Mine asked for work a few times and was told no work available and then started getting the reached quota message even though it didn't download any work. Not good.

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FWIW...

It just rolled over to Thursday morning here in the Pacific Time Zone, and sure enough, BOINC started DL'ing work on my 920 rig for the GPU only, since I have plenty of CPU work.

After DL'ing 117 WU's (of which 23 were VLAR's) I got the dreaded 100 unit limit message.

So, it appears to my (non-techie) way of thinking that the "limit" isn't even 100 per GPU, as I have 2 GPU's on this box.

Like Mr. Segur said several posts above, clearly this needs to be watched and reported to the powers that be.

I know this is a bit off topic, but what is a VLAR? I've never heard of it here nor seen the possibility of something being it. Could you please explain anything i might need to know about them? The only thing i see is people saying most other people abort VLAR's.

Also,

I'll be keeping an eye on this issue and reporting anything i can that way we can try work out what's going on and provide any information required. :D

FWIW...

It just rolled over to Thursday morning here in the Pacific Time Zone, and sure enough, BOINC started DL'ing work on my 920 rig for the GPU only, since I have plenty of CPU work.

After DL'ing 117 WU's (of which 23 were VLAR's) I got the dreaded 100 unit limit message.

So, it appears to my (non-techie) way of thinking that the "limit" isn't even 100 per GPU, as I have 2 GPU's on this box.

Like Mr. Segur said several posts above, clearly this needs to be watched and reported to the powers that be.

I know this is a bit off topic, but what is a VLAR? I've never heard of it here nor seen the possibility of something being it. Could you please explain anything i might need to know about them? The only thing i see is people saying most other people abort VLAR's.

Also,

I'll be keeping an eye on this issue and reporting anything i can that way we can try work out what's going on and provide any information required. :D

VLAR = Very Low Angle Range

VLARs are usually very harsh on GPUs (causing them to take as long as CPUs to compute). Many people use Lunatic's VLAR killer app, but others (like me) use the non-VLAR killing app and utilize ReScheduler to move VLARs to the CPU for computation.

You can look in some of your previous completed WUs and the "WU true angle range is :" field will tell you the angle. VLARs are usually > 0.010

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Well, I've just finished downloading 102 (!) tasks - generous to a fault. Now the daily quota message has re-surfaced for me. Out of curiosity, is it only the people that are running the the non-standard apps that are getting this quota restriction? If so, I can see some logic behind what is going on.

There was a message posted some days ago about the Fermi class cards causing a problem. Pure speculation, but instead of just not sending out work, I wonder if the project has decided to limit non-standard app' users to 100 tasks a day (whilst the project gets themselves organised), whilst letting those that run the 'official' stock app' unlimited access to download tasks as their clients request them.....

So the question is, is it just non standard app' users who are suffering from the quota cap? Are there any standard app' users who are getting the quota cap?

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FWIW...

It just rolled over to Thursday morning here in the Pacific Time Zone, and sure enough, BOINC started DL'ing work on my 920 rig for the GPU only, since I have plenty of CPU work.

After DL'ing 117 WU's (of which 23 were VLAR's) I got the dreaded 100 unit limit message.

So, it appears to my (non-techie) way of thinking that the "limit" isn't even 100 per GPU, as I have 2 GPU's on this box.

Like Mr. Segur said several posts above, clearly this needs to be watched and reported to the powers that be.

I know this is a bit off topic, but what is a VLAR? I've never heard of it here nor seen the possibility of something being it. Could you please explain anything i might need to know about them? The only thing i see is people saying most other people abort VLAR's.

Also,

I'll be keeping an eye on this issue and reporting anything i can that way we can try work out what's going on and provide any information required. :D

VLAR = Very Low Angle Range

VLARs are usually very harsh on GPUs (causing them to take as long as CPUs to compute). Many people use Lunatic's VLAR killer app, but others (like me) use the non-VLAR killing app and utilize ReScheduler to move VLARs to the CPU for computation.

You can look in some of your previous completed WUs and the "WU true angle range is :" field will tell you the angle. VLARs are usually > 0.010

Thanks for that, also is it rare to get AP WU's? I haven't gotten any since i came back to SETI, i remember i use to get them all the time back in the day.

So the question is, is it just non standard app' users who are suffering from the quota cap? Are there any standard app' users who are getting the quota cap?

I'm going to fire up my old AMD machine, i'll let you know how many WU's i get and if i get the error on standard app.

When I flush my cache, after uninstalling non-standard apps, then i can download more WU

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Well, I've just finished downloading 102 (!) tasks - generous to a fault. Now the daily quota message has re-surfaced for me. Out of curiosity, is it only the people that are running the the non-standard apps that are getting this quota restriction? If so, I can see some logic behind what is going on.

There was a message posted some days ago about the Fermi class cards causing a problem. Pure speculation, but instead of just not sending out work, I wonder if the project has decided to limit non-standard app' users to 100 tasks a day (whilst the project gets themselves organised), whilst letting those that run the 'official' stock app' unlimited access to download tasks as their clients request them.....

So the question is, is it just non standard app' users who are suffering from the quota cap? Are there any standard app' users who are getting the quota cap?

Good question. I doubt it, but I really don't know how much of the Beta code they've imported, and how many of the outstanding bugs they've cleared. For example, at Beta the final 'quota busting' work request seems not to be capped, allowing that request to overshoot the limit: from a couple of the recent posts, the same bug seems to be present here too. And there's a slight question mark in my mind about the daily reset, which should have just happened. One of my Beta hosts is still stuck under last Friday's quota limit!

But I've got a Fermi running the stock application: I'll push quota a bit today, and see what happens.

I think Darwin may have answered my question. Take a look at his 4100462 host. Seems to be a lot more than 100 tasks there........

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Check this: This is my optimized machine running lunatics, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5387246 it has 186 in progress WU's and has completed more than that today too, i am not getting any more errors, it just keeps downloading WU's. It doesn't make sense.

I think Darwin may have answered my question. Take a look at his 4100462 host. Seems to be a lot more than 100 tasks there........

I don't know enough about what he means by "flush my cache". Let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.

When the last WU was crunched i uninstall non-standard apps, then whith standard app download new WU and then reinstall lunatics app.
It work for me

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Let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.

I agree. I wish there was a document that described the process behind all the servers, the logical architecture, the process flows and which bit of the client config controlled what! The evidence does SEEM to point to this conclusion though. Of course, all this speculation would dry up if we just has a few lines from the project in the form of a status update!

If anybody reaches the point of no work, and feels like switching to the standard apps and they get the same result, the evidence will continue to build. I obviously don't suggest for a second that people just detach and re-attach (and therefore dump their existing cache - NOOOOOOO); the project has enough problems without us users generating even more headaches for them! I think the project ARE trying to provide some work for everyone (perhaps biased towards their supplied apps) whilst they get a handle on the overall situation (since there are at least two Fermi related issues to nail down and control), figure out a plan and then implement it. I for one will just sit tight and process what I'm given - when it comes through and will make no changes to my set up.

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OK, here's a partial answer from host 4292666. The stock application is subject to the same quota.

09-Jun-2010 21:57:51 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 8 new tasks
09-Jun-2010 22:12:14 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 13 new tasks
09-Jun-2010 22:13:51 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 4 new tasks
09-Jun-2010 22:52:55 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 6 new tasks
09-Jun-2010 22:59:34 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
09-Jun-2010 23:07:53 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:40:14 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 7 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:40:32 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:41:46 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:48:23 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:53:55 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 02:59:26 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 03:46:39 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 5 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 03:48:16 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 03:50:35 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 03:52:54 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:01:43 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:12:47 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:40:36 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:43:33 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:49:52 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 04:59:10 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 05:11:44 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 05:17:03 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 05:19:17 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:06:01 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:16:30 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:24:45 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:28:44 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:33:03 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:37:22 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:42:36 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 08:48:51 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 10:14:52 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 20 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 10:15:07 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 17 new tasks
10-Jun-2010 10:15:25 [SETI@home] Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks)

(I make that 108 tasks, which is the 'overshoot' I mentioned)

And no sign of a quota reset at (pacific) midnight, either. Let's see what happens when I start reporting the next batch - switched from GPUGrid about five minutes ago.

14 results of 'Not in DB' WUs sent back. [EDIT: And a lot of other results!]
103 new WUs got.


The last DL of 109 WUs was at 9 Jun 2010 3:19:30 UTC. [EDIT#2: Which are marked as 'Not in DB']
The next DL of new WUs (103) started at 10 Jun 2010 7:01:01 UTC.

And again:
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.
Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks)
or
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks)


The Duo-CPU with one GPU need at least ~ 191 normal WUs/day.


I don't know what will happen if someone let run the VLARkill CUDA app.
Maybe he will never again get WUs.. :-|

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Even I'm getting one of these 100 tasks messages, Plus one other saying this:


6/9/2010 9:24:54 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced.

But I haven't seen that or any message in red in almost half an hour(9:24pm PDT).

I too am getting this message in addition to the one with the 100 WU cap. My CPU is crunching away, but I can't get anything for my empty GPU's.

Steve

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Even I'm getting one of these 100 tasks messages, Plus one other saying this:


6/9/2010 9:24:54 PM SETI@home Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced.

But I haven't seen that or any message in red in almost half an hour(9:24pm PDT).

I too am getting this message in addition to the one with the 100 WU cap. My CPU is crunching away, but I can't get anything for my empty GPU's.

Steve

This is weird Steve, i've got over 36 GPU WU's waiting to start, i hit the limit earlier but i had a 10 day cache running and i changed it back to 3 after testing, but it's still downloaded more than 220 WU's today, and half way through it got the error 3 times, then it just went away. I'm not getting the invalid app version but i am getting "Not in DB".

Do you think yours might be related to the Fermi's?

Jarryd

Most likely. I have one of the few installations that was working prior to Richard's thread on how to get them running. Once I get home in about 9 hours, I will copy the renamed file into my SETI folder, and edit the app_info file with the name of the file, and see if that works. BOINC keeps trying to download GPU WU's, but all of the above messages appear at some point. Since the last outage, the Fermi's have downloaded nothing. I guess it will all get sorted out at some point, because at the moment there is not a thing I can do.

Steve

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In theory, even after you've reached the 100 quota message, you sould be able to get more later in the day after your earlier reported tasks have validated - but with no work available, and no tapes being split, we'll have to wait several hours to test that out properly.

With regard to the "Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced" message: I have a suspicion that this may be related to the operating system in use. I'm not getting that message (and I was getting work, on hosts with an app_info.xml, until it ran out). Could those who are getting this message post their OS, please? (platform and bit count only, I think - XP/Vista/7 shouldn't make any difference)

Most likely. I have one of the few installations that was working prior to Richard's thread on how to get them running. Once I get home in about 9 hours, I will copy the renamed file into my SETI folder, and edit the app_info file with the name of the file, and see if that works. BOINC keeps trying to download GPU WU's, but all of the above messages appear at some point. Since the last outage, the Fermi's have downloaded nothing. I guess it will all get sorted out at some point, because at the moment there is not a thing I can do.

Steve

Just checked my messages, i was actually getting a error about astropulse by the looks, not GPU WU's.


SETI@home Message from server: No work sent
SETI@home Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse v5
SETI@home Message from server: (reached daily quota of 100 tasks)

Seems when the AP database went dry, it stopped trying to get AP WU's and i haven't gotten the error since. I just have to try find my power cable for my other machine to try see if that has a WU issue on the default apps.

In theory, even after you've reached the 100 quota message, you sould be able to get more later in the day after your earlier reported tasks have validated - but with no work available, and no tapes being split, we'll have to wait several hours to test that out properly.

With regard to the "Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home Enhanced" message: I have a suspicion that this may be related to the operating system in use. I'm not getting that message (and I was getting work, on hosts with an app_info.xml, until it ran out). Could those who are getting this message post their OS, please? (platform and bit count only, I think - XP/Vista/7 shouldn't make any difference)

I am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Steve

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