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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
How many bad things going on in the world right now are directly linked to Reagan and his corporate criminal connections? Here he is hosting the very people we are at war with at the present time. I guess we really are judged by the company we keep. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
How many bad things going on in the world right now are directly linked to Reagan and his corporate criminal connections? So Mujahideen = Taliban Got it. |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Here's where I found the photo. http://ourcanada.tk/ This is the caption under the photo... President Ronald Regan meets with Afghan Taliban leaders at the White House. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4 |
Robert, thank you for that photo and that link. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
and I thought the US had exclusive rights on wing nuts In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
and I thought the US had exclusive rights on wing nuts Nah Just exclusive Right-Wing Nuts. Janice |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
"Many of the mujahideen who later joined the Taliban fought alongside Afghan warlord Mohammad Nabi Mohammadi's Harkat i Inqilabi group at the time of the Russian invasion. This group also enjoyed the loyalty of most Afghan Arab fighters." I lifted the above quote from the piece below... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
HAL Send message Joined: 28 Mar 03 Posts: 704 Credit: 870,617 RAC: 0 |
IMHO Mujahideen do NOT = Taliban. They are a Nationalist type group. The Taliban may or may not be members of Mujahideen but rather are a group of religious fanatics. Mujahideen support elimination of foreign influences in Afgan affairs. Taliban support imposition of religious dominance in Afgan Affairs. Both use FORCE to impose their agenda. Both will use Al Quaeda resources as it suits their purposes. Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079 |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
IMHO Mujahideen do NOT = Taliban. They are a Nationalist type group. The Taliban may or may not be members of Mujahideen but rather are a group of religious fanatics. Mujahideen support elimination of foreign influences in Afgan affairs. Taliban support imposition of religious dominance in Afgan Affairs. Both use FORCE to impose their agenda. Both will use Al Quaeda resources as it suits their purposes. Agree 100% Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
rebest Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0 |
IMHO Mujahideen do NOT = Taliban. They are a Nationalist type group. The Taliban may or may not be members of Mujahideen but rather are a group of religious fanatics. Mujahideen support elimination of foreign influences in Afgan affairs. Taliban support imposition of religious dominance in Afgan Affairs. Both use FORCE to impose their agenda. Both will use Al Quaeda resources as it suits their purposes. I don't agree 100%, but there are certainly elements of truth to the statement. We can thank Bill Clinton and our bestest best friends in Pakistan for the Taliban. The Taliban movement attracted the support of Pakistan 1994. Pakistan saw in the Taliban a way to secure trade routes to Central Asia and establish a government in Kabul friendly to its interests. Pakistani traders who had long sought a secure route to send their goods to Central Asia quickly became some of the Taliban's strongest financial backers. The Pakistanis also wished for a stable government to take hold in Afghanistan, regardless of ideology, in the hopes that the 3 million Afghans who for 15 years had taken refuge in Pakistan would return to their homeland. While all of this was going on, the US was still patting itself on the back for driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Clinton Administration did nothing - for years - while the ISI was turning Afghanistan into a fundamentalist hotbed. Only after 9/11 did we re-establish ties with our former allies in the Northern Alliance. Afghanistan is a backwater. The big problem is and always has been Pakistan. They gleefully take our money and swear up one side and down the other they are "committed partners" in Bush's so-called "War on Terror". BS! They'll play one side against the other as long as they can, building up their nuclear arsenal as they go. Join the PACK! |
rebest Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1296 Credit: 45,357,093 RAC: 0 |
Pakistan Aids Insurgency in Afghanistan, Reports Assert By MARK MAZZETTI, JANE PERLEZ, ERIC SCHMITT and ANDREW W. LEHREN Published: July 25, 2010 The New York Times Americans fighting the war in Afghanistan have long harbored strong suspicions that Pakistan’s military spy service has guided the Afghan insurgency with a hidden hand, even as Pakistan receives more than $1 billion a year from Washington for its help combating the militants, according to a trove of secret military field reports made public Sunday. The documents, made available by an organization called WikiLeaks, suggest that Pakistan, an ostensible ally of the United States, allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders. Taken together, the reports indicate that American soldiers on the ground are inundated with accounts of a network of Pakistani assets and collaborators that runs from the Pakistani tribal belt along the Afghan border, through southern Afghanistan, and all the way to the capital, Kabul. Much of the information — raw intelligence and threat assessments gathered from the field in Afghanistan— cannot be verified and likely comes from sources aligned with Afghan intelligence, which considers Pakistan an enemy, and paid informants. Some describe plots for attacks that do not appear to have taken place. But many of the reports rely on sources that the military rated as reliable. While current and former American officials interviewed could not corroborate individual reports, they said that the portrait of the spy agency’s collaboration with the Afghan insurgency was broadly consistent with other classified intelligence. Some of the reports describe Pakistani intelligence working alongside Al Qaeda to plan attacks. Experts cautioned that although Pakistan’s militant groups and Al Qaeda work together, directly linking the Pakistani spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, with Al Qaeda is difficult. The records also contain firsthand accounts of American anger at Pakistan’s unwillingness to confront insurgents who launched attacks near Pakistani border posts, moved openly by the truckload across the frontier, and retreated to Pakistani territory for safety. The behind-the-scenes frustrations of soldiers on the ground and glimpses of what appear to be Pakistani skullduggery contrast sharply with the frequently rosy public pronouncements of Pakistan as an ally by American officials, looking to sustain a drone campaign over parts of Pakistani territory to strike at Qaeda havens. Administration officials also want to keep nuclear-armed Pakistan on their side to safeguard NATO supplies flowing on routes that cross Pakistan to Afghanistan. This month, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, in one of the frequent visits by American officials to Islamabad, announced $500 million in assistance and called the United States and Pakistan “partners joined in common cause.†The reports suggest, however, the Pakistani military has acted as both ally and enemy, as its spy agency runs what American officials have long suspected is a double game — appeasing certain American demands for cooperation while angling to exert influence in Afghanistan through many of the same insurgent networks that the Americans are fighting to eliminate. Join the PACK! |
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