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Message 1005242 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 13:23:26 UTC

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Since it appears that reaching the maximum number of CPU or GPU units (and I suppose eventually AP units) triggers this message. Would it be possible for it to be annotated with the type of unit that's been maxxed out ?

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"reached daily quota of xxx CPU tasks" or "reached daily quota of xxx GPU tasks" etc.

It would help ease the confusion and give a better indication of the cruncher's performance. Just a thought.

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Message 1005297 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 15:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1005242.  

+1

I'll mail them when I get back (at client's site at the moment)
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Message 1005314 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 16:13:05 UTC
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An other suggestion.

It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU.
Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU.

Please, vote this suggestion! :-)

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Message 1005328 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 17:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 1005314.  

An other suggestion.

It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU.
Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU.

Please, vote this suggestion! :-)

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If it's easy to implement, I think it's a very good idea!
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Message 1005602 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:28:27 UTC

From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.
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Message 1005611 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:51:16 UTC
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From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads.

If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest.

Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly.
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Message 1005614 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1005611.  

From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads.

If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest.

Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly.

You would be holding your breath like the kitties.......

I am tempted to shut all down too......but I have always been the stalwart Seti supporter. I suppose I can let the rigs idle a few more days and wait until Eric can bang his fist on somebody's desk hard and long enough to enact a correction.

I do hope he doesn't go postal.........
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Message 1005760 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 15:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 1005602.  

From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.
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Message 1005794 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 1005760.  

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.

There's a (different) daily quota for each platform.

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Message 1005798 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:29:56 UTC - in response to Message 1005760.  

From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.


I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks.

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Message 1005801 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 1005798.  

From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.


I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks.

So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome? I see no reason to upgrade as My SSSE3x app works fine and I should not be told to go away or have My concerns ignored.
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Message 1005806 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:44:26 UTC - in response to Message 1005801.  

So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome?

No, Bill Walker was speaking about the anonymous tasks without CPU or Nvidia GPU appended in the list.

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Message 1005813 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 1005806.  
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Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?

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Message 1005816 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1005813.  

Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?

"applications details" page? I've looked in My account and I see no "applications details" page at all. Unless You mean Tasks and as to what It says there for My cpu, It says "Anonymous platform - CPU".
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Message 1005817 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1005816.  
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He means here VW.. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107

Go to your accounts page/computers/details or click on your name here in the forum and it shows up as a link marked here.


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Message 1005819 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:21:43 UTC

Oops, click on your name here click on computers click on details and the link button says show. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3744107


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Message 1005820 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1005816.  


This is the info they talk about (for your computer # 3744107)
Application info for host 3744107
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107


 


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Message 1005821 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:29:24 UTC
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Since I have only one app, One of these is lying and I think It's the bottom one.

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown)
Number of tasks completed	34
Max tasks per day		34
Number of tasks today		0
Consecutive valid tasks		34
Average turnaround time		3.98 days
SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU)
Number of tasks completed	144
Max tasks per day		244
Number of tasks today		254
Consecutive valid tasks		144
Average turnaround time		1.03 days

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Message 1005822 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:42:51 UTC

Here's a picture for You all, The Quota is fiction and works terrible.

And that's al I have, If the server says I have some cpu work, Then It's a fat lie.
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Message 1005823 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:45:13 UTC - in response to Message 1005821.  


"Since I have only one app, One of these is lying and I think It's the bottom one.":
NO, both are true

The top (anonymous platform, Unknown) are the tasks you downloaded before the credit system change (more than 3 days ago) (all of us "optimized" folks have this type) (this type (maybe) will no longer be used)

The bottom (anonymous platform, CPU) are the tasks you downloaded after the credit system change.


This is my info (you can see anybody's info)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=4832843

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown)
	Number of tasks completed	22
	Max tasks per day		42
	Number of tasks today		0
	Consecutive valid tasks		22
	Average turnaround time		21.45 days

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU)
	Number of tasks completed	9
	Max tasks per day		109
	Number of tasks today		2
	Consecutive valid tasks		9
	Average turnaround time		0.76 days




 


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