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SchrodingersDog Send message Joined: 31 Jan 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 327,720 RAC: 107	Message 988468 - Posted: 11 Apr 2010, 22:49:46 UTC
After attempting to install the Lunatics’ optimized (setiathome_6.03_i686-apple-darwin) Astropulse application on Mac Core2 running 10.6.2 in 64-bit mode, I found that I could not get any work for SETI@home enhanced when Astropulse ran out of work. After browsing the Lunatics forums for way too long, I saw recommendations to reinstall the Bionic client, and reset the SETI project, after deleting the “app_info.xml” file.This may have worked, but I still get errors when trying to obtain enhanced work units. I also have a backlog in my online results of 6 pending workunits but I don’t know where they are or how I could get them back. Presently, I’m letting my Einstein@home cache run down in case I need to do any major surgery to fix this problem. Sorry for the long log, but it’s for the best... Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.43 for x86_64-apple-darwin Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3 c-ares/1.7.0 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7550 @ 2.26GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10] Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Processor features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 OS: Darwin: 10.3.0 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 46.81 GB virtual Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Disk: 148.73 GB total, 46.57 GB free Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Local time is UTC -4 hours Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9400M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 1.1, 254MB, 35 GFLOPS peak) Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Einstein@Home URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 2477090; resource share 50 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 lhcathome URL http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 9840863; resource share 50 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5286177; resource share 150 Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 10-Apr-2010 14:24:25) Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home Host location: none Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home General prefs: using your defaults Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Reading preferences override file Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Preferences: Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max memory usage when active: 1536.00MB Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max memory usage when idle: 1945.60MB Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max disk usage: 29.75GB Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 90 % Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 (to change, visit the web site of an attached project, Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 or click on Preferences) Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Using proxy info from GUI Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Not using a proxy Sun Apr 11 17:58:30 2010 Einstein@Home Restarting task h1_0445.15_S5R4__343_S5GCEa_2 using einstein_S5GCE version 504 Sun Apr 11 17:58:31 2010 Einstein@Home Restarting task h1_0445.20_S5R4__88_S5GCEa_1 using einstein_S5GCE version 504 Sun Apr 11 18:01:23 2010 SETI@home update requested by user Sun Apr 11 18:01:27 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Sun Apr 11 18:01:27 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU Sun Apr 11 18:01:32 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun Apr 11 18:01:32 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available) Sun Apr 11 18:02:43 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Sun Apr 11 18:02:43 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU Sun Apr 11 18:02:48 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun Apr 11 18:02:48 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available) Sun Apr 11 18:05:04 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Sun Apr 11 18:05:04 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU Sun Apr 11 18:05:09 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun Apr 11 18:05:09 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available) Sun Apr 11 18:07:25 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Sun Apr 11 18:07:25 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU Sun Apr 11 18:07:30 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun Apr 11 18:07:30 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available) Sun Apr 11 18:11:46 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Sun Apr 11 18:11:46 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU Sun Apr 11 18:11:51 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sun Apr 11 18:11:51 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3151 Credit: 41,370,147 RAC: 30,853	Message 988522 - Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 2:51:47 UTC - in response to Message 988468. Last modified: 12 Apr 2010, 2:52:22 UTC
I think this will fix the problem, has both Alex Kan's Optimized Multibeam app and the Lunatics Optimized Astropulse app. Intel Mac Unified Installer Just select the correct option from the list-Core 2 Duo. ____________
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SchrodingersDog Send message Joined: 31 Jan 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 327,720 RAC: 107	Message 988542 - Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 4:30:51 UTC - in response to Message 988522.
Thank you Arkayn and Alex Kan for you mac installer: Since I'm just getting introduced to the world of compiling BSD applications, I'm not ready to make my own just yet. Anyway, my next concern is with the 'app_info.xml' file. Will this have to be manually edited after every update from Alex? Will SETI still continue to update my applications automatically and over-ride the app_info.xml file? I have not been able to locate clear answers or how-to's in regard to answering these questions in either the lunatics' or SETI@home's forums. Regards, Chris Graduate Research Asst. Dept. of Materials Science NC State University
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3151 Credit: 41,370,147 RAC: 30,853	Message 988562 - Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 5:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 988542.
When you switch over to the anonymous platform, i.e. app_info, that makes you responsible to update the apps as they come out. On the Multibeam area, we are still running the version that was released about 3 years ago. It is still current for the work we are doing. The Astropulse app was just released about 2 months ago after testing on the Lunatics forum. I am the creator of the installer app as there is the issue when installing optimized apps you had to reinstall BOINC to fix the permissions error, this installs the files with the proper permissions. I update the files and packages on my server whenever there is a new release. ____________
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Odysseus Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1786 Credit: 3,765,878 RAC: 461	Message 989013 - Posted: 14 Apr 2010, 1:36:18 UTC - in response to Message 988562.
I am the creator of the installer app as there is the issue when installing optimized apps you had to reinstall BOINC to fix the permissions error, this installs the files with the proper permissions. The permissions can also be fixed quite easily from the Finder’s Get Info dialog, without needing to reinstall BOINC. ____________
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SchrodingersDog Send message Joined: 31 Jan 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 327,720 RAC: 107	Message 989508 - Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 3:51:46 UTC - in response to Message 988562.
Hello again. I don't want to blame the optimized apps, but I can't get any work for SETI! It is odd that I was able crunch to WUs using the optimized apps, but I have not received work since the 11th. I also noticed that I have no less than 9 WU's listed as in-progress on my results page. Two were even reportedly sent on the 13th. I tried 'update' the project and have even 'reset' it, but I still can't get work. I have been receiving the same message every time SETI communicates with the server: "Not reporting or requesting tasks". P.S. I've been crunchin' for Einstein@home in the meantime (at least 80 hours worth).
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3151 Credit: 41,370,147 RAC: 30,853	Message 989512 - Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 4:10:05 UTC - in response to Message 989508.
Hello again. I don't want to blame the optimized apps, but I can't get any work for SETI! It is odd that I was able crunch to WUs using the optimized apps, but I have not received work since the 11th. I also noticed that I have no less than 9 WU's listed as in-progress on my results page. Two were even reportedly sent on the 13th. I tried 'update' the project and have even 'reset' it, but I still can't get work. I have been receiving the same message every time SETI communicates with the server: "Not reporting or requesting tasks". P.S. I've been crunchin' for Einstein@home in the meantime (at least 80 hours worth). It sounds like SETI is paying back debt to Einstein at the moment, BOINC thinks SETI has been overworked recently and is allowing Einstein to work until it catches back up. If you want to test it, suspend Einstein and then request work from SETI. It should then download some. ____________
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SchrodingersDog Send message Joined: 31 Jan 10 Posts: 7 Credit: 327,720 RAC: 107	Message 989746 - Posted: 17 Apr 2010, 3:07:35 UTC - in response to Message 989512.
Thank you for putting my mind at ease. I tried your suggestion and I did immediately get SETI WU's. I have about 4 Einstein@home WU's in the que right now and they are taking priority. I don't get nearly as many done as SETI units as they take ~11-13hrs each. Thanks again.
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Billy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Apr 06 Posts: 8 Credit: 596,495 RAC: 44	Message 992439 - Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 12:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 988522.
When I used the Unified Mac Installer, I noticed that for my machine, Core Duo, the installer had 0 MB for the size of the files, even though it listed around 4 MB for the Core 2 Duo and the Zeon installs. Everything seemed to go okay and after reinstalling Boinc to get the permissions fixed, it is running okay. I just can't get any AP work units. Cheers ____________
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After attempting to install the Lunatics’ optimized (setiathome_6.03_i686-apple-darwin) Astropulse application on Mac Core2 running 10.6.2 in 64-bit mode, I found that I could not get any work for SETI@home enhanced when Astropulse ran out of work.

After browsing the Lunatics forums for way too long, I saw recommendations to reinstall the Bionic client, and reset the SETI project, after deleting the “app_info.xml” file.This may have worked, but I still get errors when trying to obtain enhanced work units.

I also have a backlog in my online results of 6 pending workunits but I don’t know where they are or how I could get them back.

Presently, I’m letting my Einstein@home cache run down in case I need to do any major surgery to fix this problem.

Sorry for the long log, but it’s for the best...

Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.43 for x86_64-apple-darwin
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.7l zlib/1.2.3 c-ares/1.7.0
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7550 @ 2.26GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Processor features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 OS: Darwin: 10.3.0
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 46.81 GB virtual
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Disk: 148.73 GB total, 46.57 GB free
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Local time is UTC -4 hours
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9400M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 1.1, 254MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Einstein@Home URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 2477090; resource share 50
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 lhcathome URL http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 9840863; resource share 50
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5286177; resource share 150
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 10-Apr-2010 14:24:25)
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home Host location: none
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 SETI@home General prefs: using your defaults
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Reading preferences override file
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Preferences:
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max memory usage when active: 1536.00MB
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max memory usage when idle: 1945.60MB
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 max disk usage: 29.75GB
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 90 %
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 (to change, visit the web site of an attached project,
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 or click on Preferences)
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Using proxy info from GUI
Sun Apr 11 17:58:25 2010 Not using a proxy
Sun Apr 11 17:58:30 2010 Einstein@Home Restarting task h1_0445.15_S5R4__343_S5GCEa_2 using einstein_S5GCE version 504
Sun Apr 11 17:58:31 2010 Einstein@Home Restarting task h1_0445.20_S5R4__88_S5GCEa_1 using einstein_S5GCE version 504
Sun Apr 11 18:01:23 2010 SETI@home update requested by user
Sun Apr 11 18:01:27 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Sun Apr 11 18:01:27 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
Sun Apr 11 18:01:32 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Apr 11 18:01:32 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
Sun Apr 11 18:02:43 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Apr 11 18:02:43 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
Sun Apr 11 18:02:48 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Apr 11 18:02:48 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
Sun Apr 11 18:05:04 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Apr 11 18:05:04 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
Sun Apr 11 18:05:09 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Apr 11 18:05:09 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
Sun Apr 11 18:07:25 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Apr 11 18:07:25 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
Sun Apr 11 18:07:30 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Apr 11 18:07:30 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
Sun Apr 11 18:11:46 2010 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Apr 11 18:11:46 2010 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
Sun Apr 11 18:11:51 2010 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Apr 11 18:11:51 2010 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

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I think this will fix the problem, has both Alex Kan's Optimized Multibeam app and the Lunatics Optimized Astropulse app.

Intel Mac Unified Installer

Just select the correct option from the list-Core 2 Duo.
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Thank you Arkayn and Alex Kan for you mac installer:
Since I'm just getting introduced to the world of compiling BSD applications, I'm not ready to make my own just yet.

Anyway, my next concern is with the 'app_info.xml' file. Will this have to be manually edited after every update from Alex? Will SETI still continue to update my applications automatically and over-ride the app_info.xml file?

I have not been able to locate clear answers or how-to's in regard to answering these questions in either the lunatics' or SETI@home's forums.

Regards,
Chris
Graduate Research Asst.
Dept. of Materials Science
NC State University

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arkayn

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When you switch over to the anonymous platform, i.e. app_info, that makes you responsible to update the apps as they come out.

On the Multibeam area, we are still running the version that was released about 3 years ago. It is still current for the work we are doing.

The Astropulse app was just released about 2 months ago after testing on the Lunatics forum.

I am the creator of the installer app as there is the issue when installing optimized apps you had to reinstall BOINC to fix the permissions error, this installs the files with the proper permissions.

I update the files and packages on my server whenever there is a new release.
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I am the creator of the installer app as there is the issue when installing optimized apps you had to reinstall BOINC to fix the permissions error, this installs the files with the proper permissions.

The permissions can also be fixed quite easily from the Finder’s Get Info dialog, without needing to reinstall BOINC.

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Hello again.
I don't want to blame the optimized apps, but I can't get any work for SETI! It is odd that I was able crunch to WUs using the optimized apps, but I have not received work since the 11th. I also noticed that I have no less than 9 WU's listed as in-progress on my results page. Two were even reportedly sent on the 13th.

I tried 'update' the project and have even 'reset' it, but I still can't get work. I have been receiving the same message every time SETI communicates with the server: "Not reporting or requesting tasks".

P.S. I've been crunchin' for Einstein@home in the meantime (at least 80 hours worth).

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arkayn

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Hello again.
I don't want to blame the optimized apps, but I can't get any work for SETI! It is odd that I was able crunch to WUs using the optimized apps, but I have not received work since the 11th. I also noticed that I have no less than 9 WU's listed as in-progress on my results page. Two were even reportedly sent on the 13th.

I tried 'update' the project and have even 'reset' it, but I still can't get work. I have been receiving the same message every time SETI communicates with the server: "Not reporting or requesting tasks".

P.S. I've been crunchin' for Einstein@home in the meantime (at least 80 hours worth).

It sounds like SETI is paying back debt to Einstein at the moment, BOINC thinks SETI has been overworked recently and is allowing Einstein to work until it catches back up.

If you want to test it, suspend Einstein and then request work from SETI. It should then download some.
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Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
I tried your suggestion and I did immediately get SETI WU's. I have about 4 Einstein@home WU's in the que right now and they are taking priority. I don't get nearly as many done as SETI units as they take ~11-13hrs each.

Thanks again.

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When I used the Unified Mac Installer, I noticed that for my machine, Core Duo, the installer had 0 MB for the size of the files, even though it listed around 4 MB for the Core 2 Duo and the Zeon installs. Everything seemed to go okay and after reinstalling Boinc to get the permissions fixed, it is running okay. I just can't get any AP work units.

Cheers
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