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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973675 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 7:39:21 UTC
	Wouldn't you know it.... Just when things were looking up again, it would appear that I have lost the hard drive in the Frozen Nehi. It had reported all it's completed work, had downloaded some new Cuda tasks when I left for work this morning, and was starting to chew away on them. Rebooted a few times, and the IDE buss was locking up. Thought it might have been the mobo, but tossed in a spare drive I have, and it booted and bios found that one. Put the old one back in place, and the bios won't find it. I'll have to decide if I want to try the old trick of subbing the control board from the new drive onto the old one and see if I get lucky, or just put in the new drive and start from scratch.... More sighs from the kitties.... Meowwwwwwww. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 744 Credit: 62,497,119 RAC: 46,813	Message 973677 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 7:47:27 UTC
	Soemhow, "Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!" seems more approppriate than "Meowwwwwww". ____________
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Jack Zhang Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Jul 06 Posts: 206 Credit: 5,604,401 RAC: 288	Message 973679 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 7:49:36 UTC
	First, get the new controller, then get Spinrite to rescue the data and move it to a new drive. ____________ What if Fiction was Fact and Fact was Fiction and vice versa?
	ID: 973679 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973682 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:03:16 UTC
	I put the little cockroach in the freezer for about 20 minutes, and then when I booted, I could hear a faint click from the drive every 3 or 4 seconds... Does not look good. And I really did not expect this....it's a Seagate ES series drive. Now that it's warmed back up to room temperature, I can head a faint click click raspy raspy click click if I put me ear right up to it. I think it's a goner. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 973682 ·

Xen Send message Joined: 22 Jul 00 Posts: 86 Credit: 1,602,692 RAC: 567	Message 973683 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:04:53 UTC
	I feel your pain! I've had this happen to myself from time to time ::tosses some goodluck catnip to the kitties:: ____________ Nobody is nobody. Everyone has something to offer
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973684 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 973677.
	Soemhow, "Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!" seems more approppriate than "Meowwwwwww". Actually, I have been become a little infamous for using a number of off color terms too liberally on the forums.... Trying to refrain. LOL. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 973684 ·

Xen Send message Joined: 22 Jul 00 Posts: 86 Credit: 1,602,692 RAC: 567	Message 973685 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 973684.
	Soemhow, "Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!" seems more approppriate than "Meowwwwwww". Actually, I have been become a little infamous for using a number of off color terms too liberally on the forums.... Trying to refrain. LOL. I must chuckle @ this it's MY only way to cope w/bad things sir =) ____________ Nobody is nobody. Everyone has something to offer
	ID: 973685 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973689 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:41:18 UTC Last modified: 25 Feb 2010, 8:42:03 UTC
	Maybe I'll just have to try to put a positive spin on it and pretend I am building a brand new rig!! Yeah....that's it!! Right.......LOL. I don't think swapping the control board is gonna save this one. But maybe...the platters are spinning up. I dunno....just pissed right now. Gonna go to bed before I toss the thing out the front door. I will probably order a couple of new drives air freight for Friday in case I DO decide to try the board swap and end up with two dead drives. Looks like....'sorry wingys'. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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Ianab Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Jun 08 Posts: 568 Credit: 9,403,396 RAC: 13,545	Message 973692 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:47:50 UTC - in response to Message 973689.
	"I could hear a faint click from the drive every 3 or 4 seconds..." It's a paperweight... Or a new fridge magnet, a shiny window decoration, and 25c of aluminium at the metal recyle depot. Ian
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MarkJ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 916 Credit: 14,877,947 RAC: 11,361	Message 973729 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:39:41 UTC - in response to Message 973689.
	Maybe I'll just have to try to put a positive spin on it and pretend I am building a brand new rig!! Yeah....that's it!! Right.......LOL. Well you can upgrade to a 1, 1.5 or 2Tb drive. An excuse for a bigger/faster drive. Raid setup perhaps? Well you did want a positive spin on it. LOL ____________ BOINC blog
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Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 854 Credit: 20,384,563 RAC: 3,593	Message 973738 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 13:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 973689.
	Gonna go to bed before I toss the thing out the front door. Don't do that! (toss it) The way things are going around here lately, you'll probably hit a passing Police car!! lol Martin
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phud Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1319 Credit: 34,994,877 RAC: 13	Message 973758 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 14:57:51 UTC
	in heaven George Carlin will give you permission for the words you really want to use...lol ____________
	ID: 973758 ·

[KWSN]John Galt 007 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 2439 Credit: 16,594,037 RAC: 0	Message 973767 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 15:28:40 UTC
	Mark...feel your pain...some intelligent person hit a pole 2 nights ago in the snow...came to work and the work pharm was down, electricity went out about 7:30 PM for 40 minutes...restarted the pharm and my Q9450 HD was making an awful racket and wouldn't boot....let it spin up and warm up (it was about 50F in the back of the shop) and it came back alive... If it happens again I am going to paperweight it and install x64 on that rig... ____________ Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973769 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 15:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 973767.
	Mark...feel your pain...some intelligent person hit a pole 2 nights ago in the snow...came to work and the work pharm was down, electricity went out about 7:30 PM for 40 minutes...restarted the pharm and my Q9450 HD was making an awful racket and wouldn't boot....let it spin up and warm up (it was about 50F in the back of the shop) and it came back alive... If it happens again I am going to paperweight it and install x64 on that rig... Backup anything you wanna save NOW...LOL. I need to learn about RAID setups. How many drives do I need to retain all data if one dies? Do they all need to be identical drives? Can I convert a current single drive setup (as in my daily driver) to a RAID config without reloading everything? As the Frozen Nehi's HD apparently is a brick, I'll probably try to get it going this weekend from scratch with the new spare I have.... But I should look into RAID going forward. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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Andy Worth Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5596 Credit: 10,198,888 RAC: 1,537	Message 973787 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 16:12:37 UTC - in response to Message 973682.
	Now that it's warmed back up to room temperature, I can head a faint click click raspy raspy click click if I put me ear right up to it. That's a noise I got fed up of hearing myself, so I went raid mirror - and ironically haven't had a drive fail since LOL. It's almost as if it's laughing at me for spending the extra money raiding. If I hadn't done it though, you can bet the drive would have failed by now! ____________
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3297 Credit: 78,567,200 RAC: 60,736	Message 973789 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 16:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 973787.
	Now that it's warmed back up to room temperature, I can head a faint click click raspy raspy click click if I put me ear right up to it. That's a noise I got fed up of hearing myself, so I went raid mirror - and ironically haven't had a drive fail since LOL. It's almost as if it's laughing at me for spending the extra money raiding. If I hadn't done it though, you can bet the drive would have failed by now! For my personal machines I have used RAID0 since whenever 60GB drives were "a big drive" & never had one fail while in this configuration. ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
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1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 973801 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 17:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 973769.
	I need to learn about RAID setups. How many drives do I need to retain all data if one dies? I know this is a contrarian view, but I see a high correlation between RAID systems and drive failures. Maybe it's just the idea that having five or six drives makes them more likely to fail. ... and I've had far more instances where I needed an old file back than the copy that would be faithfully reproduced across the RAID (even RAID 1). What I tend to do instead is replicate important directories (or even complete drives) onto other drives on other systems. That's particularly interesting for what you do Mark, because all you really need is the BOINC data directory to resurrect a machine on a new HD. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973819 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 18:07:51 UTC
	Well... First things first...I gotta get the Frozen Nehi back up and crunching...and it's gonna be a long process. But first I have a quandary. I have two copies of XP x64. And I have forgotten which one was loaded on the Nehi and which one was loaded on the 920 rig. Is there a place in XP on the 920 rig that I can view the key that was used for that install so I don't try to reuse that copy? ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34720 Credit: 355,416,114 RAC: 375,275	Message 973831 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 18:37:56 UTC
	Found it with the Magic Jelly Bean keyfinder. Now I know which copy is which. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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phud Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1319 Credit: 34,994,877 RAC: 13	Message 973834 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 18:46:16 UTC
	"Found it with the Magic Jelly Bean keyfinder." Vince Schlomo does the commercials for that right? "you're gonna love my jellybeans..." ____________
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