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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Seems the grass roots teabag movement isn't quite what the automatons thought they were buying into. http://exiledonline.com/teagagged-tea-party-protest-silenced-over-organizers-links-to-2008-drill-here-drill-now-astroturf-campaign/ I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/28/4770006-meet-david-koch-tea-party-funder I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Just one more and I'm off to sleep. In the morning, I shall drink coffee. ________________________________________________________________________________ Resurgence The intersection of race, culture, and politics David Koch Is Tea Party's Sugar Daddy Kris Broughton on August 25, 2010, 10:08 AM I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear†cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago. A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party, “The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It’s like they put the seeds in the ground. Then the rainstorm comes, and the frogs come out of the mud—and they’re our candidates!†Covert Operations – The New Yorker The Koch brothers substantial investments to make sure the Tea Party groups across the country flowered in a way that would draw maximum media attention to its efforts was no secret to me or to any of the leading political pundits and the news producers who script their shows. There has been enough verifiable information about these two power mad billionaires laying right out there in the open for years to make a week long television documentary chronicling the subversive nature of their political activism, but even now, after The New Yorker has opened the barn door, I doubt that you will see very much coverage of this story. Over the July 4th weekend, a summit called Texas Defending the American Dream took place in a chilly hotel ballroom in Austin. Though Koch freely promotes his philanthropic ventures, he did not attend the summit, and his name was not in evidence. And on this occasion the audience was roused not by a dance performance but by a series of speakers denouncing President Barack Obama. Peggy Venable, the organizer of the summit, warned that Administration officials “have a socialist vision for this country.†Five hundred people attended the summit, which served, in part, as a training session for Tea Party activists in Texas. An advertisement cast the event as a populist uprising against vested corporate power. “Today, the voices of average Americans are being drowned out by lobbyists and special interests,†it said. “But you can do something about it.†The pitch made no mention of its corporate funders. Covert Operations – The New Yorker To a Tea Party member reading the New Yorker article, it must be the equivalent of being pimp slapped. Because despite all of their protestations to the contrary, they will be back out on the streets next week, and the week after that, making noise for the TV cameras exactly the way rich men like the Koch brothers intended, the same way prostitutes get back on the stroll after they’ve taken a beating from their pimp. Americans for Prosperity, meanwhile, has announced that it will spend an additional forty-five million dollars before the midterm elections, in November. Although the group is legally prohibited from directly endorsing candidates, it nonetheless plans to target some fifty House races and half a dozen Senate races, staging rallies, organizing door-to-door canvassing, and running ads aimed at “educating voters about where candidates stand.†Covert Operations - The New Yorker It must be mind boggling to realize that your rallies wouldn't have half the attendance they do now if it wasn't for the professional organization, logistics, supplies and transportation that the very people you were railing against were actually making available to your troops. Charles Koch seems to have approached both business and politics with the deliberation of an engineer. “To bring about social change,†he told Doherty, requires “a strategy†that is “vertically and horizontally integrated,†spanning “from idea creation to policy development to education to grassroots organizations to lobbying to litigation to political action.†The project, he admitted, was extremely ambitious. “We have a radical philosophy,†he said. Covert Operations – The New Yorker On top of all of this, how bad must it feel, after spending the last few months trying to eradicate the appearance that your beloved Tea Party harbors racists, to come to find out that the sugar daddies who have provided aa substantial amount of the transportation and organization and logistical planning for your largest "grassroots events" are direct descendants of a bona fide founder of the John Birch Society? I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I believe it is. Teabaggers are the next generation of H Ross Perot fans. Nothing like a wealthy man claiming to speak for the populace when in reality he's just stirring up the angry white people so that he can get his way. The reality for the angry white people is that they will get nothing more for their racism and bigotry over Obama and Immigration than a big attaboy and foot to the ass as they are shown the door. The only real difference from Perot to this gaggle of tards is the lack of a Face to the front. Very clever of the Koch folks. They do learn from others mistakes. The reality of this fake grass roots organization is that its just another ploy for the wealthy to get more wealthy on the backs of those who think that they are over taxed when in reality we as a society are fairly taxed and in most cases undertaxed In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Is this thread for real? :-O *giggle* welcome to the inner workings of an American Hyper-conservative organization... Brought to you by the same people that brought you the "Moral Majority", Faux news(Fox News) Ronald Reagan, George Dubya Bush, The Iraq war, The same ones who used to say "love it or leave it" And now cringe when they hear the same saying. The same ones chanting "Drill baby drill". Seeing nothing even surprising in the article, I will presume it is accurate. "If you've seen one Redwood, you have seen them all"(then governor of California Ronald Reagan) Janice |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear†cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago. I'd say the New Yorker has nothing to be forgiven for, that "Politics of Fear" cover identified a thread in right-wing American thought. I heard of a poll last week that reported that there are more Americans today that believe Obama is a Muslim than did so when he was elected. This view has grown disproportionately amongst Republicans and especially amongst conservative Republicans. Given the rise of Islamophobia, as demonstrated by the recent protests against Islamic centers in New York City, Tennessee and elsewhere across the US, it's not a stretch to think that there's a strategy at work here. Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a terrorist or sympathizer. The New Yorker identified this smear and lampooned it on their cover, unfortunately it's still a feature of American thinking. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Point of order. Obama was raised as a Muslim. Had two Muslim Step Fathers and went to a Muslim School. Does that make him a Muslim ? I suppose not any more than I am still a Catholic. People might be excused from the label of total ignorance by making the Muslim connection. For the past twenty years he has attended a "Liberation Theology" church. So has he thrown off his earlier brainwashing inherent in all religious instruction and preaching? Probably so. has he adopted the new "Religion" of Payback Theology? --"by their fruits shall ye know them" Obama may not be a Muslim but I suspect he is a "payback time for the poor man", liberation theology, socialist. "Not that there is anything wrong with that" to quote Jerry Seinfeld. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear†cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago. belief in ignorance is still ignorance. So what if some red neck believes he's muslim. He says he's not so unless you see him kneeling on a rug facing Mecca there is no proof In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Point of order. Obama was not raised as a Muslim. His mother was a non-practicing Baptist/Methodist. His father was raised Muslim but is a confirmed Atheist before getting married to Obama's mother. Obama was raised in a non-religious household. Obama discovered Christianity in his adult life and has chosen that to be his views on life. |
puggs Send message Joined: 25 Jul 04 Posts: 25 Credit: 1,104,199 RAC: 29 |
Point of order. But wait... That's not what FAUX News tells me? Why would they lie? |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Point of order. Because they are a far right wing of the republican party? Except for Glen Beck, who is just plain INSANE. Janice |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Is this thread for real? :-O Of course it's for real. The republicans screwed the country and robbed the working people with their neocon policies and doctrines. The elites who finance the right wing know they were going to be dragged out into the streets unless they found a way to deflect blame from themselves so some of them financed this stupid tea bagger movement. Instead of getting angry at the super wealthy pigs who've done so much damage to America, the nonthinking crowd has been diverted to focussing their anger at the wrong targets. They blindly supported Bush/Cheney through all the lies leading to the Iraq war and now they are blindly supporting this idiotic tea bag thing. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear†cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago. True, and while not wanting to derail this thread, I just happen to agree with the sentiments of Art Spiegelman as reported here: But Art Spiegelman, the Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist and former New Yorker staffer, was baffled that much of the negative reaction to the cartoon was coming from Obama supporters on liberal blogs. and not with Robert Waite's view (sorry Robert, no offense intended). I did not find the cover of New Yorker offensive, I understood it to be satirizing "the distortions and misconceptions and prejudices about Obama", and I did not cancel my subscription. To my mind what is inexcusable is that those distortion/misconceptions/prejudices not only remain, but have become more prevalent amongst my fellow citizens. Not the New Yorker for assuming the US magazine reading public understands satire when they see it. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
I wasn't angered at the cover either bobby. That was just a small piece in the article and I believe the author was using it as an example of why the New Yorker would seem so willing to now expose the financial backing of the teabagger movement. I posted the article to show that this so-called simple little grass roots movement is in fact another tactic of the powerful elites to control public opinion. And the non-thinkers bought into it again. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp9852hq0W0 I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
This link speaks volumes as to the vague misty demands of the tea bagger cult. Also included is something I have said many times, the far right is moving toward fascism during these troubled times and it will be the will and hard determination of working people that ends the slide into darkness. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18677 I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Bill Mahr always has a way of getting the point across http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if88PgI-vfU I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65745 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear†cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago. I find It disturbing that the Koch brothers want to get rid of the US Government, Except as has been reported for Commerce purposes, Which sounds like No Military, No FBI, No CIA, No NSA, No USDA, No FCC, No IRS, No SSA(Social Security Administration), No Treasury Department, etc, etc. I mean most major projects here are funded with at least 80% of the money coming from the Federal Government with State and local money taking up the balance. Hopefully the FBI is investigating the Far Right Conspiracy since It has gone after 1st Clinton and then President Obama, Funded the formation of the Tea Party and other Atroturf(Phony Grassroots types like Crossroads on TV)... From what I remember of History, Before the US Constitution was made and signed, There were the Articles of Confederation and a very weak Federal Government and a Country that acted like 13 different countries instead of 1 Unified Country(The USA) that under the Constitution(I've read It) gives the Congress the power to do the Business of Government(the ability to make Legislation under Article 1), Unlike some who may have never read that and insist that the Constitution has to have wording in there to allow for all the parts of Government that currently exist and since the wording doesn't spell out this or that then It must be unconstitutional, the writer(Thomas Jefferson, Later President of the USA), As He wrote in there as much as could be wrote and part of that is Article 1 of the US Constitution(see above link and quote below), But being only a Man, He could only do so much, So He let Congress and the Future do what a rigid Constitution could not do, Be a Government, As a Constitution is not a Government, It has been Amended from time to time too, Now I'm no Constitutional Expert, But still those Who decry our Government sound too disingenuous to Me to be credible, Possibly crazy and yep Dangerous(Enemies Foreign and Domestic comes to Mind, Those words are in the Oath all Military Personnel and Government officials are sworn into office under), Yet except for the Super Rich, Most would never give up their Social Security or Medicare, But then their ignorance is appalling to Me and I just have a GED, I'm just well read over like 45 years... Article I, Section 1: Now the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution section #3 states: 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. I think the Governor of Texas needs to be reminded of His Oath of Office as Secession(Rebellion) is clearly forbidden now, Also the 14th was Ratified on 7/9/1868 after the US Civil War and as such is the Law of the land which We are obliged to Obey, Honor and Respect. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Teabaggers...feeling manipulated? If that's about basketball I'd say manipulated is an understatement. me@rescam.org |
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