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Message 1015970 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 20:45:24 UTC - in response to Message 1015965.

I purposely didn't post Beta's Url, If anyone want to join Beta, all they need is enough Gumption to Google Seti Beta. ;-)

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Message 1015974 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 20:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 1015970.
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I purposely didn't post Beta's Url, If anyone want to join Beta, all they need is enough Gumption to Google Seti Beta. ;-)

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It work also with adding /beta to the SETI@home URL.
But IIRC, I got problems in past with this URL.

So for to be sure, I posted the correct SETI@home Beta Test (http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta) URL.

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Message 1015983 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 21:09:26 UTC

BTW.

Maybe also interesting Jeff. Since ~ 2 months.. 'unable to change project preferences'.

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Message 1015985 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 21:15:10 UTC - in response to Message 1015967.
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Never mind trying to connect to beta. We have a serious connectivity problem. If we don't get it fixed soon, I will put out a news item about it. This does not bode well for putting the main servers on line tomorrow.

I have it set now in my Boinc, let me know if you need me to test some GPU's for you.
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Message 1015995 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 21:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 1015967.

Never mind trying to connect to beta. We have a serious connectivity problem. If we don't get it fixed soon, I will put out a news item about it. This does not bode well for putting the main servers on line tomorrow.


Ohhh, I don't like the sound of that!!! Pick the biggest guy in the lab and send him down the hill to kick some IT behind!!! Even if it isn't their fault it will make you feel better! :-)

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Message 1016074 - Posted: 16 Jul 2010, 2:01:43 UTC

Okay, who kicked the Ethernet cable out from the router??? Or, possibly this has anything to do with the work toward the gigabit connection to campus???

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Message 1016116 - Posted: 16 Jul 2010, 4:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 1015967.

Never mind trying to connect to beta. We have a serious connectivity problem. If we don't get it fixed soon, I will put out a news item about it. This does not bode well for putting the main servers on line tomorrow.

Good to hear and not so good to hear, Thankfully Seti flooded Me with way more than I ever asked for, So I couldn't download If I tried.
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Message 1019948 - Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 3:16:41 UTC

Thank you for the change. Personally, I will be extremely happy when this goes mainstream. As it has likely been for others, it has been frustrating for me to see the VLAR WUs take approximately five times the GPU processing time for the same amount of credit.
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Message 1020008 - Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 7:24:34 UTC

As the 'WU limit in progress' was increased at Monday afternoon my time, my BOINC got .vlar endings WUs for the GPU.
On my system it don't work well here at SETI@home.

I have an app_info.xml file with 608 and cuda entries.
My BOINC have current 41 .vlar_0 and .vlar_1 WUs for GPU (So this are new ones).

At SETI@home Beta Test I have an app_info.xml file with 609 and cuda23 entries and there it worked well.

It can be that it don't work well with 608 and cuda entries in the app_info.xml file?

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Message 1020467 - Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 23:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 1020008.

As the 'WU limit in progress' was increased at Monday afternoon my time, my BOINC got .vlar endings WUs for the GPU.
On my system it don't work well here at SETI@home.

I have an app_info.xml file with 608 and cuda entries.
My BOINC have current 41 .vlar_0 and .vlar_1 WUs for GPU (So this are new ones).

At SETI@home Beta Test I have an app_info.xml file with 609 and cuda23 entries and there it worked well.

It can be that it don't work well with 608 and cuda entries in the app_info.xml file?

The change has not been implement at SETI main yet.
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Message 1020566 - Posted: 29 Jul 2010, 7:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 1020467.
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As the 'WU limit in progress' was increased at Monday afternoon my time, my BOINC got .vlar endings WUs for the GPU.
On my system it don't work well here at SETI@home.

I have an app_info.xml file with 608 and cuda entries.
My BOINC have current 41 .vlar_0 and .vlar_1 WUs for GPU (So this are new ones).

At SETI@home Beta Test I have an app_info.xml file with 609 and cuda23 entries and there it worked well.

It can be that it don't work well with 608 and cuda entries in the app_info.xml file?

The change has not been implement at SETI main yet.


Yes, it has. See Jeff's note here.

But due to a bad pass-down, it was disabled for a short-time by changes Dr. A had Matt make on Monday. It should be back in force now, but Matt said some WUs went out on Monday under the old system before he fixed the changes. That may be what happened to Sutaru. There will also be resends that were split under the old system, Jeff thought maybe for several months.

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Message 1025589 - Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 16:06:38 UTC

Just wondering if anyone has any idea of when GPUs will stop getting VLAR WUs (from the old system before the .vlar update). I am just wondering, as I keep checking and finding that several non-tagged VLAR WUs are still being sent to my GPU.

I'm patient to wait for the old WUs to go through their process, I just don't like not knowing if I can stop checking or not.
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Message 1025590 - Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 16:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 1025589.

Just wondering if anyone has any idea of when GPUs will stop getting VLAR WUs (from the old system before the .vlar update). I am just wondering, as I keep checking and finding that several non-tagged VLAR WUs are still being sent to my GPU.

I'm patient to wait for the old WUs to go through their process, I just don't like not knowing if I can stop checking or not.


That can take many many months, due to all resends that happens for various reasons.

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Message 1025645 - Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 18:21:16 UTC - in response to Message 1025589.

Just wondering if anyone has any idea of when GPUs will stop getting VLAR WUs (from the old system before the .vlar update). I am just wondering, as I keep checking and finding that several non-tagged VLAR WUs are still being sent to my GPU.

I'm patient to wait for the old WUs to go through their process, I just don't like not knowing if I can stop checking or not.


You would need to use Fred's BOINC Rescheduler tool for to protect your GPU for old re-sent VLAR WUs.

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Message 1025696 - Posted: 16 Aug 2010, 21:54:11 UTC

I never got third-party stuff to work properly, so I wrote my own program.

Okay, so we can't really know for sure. That's all I needed to know, thanks.
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Message 1025720 - Posted: 17 Aug 2010, 0:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 1025696.

I never got third-party stuff to work properly, so I wrote my own program.

Okay, so we can't really know for sure. That's all I needed to know, thanks.

There actually is a for sure cutoff based on the delay_bound which sets the deadline, and the limit on number of replications. The longest delay_bound in that range is 54.32 days, the max total replications are 10. The last unmarked VLAR work was produced accidentally Monday July 26 2010, so I make the date for absolute safety about January 21 2012.

Almost all VLARs have a delay_bound of 46.5 days and it's highly unlikely for more than 2 hosts to fail to complete and report the tasks, so by the end of the third deadline cycle on December 6 2010 I'd expect reissues of those unmarked VLARS to be negligibly few.
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