But My point was those civilizations, the ancient ones, just seem to have up and left. Why go through so much trouble to build massive pyramids and temples etc, only to just abandon them?

The ancient civs didn't totally leave, they simply regressed, dispersed, or were invaded. However, I don't think these cultures randomly made up legends. When they wrote that "the gods" came from heaven and taught them to write or to farm, they meant it literally. It's a lot of work chiseling text (especially when life was already hard) so why write down nonsense?

Regarding the Hills and the star map, I'm not too impressed by hypnotic regression, and their conscious memories didn't reveal much. Bits of her story don't make sense, like the abductors didn't understand the idea of aging. Even if they had overcome aging and death, that only shows that they totally understand the concept.

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Cortez was hailed as a god by the people he later conquered and slew by the hundreds. That's how ignorant, gullible and illogical these people were. Their Gods demanded the sacrifice of hundreds of Virgins at a time. I am not making fun in recounting this, But, I think its correct to say that these people were delusional--there were no such gods. There were thousands of these people; therefore, mass delusion is and was quite possible then and now.


Evidence is strong that the Aztecs, Incas etc were either Egyptian or taught by Egyptians. Their hieroglyphs, engineering, mathematics and knowledge of astronomy were too similar to have been a coincidence. --See: Thor Heyerdahl and read Kon-Tiki .

Evidence is strong that the Aztecs, Incas etc were either Egyptian or taught by Egyptians. Their hieroglyphs, engineering, mathematics and knowledge of astronomy were too similar to have been a coincidence. --See: Thor Heyerdahl and read Kon-Tiki .

All this is doubtful. Heyerdahl was not a scientist. I have a book on Peru by archaeologist Federico Kaufffmann Doig, nominated "Amauta" by the Peruvian Government and he does not even mention this hypothesis.
Tullio

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But My point was those civilizations, the ancient ones, just seem to have up and left. Why go through so much trouble to build massive pyramids and temples etc, only to just abandon them?

The ancient civs didn't totally leave, they simply regressed, dispersed, or were invaded. However, I don't think these cultures randomly made up legends. When they wrote that "the gods" came from heaven and taught them to write or to farm, they meant it literally. It's a lot of work chiseling text (especially when life was already hard) so why write down nonsense?

Regarding the Hills and the star map, I'm not too impressed by hypnotic regression, and their conscious memories didn't reveal much. Bits of her story don't make sense, like the abductors didn't understand the idea of aging. Even if they had overcome aging and death, that only shows that they totally understand the concept.

Even during invasions, civilizations were not and to this day have never been totally wiped out. To just abandon something that took them hundreds of years to build makes absolutely no sense. What bothers me: its seen everywhere. Incas, Mayans, Aztecs, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans...the list can go on to include places in Iraq and China etc. That would also boil down to carving words or pictures into stone. And not just a tablet here or there. They did this on nearly all their structures and temples. Not to mention that a lot of the technology we know today, should not have existed back then to build all these things. And if we want to speculate more, where did all that stone come from to build all those structures in the first place? Not to mention the time it took to haul all of it around.

Note: I am not saying I believe the Hills story. But to discount all the abductions and sightings as a mass hallucination or delusion is just ridiculous. Of course very little of these sighting...and I mean very little can even be remotely be considered legit. When I say legit, I mean as many as I can count on one hand...if that.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

Even the now defunct USAF "OPERATION BLUEBOOK" had sightings the USAF could not explain and even some reports were covered up it was said ro be the flag of nonsense. Even Dr. Josef Allen Hynek who was a skeptic at first changed his mind when he started to investigate UFO's.

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Tullio et al,

Thor Heyerdahl proved that it was possible to cross the Atlantic from Egypt to south America on a primative craft.

This supported the possiblity that the advanced south American civilizations could have origins in Egypt. The evidence for this possibilty lies in their Astronomy, Hieroglyphs, Mathematics and Engineering feats. These peoples thought that the conquering Spaniards were gods.

It was also a chore to record legends in scripture as well--yet we have the whole panalpy of myth as written in the Bible. Because something was written does not make it necessarily so. I would like to know if Atlantis and the Trojan war took place--I don't think so, but we can't seem to nail these down very well either.

Yes there are sightings of UFO's that were un-explained. But that's the point --UNEXPLAINED --not confirming alien craft.

Troy was excavated many times after its discovery by Heinrich Schliemann and all excavations give ample evidence supporting the Homer poems. The Atlantis legend is very likely connected to a huge volcanic eruption in the isle of Thera (Santorini) around 1450 b.C. The city of Akrotiri was covered with ash and has been excavated in recent times, uncovering beautiful frescoes. As I wrote before, no South American archaeologist even mentions the Egyptian hypothesis.
Tullio

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Artefacts discovered in North America are evidence of humans crossing the Atlantic from Europe during the Ice Age. Probably they kayaked, hugging the edge of the ice sheet.

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The Vikings had substantial ships and so did the Phoenicians. Both were excellent sailors and may well have visited North America and other places in the "New World" as well.