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[quote]And with the endless requests by Microsoft's "UAC", most users develop a Pavlovian response to just 'click it away'. There is no such "UAC" or required clickiness in Linux. see, it is the users, not the os which is a problem, get it? about the linux, there is no users. | |
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[quote]And with the endless requests by Microsoft's "UAC", most users develop a Pavlovian response to just 'click it away'. There is no such "UAC" or required clickiness in Linux. So... The users that use Windows are the problem are they?... Microsoft Windows example: Let's [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] see... [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] Should [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] not [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] the [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] OS [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] be [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] friendly [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] for [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] the [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] users [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] to [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] easily [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] use? [UAC Alert Do you want to see this word? - Yes, No?] The example that is not Microsoft (no "UAC") is much easier and user friendly, yes? The Microsoft "UAC" must be one of the most not-user-friendly features ever to be so fiendishly imposed upon computer users. It certainly gives computing a very bad name! Interestingly, enough people use Linux that Microsoft have been trying to destroy Linux for the past few years... Regards, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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BTW I turned UAC off for the very reason you mention here. Its so overwhelming as to be unuseful | |
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An interesting snippet: | |
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mandriva is going to bankrupt, so brazil did not make very clever move, and we are talkin country where every tenth children can go to school. | |
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BTW I turned UAC off for the very reason you mention here. Its so overwhelming as to be unuseful put it back on, it is not like that ever. | |
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No I'd rather not have M$ dictating what and how I look at things | |
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mandriva is going to bankrupt, so brazil did not make very clever move, and we are talkin country where every tenth children can go to school. Mandriva has restructured and is backed by a big investor that will use Mandriva Linux instead of Microsoft. Note, the freedom of Linux allows that investor to easily (and openly) customise the Linux distro for their language and home country. They simply cannot do that with Microsoft. There is also now an alternative version of Mandriva Linux called Mageia that is just starting up. Such is the beauty of freedom. Or is it too scary to have a free choice? Using a Linux distro rather than Microsoft means that Brazil can afford x2 to x4 or more the number of PCs than that possible using Microsoft, assuming the usual Microsoft practices. That means hopefully that many more children will be educated better, faster. btw. clearly you are not used uac, since you are totally ignorant have it works. No, I do not use UAC. I use operating systems that do not need anything like Microsoft's UAC. And I fully understand what UAC does and means... Microsoft's UAC means that the operating system does not trust itself to start applications and so is insecure. Instead, the user must act as the security system for the operating system! No other operating system does that! Incredible. An analogy is that you ("UAC") must stand inside of the barn door to block any horses you do not want to leave. You also then have a second person stood outside the door to lasso any errant horses ("anti-virus") to drag them back in. Meanwhile, the barn (operating system) has all it's doors and windows wide open for illegal entry and exit. You and your friend must run around to guard against all eventualities. Silly? Regards, Martin ("Barn door" is part of a saying: "To close the barn door after the horse has bolted", meaning that you are too late to correct a mistake.) ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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On a more practical note: | |
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Working Tech Support---whenever I have a user w/ Vista or Win7 the first thing we do is turn UAC off to avoid the inteference it gives. | |
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would be better if you quit then, some tech support. | |
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I could see the conversation with clients if UAC were on. | |
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I could see the conversation with clients if UAC were on. That's exactly why we turn it off before we start our work--especially if we're remoting into the system. ____________   | |
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@ Aristoteles, and All, | |
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@ Aristoteles, and All, read, understud and now we discuss like civilized people again. to the topic. uac is for users protection, and should not be turned off, if people have problems with programs and uac, it is clearly because they are written badly and they need rights that any program should not need, in such cause people can use norton´s uac tool, that will help til companys will start to write their programs properly. see, it was easy. | |
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... uac is for users protection, and should not be turned off, "UAC" is unique to Microsoft. There are hundreds of operating systems. No other operating system has "UAC". The "bad writing and design" is in Microsoft Windows itself in that anti-virus and UAC are needed in the first place! Again, no other operating system suffers such silliness. I don't know of any other operating system that supports viruses and malware in the way that Microsoft does. But then again, Microsoft has generated a number of other industries that are highly profitable that attempt to make the Microsoft products more usable... (For the cost of additional costs for the users.) In my 'tech support' role, depending on circumstances, I also instruct that UAC, and Microsoft security BOTH be turned off. Otherwise, trying to work through whatever 'problem' just isn't practical. Unfortunately, they also need turning on again after the diagnosis and fix... And everything checked again to make sure things still work ok :-( There must be a better way to use computers! Regards, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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Generally the policy my company says is we can turn it off to perform troubleshooting but unless the user requests specifically not to, we will turn it back on at the end of our work. | |
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Wow! What about this for a case of Marketing distorted negative logic? | |
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Is this really the beginning of the end of the PC? | |
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The issue of Windows Vs Mac OS Vs Linux has been going on for many years. And it will continue to do so, because it is in the interests of computing Journalists to keep it on the boil, to keep them in jobs....... | |
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