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Message 973998 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 10:11:09 UTC
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Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.
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Message 973999 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 10:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 973998.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.


Two VERY good ideas. I have also posted in Q&A about raising the signature char limit. 250 is very small. How about 400?

One thing I'd want with the offline/online icon is the ability to "appear offline" - to the public you are offline, when you are really lurking or reading.

Implement it as a drop down menu of sorts:
"Show Current Status"
"Appear Offline"

- Luke.
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Message 974007 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 10:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 973999.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.


Two VERY good ideas. I have also posted in Q&A about raising the signature char limit. 250 is very small. How about 400?

One thing I'd want with the offline/online icon is the ability to "appear offline" - to the public you are offline, when you are really lurking or reading.

Implement it as a drop down menu of sorts:
"Show Current Status"
"Appear Offline"

- Luke.

I dunno about raising the char limit on the sigs.......some of them get pretty overbearing as it is with every post. Not mine, I hope.

And the 'online/offline' thingy at Lunatics is just s simple little icon next to the poster's sig. Nothing obtrusive. Just informative. It may be a little misleading for some, such as I, who keep a window open all the time (lurking)....but some folks do not do that.

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Message 974016 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:22:59 UTC - in response to Message 973998.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Would like that too. In general we could have here more functions, like in most other forums, smileys for example.
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Message 974018 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 974007.  

I dunno about raising the char limit on the sigs.......some of them get pretty overbearing as it is with every post. Not mine, I hope.

The first setting I changed when I came to these boards was "[x] Hide signatures" and sort order to 'Newest post first.' Been happy ever since ;)

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Message 974019 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:32:49 UTC - in response to Message 973998.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.


Good idea.You have my vote, just in case.
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Message 974021 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 974019.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.


Good idea.You have my vote, just in case.

Ya know...........

I guess it seems that I get a lot of popular response in the forums, just no action on it.
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Message 974023 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:43:03 UTC - in response to Message 974021.  

Ya know...........

I guess it seems that I get a lot of popular response in the forums, just no action on it.

The trouble is, the people who write the forum software ... never read what people write in their forums.

Never been able to get my head round that one.
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Message 974024 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:44:13 UTC - in response to Message 974021.  

Still want a 'sent' box in the PM's......

Have asked for this before. Here and in the Q and A forum...

Any response to this request?

Another nice thing would be a 'online' 'offline' icon like they have in the Lunatics site....

Whatever.......shouting to the wind, as usual, I suppose.


Good idea.You have my vote, just in case.

Ya know...........

I guess it seems that I get a lot of popular response in the forums, just no action on it.


Sorry Mark! I am not a programmer/software freak!!
But I can tell you all this in Spanish/German and maybe even Russian.

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Message 974025 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:48:17 UTC

And by some, I am just considered the 'whiskey drinking kitty man'
So be it.


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Message 974027 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 11:56:02 UTC - in response to Message 974023.  

Ya know...........

I guess it seems that I get a lot of popular response in the forums, just no action on it.

The trouble is, the people who write the forum software ... never read what people write in their forums.

Never been able to get my head round that one.

Is it not possible to change the forum software to some other one that is more modern?
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Message 974029 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 12:06:37 UTC - in response to Message 974025.  

And by some, I am just considered the 'whiskey drinking kitty man'
So be it.



Well, honestly speaking, it is mostly up to you.
You are the master of your destiny, more or less. No one else can interfere in your life/decisions because you decide what to do and when. I would not take seriously every comment posted here because it makes no sense.
You know? The rules of Physics apply to everyone the same way, no matter where you are and who you are in this universe. It is again up to you to take one path or another.
The most important thing is that you feel comfortable with this situation and happy (without annoying/making/creating too much problems!!!) lol
I guess a good definition might be:
"Your freedom/happyness ends where the freedom of your neighbor begins/reaches".
Back on topic:
Eric [Korpela], you have a new challenge here for improving the features of the boards!!!
Cheers!

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Message 974032 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 12:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 974029.  

Eric [Korpela], you have a new challenge here for improving the features of the boards!!!
Cheers!

Eric, to be fair, does read the boards - though he doesn't have time to do it as often as we (and, I suspect, he) would like.

But he doesn't write the forum software. That would be David Anderson's department (plus whatever volunteers he can recruit).
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Message 974034 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 12:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 974032.  

Eric [Korpela], you have a new challenge here for improving the features of the boards!!!
Cheers!

Eric, to be fair, does read the boards - though he doesn't have time to do it as often as we (and, I suspect, he) would like.

But he doesn't write the forum software. That would be David Anderson's department (plus whatever volunteers he can recruit).


Thanks for clarifying this issue.It is good to know who has the authority over this to deal with.
David Anderson: the hot potatoe has now landed over your roof!! LOL

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Message 974048 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 14:54:11 UTC
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Thanks, Dirk, for ridiculing an honest request.......
Just because I am honest about my reasons.

I withdraw now...Dirk.

Does Your Mother Know? Meow.
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Message 974080 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 16:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 974034.  

Eric [Korpela], you have a new challenge here for improving the features of the boards!!!
Cheers!

Eric, to be fair, does read the boards - though he doesn't have time to do it as often as we (and, I suspect, he) would like.

But he doesn't write the forum software. That would be David Anderson's department (plus whatever volunteers he can recruit).


Thanks for clarifying this issue.It is good to know who has the authority over this to deal with.
David Anderson: the hot potatoe has now landed over your roof!! LOL

"Authority" is the wrong word.

Adding features to the BOINC software, regardless of which part of the BOINC software we're talking about, is work.

... and it's not five minutes of work.

... and it has to be tested.

It is a lot of effort, and it is time that doesn't go into improving the scheduler, or figuring out why the BOINC client switches tasks at unusual times, or a few dozen other things that members here want.

The offset is: like the rest of BOINC, the forums are open source. If someone wants these features enough and has the skills, they can add them, present the changes to BOINC, and they'll very likely be checked in and made available as part of the standard project.

But it is very easy to criticize someone for their inaction if you think adding an outbox is a five minute task.
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Message 974125 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 19:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 974080.  

Eric [Korpela], you have a new challenge here for improving the features of the boards!!!
Cheers!

Eric, to be fair, does read the boards - though he doesn't have time to do it as often as we (and, I suspect, he) would like.

But he doesn't write the forum software. That would be David Anderson's department (plus whatever volunteers he can recruit).


Thanks for clarifying this issue.It is good to know who has the authority over this to deal with.
David Anderson: the hot potatoe has now landed over your roof!! LOL

"Authority" is the wrong word.

Adding features to the BOINC software, regardless of which part of the BOINC software we're talking about, is work.

... and it's not five minutes of work.

... and it has to be tested.

It is a lot of effort, and it is time that doesn't go into improving the scheduler, or figuring out why the BOINC client switches tasks at unusual times, or a few dozen other things that members here want.

The offset is: like the rest of BOINC, the forums are open source. If someone wants these features enough and has the skills, they can add them, present the changes to BOINC, and they'll very likely be checked in and made available as part of the standard project.

But it is very easy to criticize someone for their inaction if you think adding an outbox is a five minute task.

But.........Ned.......

The question was......if you recall.........Does your MOTHER KNOW?

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Message 974135 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 19:41:03 UTC

David Anderson several months ago stated an intention to transition to Drupal for all the web stuff. The core distribution includes forum software, contributed modules are available which extend or maybe even replace that. What's probably needed is someone with the skills and enough interest to actually do some work in that area.
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Message 974142 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 19:54:15 UTC - in response to Message 974135.  
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David Anderson several months ago stated an intention to transition to Drupal for all the web stuff. The core distribution includes forum software, contributed modules are available which extend or maybe even replace that. What's probably needed is someone with the skills and enough interest to actually do some work in that area.
                                                              Joe


Drupal has alot of security vulnerabilites. I know a iPhone dev's website, Critical Thought Games, was completely hacked because he used Drupal. Here is what David (creator of GeoDefense, GeoDefense Swarm & GeoSpark - CEO of Critical Thought Games) had to say about it.

Yeah. I have a real love/hate thing with open source.

Oh, not the idea of it, that I unequivocally love. But the reality of it can sometimes be another matter.

I use open source, don't get me wrong. I've released stuff into open source. And like the internet itself, when it's used for good... it's great. When it's used for evil... it's EVIL.

This site, for example, runs on Drupal. And Drupal is open source, and it has vulnerabilities. These get patched, but the act of patching sets of this nice little cascade:

1. Drupal announces patches to fix security problems
2. Hacks look at what was fixed (readme + diff of source) and figure out exploits with little effort required
3. Software scans Google looking for Drupal sites and then auto-hacks each one it finds

This all happens moments after a security patch is released. And before poor site operators can react to it. This site was one to get hit, and not only was a phishing exploit installed on it, but Google detected it and (helpfully or not) blacklisted Critical Thought Games as a phishing site.

Sigh.

Naturally I've corrected the problem, and requested they remove me from their list... but I have no idea how long that'll take. In the meantime, anyone coming to my site will be told I'm a big fat security risk. In the sense I use Drupal (or anything like it), I guess tht would be generally true.

But it's only true because of open source. The argument is that Open Source projects would be more secure because you have more eyes looking at the code. That theory is not backed up by the realities on the ground. The realities on the ground is that Open Source platforms get used a lot, and that means that a single exploit can be leveraged into hacking hell of a lot of sites in one go. Whereas a site that is all proprietary code means that exploiting it is probably a one-shot deal for the hacker. The laws of economics are at work here. Unless that one site is big, like a Amazon or something, it's not worth messing the effort relative to a sweeping hack of all one-rev behind Drupal, Joomla or whatever sites.

Open Source, in practice, can sometimes really suck. But since I knew this was a possibility going in, I can't claim it was anyone's fault by my own.

- Luke.
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Message 974148 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 20:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 974142.  

David Anderson several months ago stated an intention to transition to Drupal for all the web stuff. The core distribution includes forum software, contributed modules are available which extend or maybe even replace that. What's probably needed is someone with the skills and enough interest to actually do some work in that area.
                                                              Joe


Drupal has alot of security vulnerabilites. I know a iPhone dev's website, Critical Thought Games, was completely hacked because he used Drupal. Here is what David (creator of GeoDefense, GeoDefense Swarm & GeoSpark - CEO of Critical Thought Games) had to say about it.

The problem with any widely used open source project is that once you know how to hack one Drupal site, you know how to hack every Drupal site.

... and if a component that someone else wrote is used in Drupal and other open-source frameworks, then all of them are vulnerable.

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