Panic Mode On (35) Server problems

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Miep Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 2412 Credit: 351,996 RAC: 0	Message 1012099 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 12:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1012091. I think we might be seeing the 'standard setup' machines which got synchronised by the extended outage. They were dry, reported, got work and now keep reporting every ~4.5h. They get new work, maxing out the bandwidth, depleting ready to send and that causes the splitters to fire up and refill. the 40M background we see is most likely forum readers on higher caches, where the 20 cap pushes them into one by one - spreading more evenly. Well, it's viable indeed, BUT AFAIK almost all back off intervals in BOINC are randomized around some mean time. Moreover, "crowd" hosts have definitely different performance. I don't think it's back-off, I think it's some internal 'report and fetch work every 4.5h' on the standard setup, that we don't see, because we don't run standard. That is, extended outage can be perfect synchronization event indeed, but after it synching should be lost. That is, in oscillations we should see spike blurring, but it re-creates its form and length pretty fine ~10 (or more?) iterations already. In "initial sync event" theory I don't understand why blurring absent... Yes, I've been wondering as well why we don't see damping. @ Sten-Arne 'Alte Unke' ;) Carola ------- I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages! ID: 1012099 ·

Miep Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 2412 Credit: 351,996 RAC: 0	Message 1012107 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 12:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 1012101. Last modified: 5 Jul 2010, 12:56:01 UTC @ Sten-Arne 'Alte Unke' ;) I can buy Alte, but Unke? Isn't that a little bit over the top eh? LOL I am sorry, I should have explained straight away :) Unke is a german species of toad. 'unken' the verb is to predict (mild) catastrophies, usually quite vague, therefore quite often creating self-fullfilling prophesies. Calling somebody 'Alte Unke' means that he/she keeps predicting misfortune and has an uncanny knack of being right about it. Also used retrospectively towards the person who said it was all going to go wrong. English similar probably 'you jinxed it'. Carola ------- I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages! ID: 1012107 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4	Message 1012108 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 12:55:36 UTC - in response to Message 1012098. LoL, and just after such nice theory was written my host recived AP task :) It's not resend, fresh new task with replication of 2, recived at bandwidth low plato time... That is, AP work fetch not blocked... theory crashed ;D It's probably because the number of Astropulse tasks the Schedular has in Normal operation is quite low, and takes quite a few requests to get any, but every 4 hours the mix changes for a little while, Claggy ID: 1012108 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1012114 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:15:08 UTC Last modified: 5 Jul 2010, 13:16:35 UTC I just checked my error page, and it seems I have a whole bunch that say Client Detached dated today. I didn't detach, and am still crunching some 34 remaining VLAR's on the CPU. Strange... Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1012114 ·

Helli_retiered Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Dec 99 Posts: 707 Credit: 108,785,585 RAC: 0	Message 1012116 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:21:34 UTC - in response to Message 1012114. Uuh! You lost about ~1,200 GPU Workunits Today on 6:13:32 UTC. That's heavy. How is this going? Any Idea? Your Rig crashed maybe? Helli A loooong time ago: First Credits after SETI@home Restart ID: 1012116 ·

Helli_retiered Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Dec 99 Posts: 707 Credit: 108,785,585 RAC: 0	Message 1012119 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 1012118. .... or maybe your cat jumped on your keyboard and detached. :-) LOL Or this way. :-) A loooong time ago: First Credits after SETI@home Restart ID: 1012119 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1012120 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 1012116. Uuh! You lost about ~1,200 GPU Workunits Today on 6:13:32 UTC. That's heavy. How is this going? Any Idea? Your Rig crashed maybe? Helli I have no idea. Everything seems to be working fine. I didn't even know I had those tasks. They weren't showing up in BOINC. Perhaps it was from a week ago, when I was installing a Lunatics build and forgot an underscore. All my GPU units vanished. Oops! Maybe now they are just showing up. The strange thing is that a lot of the units are from the CPU as well. I don't even have a guess on that one. Maybe I just dumped a bunch of ghosts?? Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1012120 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1012121 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:35:22 UTC The only thing I can see for messages is that I have more than the alotted 20, so I can't download. I'm beginning to think I my have to do a real detach to clear things out before the gates fly open. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1012121 ·

Helli_retiered Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Dec 99 Posts: 707 Credit: 108,785,585 RAC: 0	Message 1012123 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:43:49 UTC - in response to Message 1012120. Last modified: 5 Jul 2010, 13:48:54 UTC Maybe those detached Workunits are really Ghosts because your GPU Quota isn't affected. Currently 450. Edit: I'm not sure if detaching resets Quota... A loooong time ago: First Credits after SETI@home Restart ID: 1012123 ·

Miep Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 2412 Credit: 351,996 RAC: 0	Message 1012124 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 13:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 1012121. There's another complaint about that : Client detached? Does a client detach count as an error that kills your quota? If it's just removing ghosts it's probably more cosmetics. What happens if you try to report a WU that was marked as detached? Carola ------- I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages! ID: 1012124 ·

Space Cowboy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Apr 00 Posts: 43 Credit: 1,730,621 RAC: 0	Message 1012139 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:11:43 UTC - in response to Message 1011896. Last modified: 5 Jul 2010, 14:15:11 UTC Maybe we found E.T. ID: 1012139 ·

Hellsheep Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Sep 08 Posts: 428 Credit: 784,780 RAC: 0	Message 1012140 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:12:59 UTC - in response to Message 1012139. Maybe we found E.T. That'd make the hardcore crunchers and farmers cry. No more farms and crunching GPU work for them. :P - Jarryd ID: 1012140 ·

Space Cowboy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Apr 00 Posts: 43 Credit: 1,730,621 RAC: 0	Message 1012145 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:18:24 UTC Anyone having trouble downloading AP WU's - I ve got one stuck with the following message : 05/07/2010 15:13:19 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of ap_03no09ae_B5_P0_00123_20100704_10738.wu: HTTP error Just keeps backing of and then trying again - been doing this for some 15 mins now ID: 1012145 ·

Helli_retiered Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Dec 99 Posts: 707 Credit: 108,785,585 RAC: 0	Message 1012147 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 1012140. Last modified: 5 Jul 2010, 14:21:21 UTC Maybe we found E.T. That'd make the hardcore crunchers and farmers cry. No more farms and crunching GPU work for them. :P Waaah! What a horrorable News! All those fine Rigs useless! Don't paint the Devil on the Wall!. LOL ;-) A loooong time ago: First Credits after SETI@home Restart ID: 1012147 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1012154 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 1012145. Anyone having trouble downloading AP WU's - I ve got one stuck with the following message : 05/07/2010 15:13:19 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of ap_03no09ae_B5_P0_00123_20100704_10738.wu: HTTP error Just keeps backing of and then trying again - been doing this for some 15 mins now The cap on downloads was just lifted, and the servers are gonna get pounded steady as long as they can stay online. HTTP errors are not uncommon when the servers are running flat out. Just let it keep retrying and it will download eventually. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 1012154 ·

Hellsheep Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Sep 08 Posts: 428 Credit: 784,780 RAC: 0	Message 1012157 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 1012154. Anyone having trouble downloading AP WU's - I ve got one stuck with the following message : 05/07/2010 15:13:19 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of ap_03no09ae_B5_P0_00123_20100704_10738.wu: HTTP error Just keeps backing of and then trying again - been doing this for some 15 mins now The cap on downloads was just lifted, and the servers are gonna get pounded steady as long as they can stay online. HTTP errors are not uncommon when the servers are running flat out. Just let it keep retrying and it will download eventually. That's true. I've been downloading 8 AP tasks for a bit now. FOR SO LONG they have been hard to get, now i get 8 in one cache.. P.S. I finished that tool kitty man. Check the other thread :D - Jarryd ID: 1012157 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1012158 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:26:33 UTC Well, I detached and reattached, reloaded the apps and the server says Project has no work available. Rats. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1012158 ·

Space Cowboy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Apr 00 Posts: 43 Credit: 1,730,621 RAC: 0	Message 1012159 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1012154. Anyone having trouble downloading AP WU's - I ve got one stuck with the following message : 05/07/2010 15:13:19 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of ap_03no09ae_B5_P0_00123_20100704_10738.wu: HTTP error Just keeps backing of and then trying again - been doing this for some 15 mins now The cap on downloads was just lifted, and the servers are gonna get pounded steady as long as they can stay online. HTTP errors are not uncommon when the servers are running flat out. Just let it keep retrying and it will download eventually. Here we go again then.... ID: 1012159 ·

Helli_retiered Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Dec 99 Posts: 707 Credit: 108,785,585 RAC: 0	Message 1012161 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:29:08 UTC Well, no Workunits for me now because of HTTP Error. Maybe in a few Hours when the Storm is gone. ;-) Helli A loooong time ago: First Credits after SETI@home Restart ID: 1012161 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1012162 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 14:29:26 UTC - in response to Message 1012157. Anyone having trouble downloading AP WU's - I ve got one stuck with the following message : 05/07/2010 15:13:19 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of ap_03no09ae_B5_P0_00123_20100704_10738.wu: HTTP error Just keeps backing of and then trying again - been doing this for some 15 mins now The cap on downloads was just lifted, and the servers are gonna get pounded steady as long as they can stay online. HTTP errors are not uncommon when the servers are running flat out. Just let it keep retrying and it will download eventually. That's true. I've been downloading 8 AP tasks for a bit now. FOR SO LONG they have been hard to get, now i get 8 in one cache.. P.S. I finished that tool kitty man. Check the other thread :D Will do! "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 1012162 ·

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