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Message 1028560 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 7:02:53 UTC

Seems the grass roots teabag movement isn't quite what the automatons thought they were buying into.

http://exiledonline.com/teagagged-tea-party-protest-silenced-over-organizers-links-to-2008-drill-here-drill-now-astroturf-campaign/
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Message 1028561 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 7:15:51 UTC

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/28/4770006-meet-david-koch-tea-party-funder
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Message 1028562 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 7:23:41 UTC

Just one more and I'm off to sleep.
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I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear” cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago.



A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party, “The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It’s like they put the seeds in the ground. Then the rainstorm comes, and the frogs come out of the mud—and they’re our candidates!”

Covert Operations – The New Yorker



The Koch brothers substantial investments to make sure the Tea Party groups across the country flowered in a way that would draw maximum media attention to its efforts was no secret to me or to any of the leading political pundits and the news producers who script their shows. There has been enough verifiable information about these two power mad billionaires laying right out there in the open for years to make a week long television documentary chronicling the subversive nature of their political activism, but even now, after The New Yorker has opened the barn door, I doubt that you will see very much coverage of this story.



Over the July 4th weekend, a summit called Texas Defending the American Dream took place in a chilly hotel ballroom in Austin. Though Koch freely promotes his philanthropic ventures, he did not attend the summit, and his name was not in evidence. And on this occasion the audience was roused not by a dance performance but by a series of speakers denouncing President Barack Obama. Peggy Venable, the organizer of the summit, warned that Administration officials “have a socialist vision for this country.”

Five hundred people attended the summit, which served, in part, as a training session for Tea Party activists in Texas. An advertisement cast the event as a populist uprising against vested corporate power. “Today, the voices of average Americans are being drowned out by lobbyists and special interests,” it said. “But you can do something about it.” The pitch made no mention of its corporate funders.

Covert Operations – The New Yorker



To a Tea Party member reading the New Yorker article, it must be the equivalent of being pimp slapped. Because despite all of their protestations to the contrary, they will be back out on the streets next week, and the week after that, making noise for the TV cameras exactly the way rich men like the Koch brothers intended, the same way prostitutes get back on the stroll after they’ve taken a beating from their pimp.



Americans for Prosperity, meanwhile, has announced that it will spend an additional forty-five million dollars before the midterm elections, in November. Although the group is legally prohibited from directly endorsing candidates, it nonetheless plans to target some fifty House races and half a dozen Senate races, staging rallies, organizing door-to-door canvassing, and running ads aimed at “educating voters about where candidates stand.”

Covert Operations - The New Yorker



It must be mind boggling to realize that your rallies wouldn't have half the attendance they do now if it wasn't for the professional organization, logistics, supplies and transportation that the very people you were railing against were actually making available to your troops.



Charles Koch seems to have approached both business and politics with the deliberation of an engineer. “To bring about social change,” he told Doherty, requires “a strategy” that is “vertically and horizontally integrated,” spanning “from idea creation to policy development to education to grassroots organizations to lobbying to litigation to political action.” The project, he admitted, was extremely ambitious. “We have a radical philosophy,” he said.

Covert Operations – The New Yorker



On top of all of this, how bad must it feel, after spending the last few months trying to eradicate the appearance that your beloved Tea Party harbors racists, to come to find out that the sugar daddies who have provided aa substantial amount of the transportation and organization and logistical planning for your largest "grassroots events" are direct descendants of a bona fide founder of the John Birch Society?

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Message 1028626 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 13:59:57 UTC

Is this thread for real? :-O

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Message 1028641 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 14:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 1028626.

I believe it is. Teabaggers are the next generation of H Ross Perot fans. Nothing like a wealthy man claiming to speak for the populace when in reality he's just stirring up the angry white people so that he can get his way. The reality for the angry white people is that they will get nothing more for their racism and bigotry over Obama and Immigration than a big attaboy and foot to the ass as they are shown the door.

The only real difference from Perot to this gaggle of tards is the lack of a Face to the front. Very clever of the Koch folks. They do learn from others mistakes. The reality of this fake grass roots organization is that its just another ploy for the wealthy to get more wealthy on the backs of those who think that they are over taxed when in reality we as a society are fairly taxed and in most cases undertaxed
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Message 1028642 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 14:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 1028626.

Is this thread for real? :-O


*giggle* welcome to the inner workings of an American Hyper-conservative organization... Brought to you by the same people that brought you the "Moral Majority", Faux news(Fox News) Ronald Reagan, George Dubya Bush, The Iraq war,
The same ones who used to say "love it or leave it" And now cringe when they hear the same saying. The same ones chanting "Drill baby drill".

Seeing nothing even surprising in the article, I will presume it is accurate.

"If you've seen one Redwood, you have seen them all"(then governor of California Ronald Reagan)




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Message 1028686 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 17:20:10 UTC


Globalization, as defined by rich people like us, is a very nice thing... you are talking about the Internet, you are talking about cell phones, you are talking about computers. This doesn't affect two-thirds of the people of the world.

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Message 1028719 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 19:56:57 UTC - in response to Message 1028562.
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I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear” cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago.


I'd say the New Yorker has nothing to be forgiven for, that "Politics of Fear" cover identified a thread in right-wing American thought. I heard of a poll last week that reported that there are more Americans today that believe Obama is a Muslim than did so when he was elected. This view has grown disproportionately amongst Republicans and especially amongst conservative Republicans.

Given the rise of Islamophobia, as demonstrated by the recent protests against Islamic centers in New York City, Tennessee and elsewhere across the US, it's not a stretch to think that there's a strategy at work here. Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a terrorist or sympathizer. The New Yorker identified this smear and lampooned it on their cover, unfortunately it's still a feature of American thinking.
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Message 1028856 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 9:27:32 UTC

Point of order.

Obama was raised as a Muslim. Had two Muslim Step Fathers and went to a Muslim School. Does that make him a Muslim ? I suppose not any more than I am still a Catholic.
People might be excused from the label of total ignorance by making the Muslim connection.

For the past twenty years he has attended a "Liberation Theology" church. So has he thrown off his earlier brainwashing inherent in all religious instruction and preaching? Probably so.
has he adopted the new "Religion" of Payback Theology?

--"by their fruits shall ye know them"

Obama may not be a Muslim but I suspect he is a "payback time for the poor man", liberation theology, socialist.

"Not that there is anything wrong with that" to quote Jerry Seinfeld.

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Message 1028910 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 14:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 1028719.

I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear” cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago.


I'd say the New Yorker has nothing to be forgiven for, that "Politics of Fear" cover identified a thread in right-wing American thought. I heard of a poll last week that reported that there are more Americans today that believe Obama is a Muslim than did so when he was elected. This view has grown disproportionately amongst Republicans and especially amongst conservative Republicans.

Given the rise of Islamophobia, as demonstrated by the recent protests against Islamic centers in New York City, Tennessee and elsewhere across the US, it's not a stretch to think that there's a strategy at work here. Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a terrorist or sympathizer. The New Yorker identified this smear and lampooned it on their cover, unfortunately it's still a feature of American thinking.

belief in ignorance is still ignorance. So what if some red neck believes he's muslim. He says he's not so unless you see him kneeling on a rug facing Mecca there is no proof

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Message 1028914 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 15:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 1028856.

Point of order.

Obama was raised as a Muslim. Had two Muslim Step Fathers and went to a Muslim School. Does that make him a Muslim ? I suppose not any more than I am still a Catholic.
People might be excused from the label of total ignorance by making the Muslim connection.


Obama was not raised as a Muslim. His mother was a non-practicing Baptist/Methodist. His father was raised Muslim but is a confirmed Atheist before getting married to Obama's mother. Obama was raised in a non-religious household. Obama discovered Christianity in his adult life and has chosen that to be his views on life.

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Message 1029005 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 20:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 1028914.

Point of order.

Obama was raised as a Muslim. Had two Muslim Step Fathers and went to a Muslim School. Does that make him a Muslim ? I suppose not any more than I am still a Catholic.
People might be excused from the label of total ignorance by making the Muslim connection.


Obama was not raised as a Muslim. His mother was a non-practicing Baptist/Methodist. His father was raised Muslim but is a confirmed Atheist before getting married to Obama's mother. Obama was raised in a non-religious household. Obama discovered Christianity in his adult life and has chosen that to be his views on life.



But wait... That's not what FAUX News tells me? Why would they lie?
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Message 1029006 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 20:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 1029005.

Point of order.

Obama was raised as a Muslim. Had two Muslim Step Fathers and went to a Muslim School. Does that make him a Muslim ? I suppose not any more than I am still a Catholic.
People might be excused from the label of total ignorance by making the Muslim connection.


Obama was not raised as a Muslim. His mother was a non-practicing Baptist/Methodist. His father was raised Muslim but is a confirmed Atheist before getting married to Obama's mother. Obama was raised in a non-religious household. Obama discovered Christianity in his adult life and has chosen that to be his views on life.



But wait... That's not what FAUX News tells me? Why would they lie?


Because they are a far right wing of the republican party?

Except for Glen Beck, who is just plain INSANE.
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Message 1029613 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 5:20:16 UTC - in response to Message 1028626.
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Is this thread for real? :-O


Of course it's for real.
The republicans screwed the country and robbed the working people with their neocon policies and doctrines.
The elites who finance the right wing know they were going to be dragged out into the streets unless they found a way to deflect blame from themselves so some of them financed this stupid tea bagger movement.
Instead of getting angry at the super wealthy pigs who've done so much damage to America, the nonthinking crowd has been diverted to focussing their anger at the wrong targets.

They blindly supported Bush/Cheney through all the lies leading to the Iraq war and now they are blindly supporting this idiotic tea bag thing.
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Message 1029765 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 19:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 1028910.

I guess the New Yorker is still trying to redeem itself for the notorious “The Politics Of Fear” cartoon cover during the 2008 presidential primary that depicted Barack Obama in Muslim garb. "Covert Operations", an extensively researched article in this week’s magazine about the infamous Koch brothers and the hundreds of millions they have shoveled into political organizations, including big bucks to prop up the Tea Party brand, goes a long way towards making up for a transgression I saw as unforgivable two years ago.


I'd say the New Yorker has nothing to be forgiven for, that "Politics of Fear" cover identified a thread in right-wing American thought. I heard of a poll last week that reported that there are more Americans today that believe Obama is a Muslim than did so when he was elected. This view has grown disproportionately amongst Republicans and especially amongst conservative Republicans.

Given the rise of Islamophobia, as demonstrated by the recent protests against Islamic centers in New York City, Tennessee and elsewhere across the US, it's not a stretch to think that there's a strategy at work here. Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a terrorist or sympathizer. The New Yorker identified this smear and lampooned it on their cover, unfortunately it's still a feature of American thinking.

belief in ignorance is still ignorance. So what if some red neck believes he's muslim. He says he's not so unless you see him kneeling on a rug facing Mecca there is no proof


True, and while not wanting to derail this thread, I just happen to agree with the sentiments of Art Spiegelman as reported here:

But Art Spiegelman, the Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist and former New Yorker staffer, was baffled that much of the negative reaction to the cartoon was coming from Obama supporters on liberal blogs.

"They sound so elitist," Spiegelman told The Chronicle. "The essence of what they're saying is, 'I get it, but I don't trust the people in Kansas to get it.' But isn't that what the whole hope and change thing is supposed to be about? That they will get it."


and not with Robert Waite's view (sorry Robert, no offense intended). I did not find the cover of New Yorker offensive, I understood it to be satirizing "the distortions and misconceptions and prejudices about Obama", and I did not cancel my subscription. To my mind what is inexcusable is that those distortion/misconceptions/prejudices not only remain, but have become more prevalent amongst my fellow citizens. Not the New Yorker for assuming the US magazine reading public understands satire when they see it.
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Message 1029816 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 1:17:18 UTC - in response to Message 1029765.



I wasn't angered at the cover either bobby.
That was just a small piece in the article and I believe the author was using it as an example of why the New Yorker would seem so willing to now expose the financial backing of the teabagger movement.

I posted the article to show that this so-called simple little grass roots movement is in fact another tactic of the powerful elites to control public opinion.
And the non-thinkers bought into it again.


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Message 1029871 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 5:40:27 UTC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp9852hq0W0


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Message 1030146 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 6:11:07 UTC

I'm manipulating a cuppa of Ty-Phoo to my lips right now. Mmmmmm Tasty.

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Message 1030304 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 0:49:37 UTC

This link speaks volumes as to the vague misty demands of the tea bagger cult.

Also included is something I have said many times, the far right is moving toward fascism during these troubled times and it will be the will and hard determination of working people that ends the slide into darkness.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18677
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Message 1030918 - Posted: 4 Sep 2010, 17:58:13 UTC


Bill Mahr always has a way of getting the point across

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if88PgI-vfU
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