Why would NY Mayor meet with Arch-Bishop...

Message boards : Politics : Why would NY Mayor meet with Arch-Bishop...
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

AuthorMessage
Profile hiamps
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 May 99
Posts: 4292
Credit: 72,971,319
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1028103 - Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 14:12:01 UTC

To discuss if a Muslim religious center should be built in New York? Allowing another religion to weigh in on another religion seems absurd. If I were a Muslim I would be Angry. Why did it become such a big deal? Maybe they should make 911 area a Non-Religion zone.
Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!
ID: 1028103 · Report as offensive
puggs
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Jul 04
Posts: 25
Credit: 1,104,199
RAC: 29
United States
Message 1028131 - Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 16:24:55 UTC

You've got to remember, it's the FAUX News front that is pushing the anger in whitey......Even though the 1st amendment completely covers this issue, if you were to watch the Beckster or O'really you'd see the hate mongering in full force.

Even more, if somehow they were forced not to use that building, does that mean that ALL MUSLIMS are terrorists? Is that why certain Americans don't want them to use that building (CLOSE TO - NOT ON the 911 site as FAUX News has been pushing). When there are already two others in the same vicinity. What about the Muslims that died on 911 also, do they not count?

The degradation of American has alot to do with ratings/money driven news/media and this topic is no exception.
ID: 1028131 · Report as offensive
Profile soft^spirit
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 6497
Credit: 34,134,168
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1028140 - Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 17:34:54 UTC

The whole thing is silly. A Mosque that close to ground zero is in bad taste. Not uncommon for any religion to fall under that category. As far as the locating a Mosque there, it is a New York City zoning issue and nothing else.

This is the USA. A Mosque, a Jewish Temple, a Buddhist Temple, a Catholic Cathedral, and a Protestant Church can all go on the same block. You could fill in the extra space with a Candles/Incense and Crystals store. It just does not matter, and is not worthy of national attention.
Janice
ID: 1028140 · Report as offensive
Profile skildude
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 00
Posts: 9541
Credit: 50,759,529
RAC: 60
Yemen
Message 1028328 - Posted: 25 Aug 2010, 17:17:34 UTC - in response to Message 1028140.  

just an FYI Faux news has been pressing this as a "mosque" when its a community center, open to all peoples, that happens to have a mosque attached. Faux seems to always neglect to mention that little/big tidbit


In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope
ID: 1028328 · Report as offensive
bobby
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 22 Mar 02
Posts: 2866
Credit: 17,789,109
RAC: 3
United States
Message 1028739 - Posted: 26 Aug 2010, 21:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 1028103.  

Maybe they should make 911 area a Non-Religion zone.


I've heard that idea being raised by one of the Republican runners in the NYS Governor primaries, though I'm not sure that it's a very well considered one. There are historic churches/chapels closer to the former WTC site than the community center would be, including St. Paul's Chapel. Would designating the area as a Non-Religion zone mean that they would be demolished? It would be a shame to see that place go, as wiki says:

George Washington, along with members of the United States Congress, worshipped at St. Paul's Chapel on his Inauguration Day, on April 30, 1789.[5] Washington also attended services at St. Paul's during the two years New York City was the country's capital.


and:

After the attack on September 11, 2001, which led to the collapse of the twin towers of the World Trade Center, St. Paul's Chapel served as a place of rest and refuge for recovery workers at the WTC site.

For eight months, hundreds of volunteers worked 12 hour shifts around the clock, serving meals, making beds, counseling and praying with fire fighters, construction workers, police and others. Massage therapists, chiropractors, podiatrists and musicians also tended to their needs.


Tearing down this chapel to put a halt to a community center being built seems to me to be plucking out an eye to spite one's face.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

ID: 1028739 · Report as offensive
Profile hiamps
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 May 99
Posts: 4292
Credit: 72,971,319
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1028778 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 0:24:29 UTC - in response to Message 1028739.  

Maybe they should make 911 area a Non-Religion zone.


I've heard that idea being raised by one of the Republican runners in the NYS Governor primaries, though I'm not sure that it's a very well considered one. There are historic churches/chapels closer to the former WTC site than the community center would be, including St. Paul's Chapel. Would designating the area as a Non-Religion zone mean that they would be demolished? It would be a shame to see that place go, as wiki says:

George Washington, along with members of the United States Congress, worshipped at St. Paul's Chapel on his Inauguration Day, on April 30, 1789.[5] Washington also attended services at St. Paul's during the two years New York City was the country's capital.


and:

After the attack on September 11, 2001, which led to the collapse of the twin towers of the World Trade Center, St. Paul's Chapel served as a place of rest and refuge for recovery workers at the WTC site.

For eight months, hundreds of volunteers worked 12 hour shifts around the clock, serving meals, making beds, counseling and praying with fire fighters, construction workers, police and others. Massage therapists, chiropractors, podiatrists and musicians also tended to their needs.


Tearing down this chapel to put a halt to a community center being built seems to me to be plucking out an eye to spite one's face.

LOL I was joking, like something like that could ever happen here. To me it is all just Political wrangling of the SHEEPLE.
Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!
ID: 1028778 · Report as offensive
bobby
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 22 Mar 02
Posts: 2866
Credit: 17,789,109
RAC: 3
United States
Message 1028822 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 4:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 1028778.  
Last modified: 27 Aug 2010, 4:47:34 UTC

Maybe they should make 911 area a Non-Religion zone.


I've heard that idea being raised by one of the Republican runners in the NYS Governor primaries, though I'm not sure that it's a very well considered one. There are historic churches/chapels closer to the former WTC site than the community center would be, including St. Paul's Chapel. Would designating the area as a Non-Religion zone mean that they would be demolished? It would be a shame to see that place go, as wiki says:

George Washington, along with members of the United States Congress, worshipped at St. Paul's Chapel on his Inauguration Day, on April 30, 1789.[5] Washington also attended services at St. Paul's during the two years New York City was the country's capital.


and:

After the attack on September 11, 2001, which led to the collapse of the twin towers of the World Trade Center, St. Paul's Chapel served as a place of rest and refuge for recovery workers at the WTC site.

For eight months, hundreds of volunteers worked 12 hour shifts around the clock, serving meals, making beds, counseling and praying with fire fighters, construction workers, police and others. Massage therapists, chiropractors, podiatrists and musicians also tended to their needs.


Tearing down this chapel to put a halt to a community center being built seems to me to be plucking out an eye to spite one's face.

LOL I was joking, like something like that could ever happen here. To me it is all just Political wrangling of the SHEEPLE.


Cool, if only that candidate (Carl Paladino) were only joking. He's proposing using the powers of eminent domain to have the state purchase the land for the community center, but in order for that to be constitutional has to show that the purchase is not religiously biased. The means by which to show that? Make the area ("the immediate 9/11 debris field") a religious free zone. St Paul's was well within the debris field, i.e. his proposal would mean purchasing and leveling St Paul's. Like I said, not a well considered proposal.

I don't know the details of Bloomberg's meeting, though there was a proposal for a mosque to be built in Staten Island, this has fallen apart as the owners of the land (the Catholic Church) no longer wishes to make the sale. Maybe Bloomberg was asking the Arch-Bish to reconsider.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

ID: 1028822 · Report as offensive

Message boards : Politics : Why would NY Mayor meet with Arch-Bishop...


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.