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Message 1023664 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 13:30:59 UTC - in response to Message 1023657.  

Never thought to check that before but a check on just one machine came up with over 3000 ghosts. Should have thought to fix that on Friday, this machine ran dry just before the servers came back up.

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Message 1023665 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 13:33:49 UTC - in response to Message 1023663.  

Sorry, maybe it could be a translation misunderstanding..

If I go to my account overview with all links (URLs) in it for hosts, tasks, preferences and so on.
There is also the pending credit link (URL), right mouse click on it, DL the internet side to my HDD, then I can open/read the DLed file in WordPad. I guess it can't be shown in a browser.

I have now pending credit: 183,164.76 and it work normally.

I got the method Ok Sutaru, It just didn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Message 1023666 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 13:41:41 UTC - in response to Message 1023665.  

Ahh.. O.K. .. then I'm out of this thread/topic.. ;-)

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Message 1023668 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 13:47:44 UTC - in response to Message 1023664.  

The times I cleared my ghosts was on Friday mornings just after the project comes back up. Just set no new tasks, run down what you have left and detach/attach and redo your app_info. By then most of my work was done and I don't lose too much. It also gives me plenty of time to refill.

As for getting back on topic, right after the outage I jumped up to an all time high for me of ~40,000+ pendings. By the next day I was back down to ~25,000. I am now back up to over 30,000 though. Oh,and Questor, I have a bunch of your ghosts I'm waiting on and I think I've seen a couple from Todd too! :-)


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Message 1023673 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 14:01:26 UTC

Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.

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Message 1023685 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 14:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 1023673.  

Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.


very odd mine works fine.
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Message 1023689 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 14:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 1023685.  
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Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.


very odd mine works fine.

Mine always have. Seems it only affects those with a really large number of pendings.
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Message 1023690 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 14:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 1023689.  

Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.


very odd mine works fine.

Mine always have. Seems it only affects those with a really large number of pendings.


Yep, that's it. There seems to be some limit on when pendings get so large, the page times out before the data can be parsed. Mine are currently visible around 400,000, but I think the limit is somewhere around 700,000, but I could be wrong about that.

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Message 1023691 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 14:51:36 UTC - in response to Message 1023685.  


very odd mine works fine.



Not a miracle. Firehawks RAC of 160k RAC is 50 Times higher than yours
and so his Pending Credits will be also 50 Times higher than your Pending
Credits. Looks like there is a Limit on the Server of how many Pending Credits
can be shown...

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Message 1023705 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 15:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 1023690.  

Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.


very odd mine works fine.

Mine always have. Seems it only affects those with a really large number of pendings.


Yep, that's it. There seems to be some limit on when pendings get so large, the page times out before the data can be parsed. Mine are currently visible around 400,000, but I think the limit is somewhere around 700,000, but I could be wrong about that.

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perhaps they could create pages of say 100 Wu's to keep the size down and put in a next button, bet they never though pending would ever grow so large, but with the ghost problem its no wounder.
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Message 1023706 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 15:18:42 UTC
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In past with both machines 24/7 running, I had IIRC a peak at ~ 400,000 or ~ 450,000 pendings. And it could be displayed.

Hmm.. maybe a 500,000 limit? A nice round value.. X-D
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Message 1023707 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 15:19:51 UTC - in response to Message 1023690.  

Mine is not working now, like 90% of the time. Its very rare that it works. Nothing for months now.


very odd mine works fine.

Mine always have. Seems it only affects those with a really large number of pendings.


Yep, that's it. There seems to be some limit on when pendings get so large, the page times out before the data can be parsed. Mine are currently visible around 400,000, but I think the limit is somewhere around 700,000, but I could be wrong about that.

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I think your right Steve. I haven't seen mine for 3 weeks. It was 748,771 at the time.

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Message 1023710 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 15:23:10 UTC

I dont think its a matter of Credits instead the amount of outstanding valid WUs...

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Message 1023712 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 15:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 1023710.  
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I dont think its a matter of Credits instead the amount of outstanding valid WUs...

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Good point, I think you are right. The total shouldn't matter, just the number of units. It just turns out that due to the normal spread, it works out to a loose RAC of somewhere around some number.

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Message 1023718 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 16:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 1023617.  

This thread isn't about the value of the pending credits, it's about not being to access the pending credits web page.

Todd's post seems to confirm that there is a limit on the file size of the "pending credits" web page which for various reasons a growing number of us have now exceeded.

Mr Seegur, if you happen to read this thread, can you please confirm or deny this theory?

T.A.

Although I'm willing to look at BOINC source code, I have no competence in PHP or MYSQL stuff. I'll just say I see no evidence of an explicit limit in the code, so the idea of a timeout or some generic protection from an enumeration which is "too large" seems most likely to me.
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Message 1023758 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 19:00:52 UTC - in response to Message 1023668.  

The times I cleared my ghosts was on Friday mornings just after the project comes back up. Just set no new tasks, run down what you have left and detach/attach and redo your app_info. By then most of my work was done and I don't lose too much. It also gives me plenty of time to refill.

As for getting back on topic, right after the outage I jumped up to an all time high for me of ~40,000+ pendings. By the next day I was back down to ~25,000. I am now back up to over 30,000 though. Oh,and Questor, I have a bunch of your ghosts I'm waiting on and I think I've seen a couple from Todd too! :-)



Sorry you are waiting on my ghosts. The recent DCF ups and downs have meant I've ended up with way to many WUs after initially having too few. I'm therefore stuck with either keeping the ghost users waiting or if I drop my OK WUs setting a lot of other users back to another long wait for a new wingman. Devil - deep blue sea or sit on the fence ..........


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Message 1023766 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 19:23:16 UTC - in response to Message 1023758.  

I understand completely. I was stuck with waiting for a bunch of shorty ghosts to time out before clearing the rest or hitting them all at once. I finally waited since the others wouldn't time out until sometime in September. I have been kinda watching those I've cleared and it sure is good watching them get picked up and, in some cases finished, long before they would have timed out on my machine.


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Message 1023776 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 20:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 1023766.  

Isn't there a max number of lines an html page can have ? It's been years since I did something in HTML, so maybe someone else could check into that.

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Message 1023780 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 20:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1023776.  

Isn't there a max number of lines an html page can have ? It's been years since I did something in HTML, so maybe someone else could check into that.

No, there's no limit in the HTML RFC's. Perhaps some browsers have limits, it makes programming somewhat simpler if you don't have to deal with situations where part of the data is in the swap file. But I'd expect any of the major browsers to accept at least any file size which fits in memory. There's a largish single page FAQ at http://wwwcompass.cern.ch/compass/software/offline/NTCorner/NTFAQ-Savill/faqcomp/ntfaq_20JUL98.html which may serve as a partial test.
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Message 1023968 - Posted: 9 Aug 2010, 16:18:47 UTC - in response to Message 1023780.  
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Using the latest F.F. version and it displays pendings, fine.

Pending credit: 63,212.02 , BTW.

And the page Joe mentioned, in the post above, lots of usefull
info, as well.
Thanks Joe.

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