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Message 979992 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:27:48 UTC
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Not that it would happen soon but it would be cool to have a couple extra buttons on the Projects tab page. We have "No new Tasks" but it would be helpful if there were also a "No CPU Tasks" and "No GPU Tasks". I assume both can be done by advanced users but I don't know how to stop boinc from downloading to CPU and still get GPU. A new button would be the easiest for the most. My CPU has plenty of work yet every now and then it still asks....
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Message 979995 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:32:41 UTC - in response to Message 979992.  

Not that it would happen soon but it would be cool to have a couple extra buttons on the Projects tab page. We have "No new Tasks" but it would be helpful if there were also a "No CPU Tasks" and "No GPU Tasks". I assume both can be done by advanced users but I don't know how to stop boinc from downloading to CPU and still get GPU. A new button would be the easiest for the most. My CPU has plenty of work yet every now and then it still asks....

I second that one....good suggestion.
Not sure if it would apply to projects other than Seti, as I only do Seti.
But it would be real handy here!!!
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Message 979996 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:32:46 UTC

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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Message 979997 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:34:51 UTC - in response to Message 979996.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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But the suggestion would allow a user to do this 'per rig' rather than by venue. And much handier to do/undo than by editing preferences.
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Message 980003 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 979996.  
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This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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Keep forgetting about that setting....They should reword both.
"Use CPU
(enforced by 6.10+ clients)" seems like it would stop the CPU from working by the way it sounds and has to be confusing to others than just me...But then again.
And even with that setting I can only control 3 computers.
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Message 980004 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 15:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 979997.  

I have been doing a lot of GPU/CPU troubleshooting lately, and the buttons would have come in very handy. I really like that suggestion.
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Message 980016 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 16:19:27 UTC

What would be really cool would be if you were able to decide that you wanted 1 day of CPU cycles and 10 days of GPU cycles.This way you could get convert all of your VLAR - OR to CPU cycles and not have to worry about the due date !!!

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Message 980030 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 16:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 980003.  


And even with that setting I can only control 3 computers.


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But I agree, I think those buttons would be useful.

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Message 980033 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 16:44:09 UTC - in response to Message 980016.  

What would be really cool would be if you were able to decide that you wanted 1 day of CPU cycles and 10 days of GPU cycles.This way you could get convert all of your VLAR - OR to CPU cycles and not have to worry about the due date !!!

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don't think it'll ever happen we've asked to have host control to set x days for one project and n days for another and been ignored forever. I like all the suggestions and think they would be great to have host control over settings, but the powers that be think the venue settings are good enough.
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Message 980037 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 17:00:48 UTC - in response to Message 980033.  

What would be really cool would be if you were able to decide that you wanted 1 day of CPU cycles and 10 days of GPU cycles.This way you could get convert all of your VLAR - OR to CPU cycles and not have to worry about the due date !!!

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don't think it'll ever happen we've asked to have host control to set x days for one project and n days for another and been ignored forever. I like all the suggestions and think they would be great to have host control over settings, but the powers that be think the venue settings are good enough.


It might be a nice feature in seti preferences that way they get around the overall boinc thing

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Message 980099 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 18:28:03 UTC - in response to Message 979992.  

Not that it would happen soon but it would be cool to have a couple extra buttons on the Projects tab page. We have "No new Tasks" but it would be helpful if there were also a "No CPU Tasks" and "No GPU Tasks". I assume both can be done by advanced users but I don't know how to stop boinc from downloading to CPU and still get GPU. A new button would be the easiest for the most. My CPU has plenty of work yet every now and then it still asks....


It would be a nice feature. So long as they were per project. I first saw a need for such a feature when I was running collatz & seti on 1 box. Seti kept requesting GPU tasks, which it wasn't allowed to run, & collatz kept requesting cpu work, which it wasn't allowed to run. I've since stopped running collatz on that machine & have it set to no gpus so boinc stops using up all of my bandwidth. As it seems all these requests really add up. With my "unlimited" internet only allowing 250GB/mo of xfers I don't need anything wasting my bandwidth nor do I think SETI & Collatz want their bandwidth wasted.
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Message 980113 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 18:35:36 UTC - in response to Message 979992.  

Not that it would happen soon but it would be cool to have a couple extra buttons on the Projects tab page. We have "No new Tasks" but it would be helpful if there were also a "No CPU Tasks" and "No GPU Tasks". I assume both can be done by advanced users but I don't know how to stop boinc from downloading to CPU and still get GPU. A new button would be the easiest for the most. My CPU has plenty of work yet every now and then it still asks....


Hey hiamps...
I second that proposal. I never recieve GPU tasks anymore, so I'm stuck using ReScheduler to rembrand the CPU tasks to GPU. And as always, that results in the "wrong password" problem, which always requires ending the BOINC process then opening it again.

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Message 980126 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 18:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 980113.  

Not that it would happen soon but it would be cool to have a couple extra buttons on the Projects tab page. We have "No new Tasks" but it would be helpful if there were also a "No CPU Tasks" and "No GPU Tasks". I assume both can be done by advanced users but I don't know how to stop boinc from downloading to CPU and still get GPU. A new button would be the easiest for the most. My CPU has plenty of work yet every now and then it still asks....


Hey hiamps...
I second that proposal. I never recieve GPU tasks anymore, so I'm stuck using ReScheduler to rembrand the CPU tasks to GPU. And as always, that results in the "wrong password" problem, which always requires ending the BOINC process then opening it again.

- Luke.

Ending boinc.exe or boincmgr.exe? When I get that I just click the button and connect to computer & everything is fine.
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Message 980139 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 18:51:19 UTC

How about be able to switch off or on Long and Short Term Debt. My computer is still recovering from the last outage. I run 2 projects SETI at 75% and Einstein at 25% (ie 3 cores on SETI and 1 core one Einstein). Since the last outage when I ran out work for SETI, Einstein is being starved for work so it can recover from this 'Debt'. Eistein is getting some work but is being run dry before it gets more work. Then I get 4 cores running Einstein for a while till it settles back down to 3 on SETI and 1 on Einstein.

I want my machine to run at my set preferences and if a project goes down then the other project can take up the strain, but as soon as the broken down project comes back on line, I want my m/c to revert to my set prefences.

It probably can be done by editing the 'client state' file but I don't want mess about this way.

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Message 980147 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 18:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 980139.  

How about be able to switch off or on Long and Short Term Debt. My computer is still recovering from the last outage. I run 2 projects SETI at 75% and Einstein at 25% (ie 3 cores on SETI and 1 core one Einstein). Since the last outage when I ran out work for SETI, Einstein is being starved for work so it can recover from this 'Debt'. Eistein is getting some work but is being run dry before it gets more work. Then I get 4 cores running Einstein for a while till it settles back down to 3 on SETI and 1 on Einstein.

I want my machine to run at my set preferences and if a project goes down then the other project can take up the strain, but as soon as the broken down project comes back on line, I want my m/c to revert to my set prefences.

It probably can be done by editing the 'client state' file but I don't want mess about this way.

There is an option to "zero out" your debts. You can find it in the manual. Also a feature in the new version that is being worked on lets you do just that, but setting a projects resource share to 0.
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Message 980197 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 20:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 979996.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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AFAIK these settings do not work if you run optimized apps.


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Message 980268 - Posted: 17 Mar 2010, 22:57:59 UTC - in response to Message 980197.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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AFAIK these settings do not work if you run optimized apps.

The original set (towards the bottom of the preferences page) didn't, but the current set - higher up, characterised by '(enforced by 6.10+ clients)' - do.

Provided you're running a 6.10.xx client, that is.
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Message 980585 - Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 18:57:33 UTC - in response to Message 980268.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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AFAIK these settings do not work if you run optimized apps.

The original set (towards the bottom of the preferences page) didn't, but the current set - higher up, characterised by '(enforced by 6.10+ clients)' - do.

Provided you're running a 6.10.xx client, that is.

No, it doesn't - at least not for me. I've set "Use CPU
(enforced by 6.10+ clients)" to "No" and I'm still getting CPU-WUs. (BOINC 6.10.18)

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Message 980593 - Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 19:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 980585.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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AFAIK these settings do not work if you run optimized apps.

The original set (towards the bottom of the preferences page) didn't, but the current set - higher up, characterised by '(enforced by 6.10+ clients)' - do.

Provided you're running a 6.10.xx client, that is.

No, it doesn't - at least not for me. I've set "Use CPU
(enforced by 6.10+ clients)" to "No" and I'm still getting CPU-WUs. (BOINC 6.10.18)

That's odd - I'll have to do some more testing (and checking back in the change logs to find out exactly when it was introduced - though I'm sure I remember it being active by v6.10.18).

Simple things first - this does work (now) by venue. You did double-check that the venue you set, and the venue for the host you're looking at, actually match?

If you enable [work_fetch_debug] logging - that's what I'll be checking - you should see "(blocked by prefs)" for SETI/CPU, and every SETI work fetch should be for a number of NVIDIA seconds, and 0.00 CPU seconds. If you get CPU work allocated in response to that sort of request, we need to let the developers know: but they'll only be convinced by logging evidence.

Meanwhile, no chance of testing CPU work fetch here for a while - still burning off left-over VLARs as fast as the CPUs can handle them. About 4 days still to go!
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Message 980624 - Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 20:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 980593.  

This can be done by going to your account page under seti preferences and either checking or not checking CPU or GPU.

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AFAIK these settings do not work if you run optimized apps.

The original set (towards the bottom of the preferences page) didn't, but the current set - higher up, characterised by '(enforced by 6.10+ clients)' - do.

Provided you're running a 6.10.xx client, that is.

No, it doesn't - at least not for me. I've set "Use CPU
(enforced by 6.10+ clients)" to "No" and I'm still getting CPU-WUs. (BOINC 6.10.18)

That's odd - I'll have to do some more testing (and checking back in the change logs to find out exactly when it was introduced - though I'm sure I remember it being active by v6.10.18).

Simple things first - this does work (now) by venue. You did double-check that the venue you set, and the venue for the host you're looking at, actually match?

If you enable [work_fetch_debug] logging - that's what I'll be checking - you should see "(blocked by prefs)" for SETI/CPU, and every SETI work fetch should be for a number of NVIDIA seconds, and 0.00 CPU seconds. If you get CPU work allocated in response to that sort of request, we need to let the developers know: but they'll only be convinced by logging evidence.

Meanwhile, no chance of testing CPU work fetch here for a while - still burning off left-over VLARs as fast as the CPUs can handle them. About 4 days still to go!

Mine is only asking for GPU work now, but a button would be nice.
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