dena The wealthy buggers calling the shots and financing your teabagger movement should be the focus of your teabag anger. These are the same lifeforms that spend billions of dollars lobbying congress for concessions to the wealthy, corporate tax cuts and all of the other things that make life so sweet for the pampered elites. You, and your angry teabag friends, have been like lemmings. The elites give you several targets to focus your anger on while they hide in the shadows. This last new angle, where white folks are the oppressed is over the top. Isn't it strange that you have never mentioned your feelings of oppression before this idiot Beck started ranting about it? The corporate media, controlled by those same wealthy elites, have been filling your minds with visions of Jihad, fear of outsiders and danger in the streets. It's all a smoke screen to hide their own actions from public view. I cannot believe people like yourself eat this garbage up and ask for more. I've had enough of this moronic movement that seeks to fulfill the desire of the selfish elites to further the far right agenda that has lead to the current state of affairs, not just in America, but because of American corporate and financial power, throughout the world. I feel your time as a world leader is over. At no time in your history has America looked backward to the good old days. It's always been the far sighted, moving forward attitude that made America so attractive and powerful. You and your friends can stare at your navels while your country drifts into a dark age if you wish but the blame will lie with those of you who chose to allow the careless elites to do your thinking for you. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
At the risk of being off topic.. has anyone noticed that Glenn Beck is just a raving lunatic with a chaulk board? The movement for civil rights continues. Glenn Becks Napoleanic visions of leading the country in a new direction are baseless, his claims on civil rights "from progressives"(is this the new slam because liberal was getting beat to death?) is delusional at best. He shamed the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King and Lincoln in one day. And he does not have the decency to be ashamed of himself. Following Glenn beck to bring the country "closer to god" is like following BP to clean energy alternatives. Janice |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
At the risk of being off topic.. has anyone noticed that Glenn Beck is just a raving lunatic with a chaulk board? I believe that is the definition of entertainment. Get high ratings. Or did you make the mistake of thinking it was news? |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I wouldn't but some do. Some in this country can't distinguish an editorial from reporting. The commentary from news. Perhaps it'd be better for the FCC to force socalled News channels to place the word EDITORIAL over the faces of those giving them. that way we can be assured that the ignorant, if they can read, will know that they are being fed opinions and corporate double speak instead of facts In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
First off, it's the Tea Party, not Tea Bagging which is an obscene term that should get this thread band from the web site. Second, nothing political about the liberals or racist was said by Glen or the other speakers. You are trying to start a fight about something you know nothing about which is not uncommon about the left. I don't have the a link to the full 3 hours, but I do have a link to Glen's keynote speech, Educate yourself and see how you have been mislead by the left. Link to keynote. As a country, we have lost our way because we no longer elect moral people to lead us. When your leaders try to steal everything that isn't nailed down, your country will fail in short order. We are trying to return to a time when a persons word can be trusted and a leader will look out for your interest instead of their own. That has no political party and that's why Glen made no mention of the political process in his speech. You may not like morals but that is where it all starts. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
first off.. The offensive term was originally used in error by the tea party movement. It was hillarious and shows the intelligence behind the movement. Secondly the entire speech was a rather sad attempt to keep those that belonged on the steps that day away, one that anyone involved should be deeply ashamed of if they had any morality whatsoever. Thirdly we have well informed intelligence people leading the nation for once for the first time in ages. The country is heading in the right direction, towards(we are not there yet, the tea party is dragging its feet) towards an inclusive society "for the people, by the people, of the people". We are restoring our constitutional rights as we go along, which were virtually suspended under the previous administration. As I have been beat over the head with for decades, I can now say that which I found so offensive. "Love it or leave it." "He is the president. We HAVE to support the president." I can not say these things without a bit of tongue in cheek and a deep sense of irony, but I can say them. The fact is over half the country LIKES the way we are headed. We have a chance at some basic health care for all. We have a society moving back to having room for ALL the people. Not just the ones you agree with. You can spout "love thy neighbor" all you want, but until you can embrace those you disagree with as fully as those you do agree with, you are spouting jibberish. There is no open heart to only side with those who agree with you. Those in the same position as you. Liberals, Progressives.. are used as if they are slanderous. Do you oppose Liberty? Do you oppose progress? Is it not a bit amusing that these same people that are the only ones that want to "Conserve" as well? Educate yourself as far as what and why the speech was given. It was no accident on when and where it was scheduled. And it was a slap in the face to many good honest moral Americans. Just not the ones you happen to agree with. The content is Moot. A madmans ravings should not be given any credence, and anyone joining him should be shuned. Janice |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
first off.. The offensive term was originally used in error by the tea party movement. It was hillarious and shows the intelligence behind the movement. How can I tell that this was a great moment in history. To Glen Beck, it was a telephone call he received around 11pm after the event. He felt in was important to wake his wife and children to tell them the news. The Smithsonian Institution called and wanted what ever items he could provide from the event to add to their collection. You may not care about history but they do. You use the word progressive like they don't exist in the Republican party. The truth is they do exist and George Bush was one of them. A true conservative would not have done may of the things he did. Progressives held people without trial in World War One and World Two. It is not about political party but is instead about right and wrong and currently both parties have a very poor record in that area. Glen Beck didn't make the connection about the date of the speech. He wasn't told till long after the date was reserved about the connection to MLK. I am very well educated on what is going on and find it interesting how little others know. I have been learning about the history of the last century for a while now and have discovered there is another history that has never been taught in school. Anyone who knows it would understand the current political path is directly to communism, something I don't associate with liberty. In the nearly 60 year I have been alive I have seen the loss of may freedoms and with the current political direction I see the loss of may more. In the last two year, Congress has given up it's right to make laws to committees under the president. The Supreme Court no longer makes decision on the constitution but instead make decisions on political desire. This is not freedom but is instead a dictatorship and both political parties are responsible. You need to learn not about the Republican but about what this country has lost in the last 110 years. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
I am aware of what was lost. We have been fighting to protect the constitutional seperation of church and state. Struggling to protect our freedom of speech. Fighting for equality regardless of sex, race, sexual preferences, religion(or lack thereof). We fight to try to reclaim government by the people, not by the religions and corporations. I have lived a great deal of the last century. My parents most of the rest of it. I have seen what was done and why.. both right and wrong. I repeat, Glenn Beck is a madman, and deserves no notice. To say this is "towards communism" is a senseless rant inspired by faux news. The politization of the supreme court is a sad fact. It is currently badly balanced towards ultra conservatism. Overturning corporate limits on campaign spending is just one sign of many. Glenn Beck offers no answers and does not even address the true questions. But it is what I would expect from Faux. Nice publicity stunt. But the real news was down the road with the other rally. Janice |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
In case you haven't looked at the news in the last two year, we have bailed wall street and the car companies out, helped the unions by passing healthcare, helped the construction industry with the stimulus and helping Fanny May and Freddie Mac and the rest of us got stuck with the bill. This is not a government that helps the little guy but instead is out to help the big guys. Making new law is not the job of the supreme court but should be done by congress. The Supreme court's roll should be limited to ensuring the law conforms to the constitution instead of twisting the constitution to match the law. Conservative or liberal should never enter into the Supreme courts decisions. The Federal Registry was 90,000 pages long when Ronald Regain took office. When he left it had been reduced to 50,000 pages. It is currently up to around 80,000 pages with most of those pages coming from Progressives in the federal government. I don't call it providing freedom when you pass 30,000 laws that the people must follow but the federal government ignores. If you understand the definition of a Republic, then tell me what the difference is between our current government and a socialistic or communist government. We have a government that regulates almost every action we take today from what we drive to how we vacation. The government will control the doctor we see and through unions sometimes controls who we work for. They have planed a retirement where Social Security will not be funded and the money I would have saved for my self has been taxed away so I couldn't save it. As I said before, it is not a democrat or a republican thing, both did it and are still doing it. This was what the American revolution was about and why the tea party is attractive to so many people. The governments job is to prevent us from other countries and protect us from harm by others. It is not the job of the government to treat us by children and take care of all of our needs and protect us from bad decisions. I don't know about you, but I am an adult and able to make my own decisions as to what is right for me. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
lets not forget that Beck is getting ripped for so-called Christian beliefs. He is a Mormon and most Christians do not consider them to be Christian. read more here Seems funny that he's not even wanted by those he wishes to be included with In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
I will post more in depth later. But keep in mind the social security program could be considered "socialist." If you want no socialist elements to our government (and in my opinion neither pure capitalism nor pure communism works) then you want this program terminated as well? The unions were not the biggest beneficiaries of the health care program. The only benefit to union member is the no caps on benefits. The fact is hospitals, physicians and many other have been over inflating rates to the "insured" to help make up for those that lacked their own insurance. By rights medical rates SHOULD drop. I am not certain when or if they will on their own, which may require more government interference as the windfalls become apparent. But I do know many hard working people who have lost their insurance through no fault of their own and basically died as a result. To equate any social program to communism is not only unfair and unreasonable, it is also hypocritical. Having access to basic medical care for everyone(those that have surplus funds never had a problem obtaining the best, they still will not, and that level of care never will be available to most of US.) is only reasonable, good business to doctors. But we are wandering way off topic. Glenn Beck remains a nut job with a chaulk board and a napoleon complex. The man is delusional and anyone that listens to him or the rest of faux news ... should seriously consider therapy. Janice |
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