So, what the heck is wrong here?

Message boards : Number crunching : So, what the heck is wrong here?

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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2689 Credit: 7,751,975 RAC: 25,154	Message 1011291 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 16:37:15 UTC
	Download is botched, the forum is slow, often it times out, pages can't be seen. Then a few minutes later it works again, and then it can't be reached, times out.... SETI main page often can't be reached, server status page can't be reached. "Your account" can't be reached or loads really slow. Bandwidth utilization extremely poor too.... The chance that people will replenish their caches before the next outage, is IMO now 0%, zero%. You don't even need to try, it's useless. Had it worked as it should when the system came online yesterday, there might have been a chance, but not now. Especially not after the nightly crash of the database, which took a few hours to come back from. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3370 Credit: 25,964,091 RAC: 2,067	Message 1011292 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 16:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 1011291. Last modified: 3 Jul 2010, 17:00:11 UTC
	The chance that people will replenish their caches before the next outage, is IMO now 0%, zero%. You don't even need to try, it's useless. My Laptop managed to almost replenish it's cache, now got a grand total of 30 Astropulse Wu's, enough for about 8 to 10 days, Claggy
	ID: 1011292 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,521,346 RAC: 7,682	Message 1011296 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 17:23:21 UTC
	limit back down to 20, if it is up.. math still bad enough that 1 days work is showing up as 6 days worth.. It seems we are still in the alpha test loop. ____________ Janice
	ID: 1011296 ·

[B^S] madmac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Feb 04 Posts: 1102 Credit: 2,511,591 RAC: 1,558	Message 1011297 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 17:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 1011291.
	Download is botched, the forum is slow, often it times out, pages can't be seen. Then a few minutes later it works again, and then it can't be reached, times out.... SETI main page often can't be reached, server status page can't be reached. "Your account" can't be reached or loads really slow. Bandwidth utilization extremely poor too.... The chance that people will replenish their caches before the next outage, is IMO now 0%, zero%. You don't even need to try, it's useless. Had it worked as it should when the system came online yesterday, there might have been a chance, but not now. Especially not after the nightly crash of the database, which took a few hours to come back from. I too have had this problem, the chances of me replenishing my cache is 0% as I am getting the new message and only getting 1 days WUS ____________
	ID: 1011297 ·

Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22834 Credit: 4,532,519 RAC: 5,711	Message 1011311 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 18:26:13 UTC
	So, what the heck is wrong here? Lemme tell you ... You have a bunch of dedicated scientists working their butts off, on the biggest distributed computing project the world has ever known, having to deal with a shoestring budget, and firefighting trying to keep outdated kit up and running. QED ____________ Damsel Rescuer, Kitty Patron, Raccoon Friend, Uli Fan, Julie Supporter, ES99 Admirer, PETA Member, 1st Childhood
	ID: 1011311 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34244 Credit: 345,836,076 RAC: 551,811	Message 1011313 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 18:29:50 UTC
	Please see Jeff's post in the News forum. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1011313 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2689 Credit: 7,751,975 RAC: 25,154	Message 1011326 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 19:03:07 UTC - in response to Message 1011313.
	Please see Jeff's post in the News forum. yeah, I've read that. However, that does not explain the slow network we've had for some hours, since the utilization wasn't even near max. It's still a strange network, with times of almost impossibility to connect to the web pages. But since only half of the max bandwidth is uses, the limit on tasks in progress could very well be raised. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
	ID: 1011326 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34244 Credit: 345,836,076 RAC: 551,811	Message 1011329 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 19:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1011326.
	Please see Jeff's post in the News forum. yeah, I've read that. However, that does not explain the slow network we've had for some hours, since the utilization wasn't even near max. It's still a strange network, with times of almost impossibility to connect to the web pages. But since only half of the max bandwidth is uses, the limit on tasks in progress could very well be raised. Yeah, I dunno what the bandwidth problem and forum stalls are all about. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1011329 ·

Hellsheep Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Sep 08 Posts: 428 Credit: 784,311 RAC: 0	Message 1011334 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 19:40:39 UTC
	I have a bit of a background with web servers and things like that. I've seen these types of issues with web sites when databases/database servers crash or become corrupted. I'm thinking the crash has caused some underlying issues to arise now and the issue is related to the database server not being fully functional and not correctly serving the data being requested. The replica database still seems to be offline too. ____________ - Jarryd
	ID: 1011334 ·

Francesco Forti Send message Joined: 24 May 00 Posts: 267 Credit: 115,779,200 RAC: 93,357	Message 1011354 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 20:57:03 UTC
	By my opinion the actual limit of 20 task in progress is in contradiction with the new schedule (3 days of blackout). There is no meaning. I hope that ET, if he is looking for us, can have a better organization and equipment. I know thak boys in SETI's house do their best but the situation now is seems like some SNAFU. Bye, Franz ____________
	ID: 1011354 ·

Bearcat Send message Joined: 10 Sep 99 Posts: 106 Credit: 10,778,506 RAC: 0	Message 1011412 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 23:32:01 UTC - in response to Message 1011354.
	I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. ____________
	ID: 1011412 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34244 Credit: 345,836,076 RAC: 551,811	Message 1011414 - Posted: 3 Jul 2010, 23:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1011412.
	I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. Stop back and try again on Monday....supposedly Jeff is going to try taking the 'in progress' limit off Monday morning. The broken quota thingy might still play into it, and of course nobody knows if the servers will stay glued together under the onslaught. But give it a shot, eh? ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1011414 ·

James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6051 Credit: 14,705,283 RAC: 17,405	Message 1011433 - Posted: 4 Jul 2010, 0:11:25 UTC
	I will ride out the storm. I had set my cache for 3 days but noway will I get that. The P4 only has 3 WU's the mac has a lot only because milkway and seti fight over run times. This i7 has 20. So i will let all run untill the next outage. when they run out they get shutdown. Then on Friday i will cut my cache back down to the .75 day I had before all this mess started. No Im not complaining, No Im not quitting. When i get work I will crunch it,when I have none, I will save money on my electric bill. Thats my opinion, you know what they say about that:) ____________
	ID: 1011433 ·

cavemanmoron Send message Joined: 20 Dec 00 Posts: 15 Credit: 90,680 RAC: 0	Message 1011886 - Posted: 4 Jul 2010, 23:25:21 UTC - in response to Message 1011414.
	I agree, I am tired of the b/s. We need more money, we need more people crunching, now its OOPS there are too many people crunching. :( KMA Now after I check my email, etc; I will turn off the computer and save money, due to less electric being used. :) cavemanmoron Lee I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. Stop back and try again on Monday....supposedly Jeff is going to try taking the 'in progress' limit off Monday morning. The broken quota thingy might still play into it, and of course nobody knows if the servers will stay glued together under the onslaught. But give it a shot, eh? ____________
	ID: 1011886 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,652,095 RAC: 28,399	Message 1011890 - Posted: 4 Jul 2010, 23:48:33 UTC - in response to Message 1011412.
	I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. Barring an outage...I have a few machines that have 20 and report 1 and get 1 more...Won't work well for my i7 but my smaller machines are running. ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
	ID: 1011890 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,521,346 RAC: 7,682	Message 1011895 - Posted: 4 Jul 2010, 23:57:55 UTC - in response to Message 1011890.
	I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. Barring an outage...I have a few machines that have 20 and report 1 and get 1 more...Won't work well for my i7 but my smaller machines are running. Hiamps, are you still having to choose between CPU OR GPU? or can you keep them both crunching? ____________ Janice
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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,652,095 RAC: 28,399	Message 1011908 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 0:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 1011895.
	I think I am going to let my machines run dry and that's it, not that I have much work to begin with. The situation went from bad to bugged to nobody-knows to mega-outage within the past 6 months. Might be a good idea to hope that ET receives our radio and tv spam and comes to visit. I am not going to leave my computer running just to be busy for 2 hours with those 20 units and then waste electricty for the rest of the day doing nothing. That said, it was nice the past almost 11 years, have a good weekend and bye bye. Barring an outage...I have a few machines that have 20 and report 1 and get 1 more...Won't work well for my i7 but my smaller machines are running. Hiamps, are you still having to choose between CPU OR GPU? or can you keep them both crunching? My i7 has 100's of CPU tasks that are all VLars, wish I could send them back to GPU, it does them faster than my CPU....Barely, but at least my room would be warm....Brrrrrrrr reaching for my coat. ____________ Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
	ID: 1011908 ·

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