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Message 1004905 - Posted: 16 Jun 2010, 23:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 1004881.

Been watching the results ready to send ; so who the hell getting them. Not me
None by this time tomorrow; then Seti can color my good bye.

You haven't been observing carefully enough, the ready to send is 11 hours out of date.

That said, there is work available for awhile and the Cricket graph showed that it is going out. Some hosts have been lucky enough to ask at times the Scheduler knew about work, probably many haven't.
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Message 1004938 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:05:51 UTC - in response to Message 1004860.

Me too but to give up almost 10 million and 10 years just because some damn code or what-ever is screwed up; well; I could turned them all off and not see here again. Still have work but guess it would be resent eventualy

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Have you looked at the new Application info pages for your host's yet?

If you take your Windows 7 host, it's Application info page shows it's down to a Max tasks per day of 34, probably something to do with you detaching it yesterday,
those 15 tasks were probably counted as errored tasks, you'll just have to wait for your wingmen to validate your other completed tasks before it'll rise much,

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Message 1004943 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1004938.

Me too but to give up almost 10 million and 10 years just because some damn code or what-ever is screwed up; well; I could turned them all off and not see here again. Still have work but guess it would be resent eventualy

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Have you looked at the new Application info pages for your host's yet?

If you take your Windows 7 host, it's Application info page shows it's down to a Max tasks per day of 34, probably something to do with you detaching it yesterday,
those 15 tasks were probably counted as errored tasks, you'll just have to wait for your wingmen to validate your other completed tasks before it'll rise much,

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So, this will destroy every chance for CUDA crunchers to get new WU's if they abort VLAR's with the opt Vlarkill app, en masse won't it?


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Message 1004948 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 1004938.
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Have you looked at the new Application info pages for your host's yet?

If you take your Windows 7 host, it's Application info page shows it's down to a Max tasks per day of 34, probably something to do with you detaching it yesterday,
those 15 tasks were probably counted as errored tasks, you'll just have to wait for your wingmen to validate your other completed tasks before it'll rise much,

Claggy

It'll also give us the chance to see whether our "Number of tasks 'today'" resets at 07:00 UTC.

Just recording for my own reference that my Fermi is reporting 124 tasks so far 'today', though neither the task list nor BOINC Manager is showing anywhere near as many.

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Message 1004949 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 1004948.
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are you sure that's not 124 validated tasks today?

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Message 1004952 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:27:59 UTC - in response to Message 1004943.

Me too but to give up almost 10 million and 10 years just because some damn code or what-ever is screwed up; well; I could turned them all off and not see here again. Still have work but guess it would be resent eventualy

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Have you looked at the new Application info pages for your host's yet?

If you take your Windows 7 host, it's Application info page shows it's down to a Max tasks per day of 34, probably something to do with you detaching it yesterday,
those 15 tasks were probably counted as errored tasks, you'll just have to wait for your wingmen to validate your other completed tasks before it'll rise much,

Claggy


Just as on the other computers; if you look back, there have been numerous 'client detached' except that I did not do that. Haven't seen any new work on the 7 machine since the June 9 and the others that were detached; were not on the computers so was not able to detach them myself. I check them every night and see what has been up- and downloaded on all 5 computers. Why they did not show up and later detached; don't know the answer. Vista is the same. It did download some tasks after I unstalled and reinstall Boinc. Before June 9; it hasn't downloaded any work whereas the other three has until I disabled new work yesterday morning.

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So, this will destroy every chance for CUDA crunchers to get new WU's if they abort VLAR's with the opt Vlarkill app, en masse won't it?



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Message 1004954 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 0:31:41 UTC - in response to Message 1004949.

are you sure that's not 124 validated tasks today?

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I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be. When we were testing this at Beta, and I had the Fermi going full tilt (they were shorties, and I did well over 1,000 tasks - plotted a credit graph for 1,150 validated, which you can't see because the site is down), several times I got baulked for lack of quota. I could see that 'Number of tasks today' remained static, while 'Max tasks per day' and 'Consecutive valid tasks' increased in step as wingmates checked in and my tasks validated. When 'Max tasks per day' rose above 'Number of tasks today', I could fetch work again, and 'Number of tasks today' rose by the number I received.

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Message 1004980 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 1:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 1004954.

Just as on the other computers; if you look back, there have been numerous 'client detached' except that I did not do that. Haven't seen any new work on the 7 machine since the June 9 and the others that were detached; were not on the computers so was not able to detach them myself. I check them every night and see what has been up- and downloaded on all 5 computers. Why they did not show up and later detached; don't know the answer. Vista is the same. It did download some tasks after I unstalled and reinstall Boinc. Before June 9; it hasn't downloaded any work whereas the other three has until I disabled new work yesterday morning.

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Message 1004983 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 1:39:17 UTC

This was an interesting one, particularly seeing as this computer isn't signed up to Beta

17/06/2010 10:31:26 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test You used the wrong URL for this project
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test The correct URL is http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Using the wrong URL can cause problems in some cases.
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test When convenient, detach this project, then reattach to http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Can't find host record
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Invalid or missing account key. To fix, detach and reattach to this project .
17/06/2010 10:42:12 SETI@home Beta Test work fetch suspended by user

All seems ok now though, but it made my eyebrows lift :-)

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Message 1005026 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 3:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1004983.

This was an interesting one, particularly seeing as this computer isn't signed up to Beta

17/06/2010 10:31:26 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for CPU
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test You used the wrong URL for this project
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test The correct URL is http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/

17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Using the wrong URL can cause problems in some cases.
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test When convenient, detach this project, then reattach to http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Can't find host record
17/06/2010 10:31:30 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Invalid or missing account key. To fix, detach and reattach to this project .
17/06/2010 10:42:12 SETI@home Beta Test work fetch suspended by user

All seems ok now though, but it made my eyebrows lift :-)

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I got same message and then a bit later downloaded work. Had me wondering also.
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Message 1005180 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 10:17:19 UTC - in response to Message 1005026.

I got same message and then a bit later downloaded work. Had me wondering also.

Just had the same message here as well. Also not signed up to Beta. What gives? Do I actually have to do anything?
If I detach I shall lose the best part of 10 days' worth of cache and continuing work.
Expert guidance would be most welcome.

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Message 1005604 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 1004948.
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It'll also give us the chance to see whether our "Number of tasks 'today'" resets at 07:00 UTC.

Yesterday, at 07:00 UTC, My host http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=1852935 received 14 WUs.
I have seen some increment in Max tasks per day and Consecutive valid tasks but the field Number of tasks today wasn't set to zero.
Haw can the new system work if the daily counter isn't reset?
At what time this reset is done?

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Message 1005753 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 15:44:08 UTC - in response to Message 1005604.

It'll also give us the chance to see whether our "Number of tasks 'today'" resets at 07:00 UTC.

Yesterday, at 07:00 UTC, My host http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=1852935 received 14 WUs.
I have seen some increment in Max tasks per day and Consecutive valid tasks but the field Number of tasks today wasn't set to zero.
Haw can the new system work if the daily counter isn't reset?
At what time this reset is done?

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It is coded to be done when a host sends its first work request after midnight Berkeley time.
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Message 1005779 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 16:52:33 UTC - in response to Message 1005753.

It'll also give us the chance to see whether our "Number of tasks 'today'" resets at 07:00 UTC.

Yesterday, at 07:00 UTC, My host http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=1852935 received 14 WUs.
I have seen some increment in Max tasks per day and Consecutive valid tasks but the field Number of tasks today wasn't set to zero.
Haw can the new system work if the daily counter isn't reset?
At what time this reset is done?

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It is coded to be done when a host sends its first work request after midnight Berkeley time.
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And so far, It's Borked, As except for what might be reissued work, I can't get any work. As so far It looks like I'm being embargoed for no reason, As My AK app is to usable with seti @home, yet S@H says only stock is usable.

6/18/2010 9:50:01 AM SETI@home Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced.
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Message 1005800 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 1005753.


It is coded to be done when a host sends its first work request after midnight Berkeley time.


But it looks like the reset is somewhat selective. Have a look at this host (mine):

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5402676

I haven't used the stock client since this machine was built over a month ago.
The bottom two entries (anonymous entries) are valid for my setup, but didn't get zeroed overnight. Whether the top 2 did or not I couldn't say, since they were at zero yesterday........[/quote]
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Message 1005848 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 19:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 1005800.


It is coded to be done when a host sends its first work request after midnight Berkeley time.

But it looks like the reset is somewhat selective. Have a look at this host (mine):

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=5402676

I haven't used the stock client since this machine was built over a month ago.
The bottom two entries (anonymous entries) are valid for my setup, but didn't get zeroed overnight. Whether the top 2 did or not I couldn't say, since they were at zero yesterday........

There are certainly abundant examples in this forum of hosts for which the intended reset isn't working. There have also been posts showing it working for some, no viable theory yet on what makes the difference. I just hope the authors can figure it out and fix it reasonably soon.

At the tail end of your pending list there are ten more tasks your host did with stock 6.03 which should eventually add to the numbers shown for that app.
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Message 1005853 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 19:48:07 UTC - in response to Message 1005848.

There are certainly abundant examples in this forum of hosts for which the intended reset isn't working. There have also been posts showing it working for some, no viable theory yet on what makes the difference. I just hope the authors can figure it out and fix it reasonably soon.


I just mention it as another example (sometimes it pays to have a variety of examples to help work out a solution). I have every confidence that things will eventually be sorted out, even if others don't!
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