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Message 1007022 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 19:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 1006991.

My local fire dept is totally volunteer and they welcome all with a smile
no harassing the messenger, no pointing the blame, they just DO IT


First, you and I are the volunteers here. Just do it, please. I'm doing it right now.

Second:

consequences of bad performance of volunteer fire department: death and destruction

consequences of bad performance of S@H project (I assume that is what you mean): well - uh - not much, really
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Message 1007035 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 1007022.

My local fire dept is totally volunteer and they welcome all with a smile
no harassing the messenger, no pointing the blame, they just DO IT


First, you and I are the volunteers here. Just do it, please. I'm doing it right now.

Second:

consequences of bad performance of volunteer fire department: death and destruction

consequences of bad performance of S@H project (I assume that is what you mean): well - uh - not much, really



I give up all these "message boards" are nothing more than "harass the messenger"

We as the volunteers have NO RIGHTS -- not even the right to complain

THEY do as they please.. They are PAID to do something. and then THEY want us to contribute cash money to do more of the "good job they are providing now"

IF they can't be professional now WHY would anyone be compelled to send them hard earned cash that we had to be professional to earn ?
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Message 1007042 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 1007035.
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WE are not harrasing the messenger.
Everyone has the right to voice their opinions on these boards.
However, what no-one has the right to do is abuse, insult or put down people that work long hours, in their own time to make this THE most successful BOINC project there is
If you don't understand why the project is unstable at the moment, or don't understand why there is frequent downtime then please ask. There are plenty of people around that will answer questions about what is going on at the moment.

Please do not insult the people that have dedicated a lot of their lives to making this project what it is as that will just annoy people spend a lot of time and effort on this project
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Message 1007044 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:14:41 UTC - in response to Message 1006970.

I wonder what the WU used as a bribe?

Hi Hiamps,

I did some investigation in to the SETI code to see what the WU kidnapper's wants are and soon discovered their shocking demand. "All your cats are belong to us," a clever modification of "All your base are belong to us."

You see, they meow have access to all SETI cat pictured profiles--- including yours. This means all feline pictured must deliver shown fur balls to the Berkeley SETI server room by 12 midnight tonight or the results will be catastrophic!! Seeing to how many "Puss in Boots" pics there are on these damn threads, I'm assuming we will lose half of our members.


"Insert sophisticated reply hee."

Keep crunchin'

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Oh No, did my dog become a cat? Figures ET would be behind it.
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Message 1007046 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:22:50 UTC

Frankly, and kindly, I do wish that someone at Berkeley would post something short and informative on a daily basis. No blogs, or treatises. Just a simple communication on a more or less daily basis. It would help us all, and help beat back the rioters when rioting commences.

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Message 1007049 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 1007046.

<---close to Berkely ( location) Update... Volunteers are still using computing power to search for Little Green Men. Their work is GREATLY appreciated. Financial restraints sometimes stop us from being perfect, in everyones eyes, but the battle goes on in search of knowledge.

Be well, search for the truth.
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Message 1007052 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:36:20 UTC - in response to Message 1007046.

Frankly, and kindly, I do wish that someone at Berkeley would post something short and informative on a daily basis. No blogs, or treatises. Just a simple communication on a more or less daily basis. It would help us all, and help beat back the rioters when rioting commences.


I totally agree
Its very arrogant to leave those of us Volunteers in the dark
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Message 1007054 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:39:48 UTC

They do provide updates when they can. Be thankful for what you've got. Life could be worse.

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Message 1007055 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:41:55 UTC
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Eric etc. aren't, they are paid staff. When they aren't being paid, they don't work. What is the problem with this concept?


I think you will find that Eric and the others at Seti, do one hell of a sight more than their salaries require of them.

Its very arrogant to leave those of us Volunteers in the dark


That is not true and never has been. They have always done the best they can with limited resources. They can't afford a PR man. Matt played a blinder but wanted a break. Fair enough, in the meantime we should keep our loyalty.
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Message 1007059 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 20:53:45 UTC

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'd rather the crew at SETI deal with the problems, fix them as quick as they can, then worry about letting us know what the problem was. We all know there's a problem, there's nothing WE as volunteer's can do about it, other than DONATE to the cause. I've donated in the past, and if I didn't have so many damn bills, I'd donate again. I'd love to hit the lottery, and send half of it to the crew @ SETI to let them get top of the line stuff, and minimize the outages.

This project is the poster child of distributed computing. They run on a shoe string budget. They were not expected to stay up this long, but they are doing it. These guys also have lives outside of this project. These guys are some of the most professional people I know. Just because they don't answer every question or complaint every day, doesn't mean they aren't professional.

BOINC was designed to run multiple projects. Yes, many only want to do SETI, and that is their choice, but then you also have to realize that the project never, ever promised to be up and running 24/7, and have plenty of work to satisfy everyone's needs.

And, about the BETA testing stuff. If more people would go over to SETI Beta, more stuff could get tested before it came here. Server code changes come here simply because this project has the most users, and they can identify problems a lot sooner than if it was on any of the other projects, and, the head honcho behind BOINC is also at the SETI headquarters. A lot of other project administrator's probably don't want to "beta test" server code, so what other choice does Dave have?

Anyhow, off my soapbox. I'll happily go back to crunching many of the other projects, with this one on the side for when they get back up and running.

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Message 1007062 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:02:10 UTC

"If you don't understand why the project is unstable at the moment, or don't understand why there is frequent downtime then please ask. There are plenty of people around that will answer questions about what is going on at the moment."

OK, I don't understand and I am "asking?????" :-)

Having been a member for some time (1994) Yes, I'm 'ol school - BOINC Classic - and all that, I do have an appreciation for the dedication, determination, and professionalism of the SETI staff which is constantly on display.

Getting angry and posting "nastiness" accomplishes absolutely nothing! Having said all 'dat, I do hope the current difficulties can be resolved quickly.

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Message 1007063 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:02:22 UTC

Things seem to be on the mend. No chickens being counted, but credits are coming through - which should in turn mean downstream services can clean up and delete the result files that are taking up all the disk space.

Thanks for the work to get everything back up and running, and hope it stays that way.
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Message 1007068 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:13:53 UTC - in response to Message 1007062.

"If you don't understand why the project is unstable at the moment, or don't understand why there is frequent downtime then please ask. There are plenty of people around that will answer questions about what is going on at the moment."

OK, I don't understand and I am "asking?????" :-)

Having been a member for some time (1994) Yes, I'm 'ol school - BOINC Classic - and all that, I do have an appreciation for the dedication, determination, and professionalism of the SETI staff which is constantly on display.

Getting angry and posting "nastiness" accomplishes absolutely nothing! Having said all 'dat, I do hope the current difficulties can be resolved quickly.

ront




Must have something to do with "PERPETUAL STUDENTS"
I've been here since 2002 & its the SOS

Guess the old adage is true
Teachers teach - others do


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Message 1007069 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 1007062.

ront,
Did you get a patent on that time machine yet or are you just going to use it to go back and get one if anybody asks? SAH didn't start until 1999.
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Message 1007070 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:33:06 UTC

Not to mention that there's no such thing as BOINC Classic. It's SETI Classic (though obviously even that is an after the fact name).

/nitpick
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Message 1007073 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:41:34 UTC

Guess the old adage is true, Teachers teach - others do


Robert it is slightly different, the phrase correctly is

"Those who can do, those who can't teach"

But that is rubbish anyway as I can do, otherwise I could not be able to teach. I do wish you could be a bit more positive. There is enough negative vibes around here at the moment without you adding to them.

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Message 1007079 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:48:43 UTC - in response to Message 1007073.

Guess the old adage is true, Teachers teach - others do


Robert it is slightly different, the phrase correctly is

"Those who can do, those who can't teach"

But that is rubbish anyway as I can do, otherwise I could not be able to teach. I do wish you could be a bit more positive. There is enough negative vibes around here at the moment without you adding to them.


Negative vibes here? At this positive place?

Nah, I tell you about real negative vibes. That's what you feel when you come driving in a NATO marked vehicle, outside a mosque, in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

That my friend is real negative vibes.

Compared to that, this place is the most positive this side of heaven.


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Message 1007080 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:56:34 UTC
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Or being the family of that person in that NATO vehicle, knowing there's not a damn thing you can do should the worst happen.

No personal experience, but the UK just having marked our 300th death as a result of the conflict certainly adds some perspective.
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Message 1007081 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:56:45 UTC

Robert: come join the rest of us mal-contents down in number crunching.

This "perfect storm" is subsiding.


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Message 1007082 - Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 22:04:07 UTC

Nah, I tell you about real negative vibes. That's what you feel when you come driving in a NATO marked vehicle, outside a mosque, in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

That my friend is real negative vibes.


I have never been in that position, but if you have, then you have my respect.

But, over here at Seti, at the end of the day, isn't it all about sticking with an old mate that maybe needs a bit of a helping hand. We do it in real life for family and friends. Why not here?

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