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Message 977694 - Posted: 12 Mar 2010, 14:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 977501.

MEEP MEEEP

the splitters have failed.

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?


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Message 977736 - Posted: 12 Mar 2010, 16:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 977694.
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MEEP MEEEP

the splitters have failed.

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?

Is There Anybody Out There?



It's not that the splitters have failed, it's that there's nothing for them to work on - and I'm wondering about that... have we used up all of SETI's "banked" data? Is Aracibo shut down again? Did someone forget to "hang a tape/some tapes"? :-)

Try looking here before posting!
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Message 977924 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 1:20:21 UTC - in response to Message 977736.
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Try looking here before posting!


and if you would have looked 2.5 hours sooner, you would have seen the same thing as me, lots of RED.

you might choose to look at it as they are out of work to split, me FAILED.
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Message 978177 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 14:21:02 UTC
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and now....
no upload, no download, no update....
and no news from Seti Team

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Message 978186 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 14:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 978177.

So what happened to the posts from Matt or Eric? Did the guys quit on us? Its been almost a month since Matt's last post.
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Message 978191 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 15:06:27 UTC - in response to Message 978186.

So what happened to the posts from Matt or Eric? Did the guys quit on us? Its been almost a month since Matt's last post.

How about you having a look in the SETI@home Staff Blog?

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Message 978193 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 15:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 978186.
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See Where's Matt? in the SETI@home Staff Blog.

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[edit]Wow, only twenty seconds difference ;-)[/edit]

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Message 978198 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 15:28:43 UTC

Bad luck? Or no luck at all? It appears there are back-to-back problems with SETI lately.

After I exhaust the WU's on my main cruncher I may do MilkyWay for a while... 'til SETI is up and running well again.

<sigh> But I really do like SETI.


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Message 978222 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 16:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 977924.

Try looking here before posting!


and if you would have looked 2.5 hours sooner, you would have seen the same thing as me, lots of RED.

you might choose to look at it as they are out of work to split, me FAILED.


There was still a lot of red (in the splitters area...) when I looked... but red for a splitter means that that splitter ran out of work, or has otherwise failed: to see which, see the right-hand column, labeled "Splitter Status" - if there's only one "tape" shown there, (as was the case when I looked Friday morning) then work has run out!

BTW, the red "Not running" means (according to the definition below the "server Status" column) "Program failed or ran out of work" - with splitters, the second condition is most commonly the case...

Dittoing the others that are having problems uploading, reporting, and getting new work...
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Message 978231 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 16:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 978222.

Results ready to send 54,476 (much more than last days)
Results received in last hour 6,037 (about 10% of the normal number)
Results returned and awaiting validation 5,808,203 (much more than normal number)
Workunits waiting for assimilation 550,799 (highest number than usual)

[As of 13 Mar 2010 15:50:19 UTC]

I think this is the same router problem we have seen last end of february...
Has someone try to pathping the router?

In server status page we have the same situation of the last outage...

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Message 978279 - Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 18:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 978231.

Hi!

Pathping from Poland:

c:\Download>pathping -n 128.32.18.150 -w 100000 Śledzenie trasy do 128.32.18.150 z maksymalną liczbą 30 przeskoków. 0 10.115.69.176 1 10.9.216.1 2 10.9.216.2 3 10.9.221.5 4 10.9.220.253 5 213.158.195.53 6 213.158.198.198 7 213.248.89.153 8 80.91.250.40 9 80.91.249.151 10 80.91.253.45 11 80.91.253.154 12 213.244.165.249 13 4.69.139.161 14 4.69.132.133 15 4.69.137.78 16 4.69.134.74 17 4.69.134.121 18 4.69.135.185 19 4.69.134.242 20 4.68.18.3 21 4.53.16.186 22 137.164.24.106 23 128.32.0.58 24 128.32.255.110 25 * * * Wyliczanie statystyk dla 600 sekund... Źródło Ten węzeł/Łącze Przeskok RTT Zgubione/wysłane = Pct Zgubione/wysłane = adres Pct 0 10.115.69.176 2/ 100 = 2% | 1 331ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 10.9.216.1 0/ 100 = 0% | 2 321ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 10.9.216.2 0/ 100 = 0% | 3 328ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 10.9.221.5 0/ 100 = 0% | 4 341ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 10.9.220.253 0/ 100 = 0% | 5 351ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 213.158.195.53 0/ 100 = 0% | 6 346ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 213.158.198.198 0/ 100 = 0% | 7 373ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 213.248.89.153 0/ 100 = 0% | 8 392ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 80.91.250.40 0/ 100 = 0% | 9 382ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 80.91.249.151 0/ 100 = 0% | 10 383ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 80.91.253.45 0/ 100 = 0% | 11 400ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 80.91.253.154 0/ 100 = 0% | 12 --- 100/ 100 =100% 98/ 100 = 98% 213.244.165.249 0/ 100 = 0% | 13 369ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 4.69.139.161 0/ 100 = 0% | 14 391ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 4.69.132.133 0/ 100 = 0% | 15 479ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 4.69.137.78 0/ 100 = 0% | 16 466ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 4.69.134.74 0/ 100 = 0% | 17 481ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 4.69.134.121 0/ 100 = 0% | 18 550ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 4.69.135.185 0/ 100 = 0% | 19 534ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 4.69.134.242 0/ 100 = 0% | 20 --- 100/ 100 =100% 98/ 100 = 98% 4.68.18.3 0/ 100 = 0% | 21 517ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 4.53.16.186 0/ 100 = 0% | 22 517ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 137.164.24.106 0/ 100 = 0% | 23 505ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 128.32.0.58 0/ 100 = 0% | 24 512ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% 128.32.255.110 Śledzenie zakończone. c:\Download>


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Message 978398 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 0:01:04 UTC

Uploading results, downloading new work units and even updating one's project has become such a mission that one is forced to suggest shutting the project down until it can be made to work reliably at least some of the time. While I do appreciate the efforts of the project leaders, let us not forget that the contributors to the project are the ones who are paying to make it run through increased electricity bills - something we are no doubt happy to do, but I think users would be happier contributing to a project that actually works more often than not and bears some fruit.
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Message 978411 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 0:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 978398.

Uploading results, downloading new work units and even updating one's project has become such a mission that one is forced to suggest shutting the project down until it can be made to work reliably at least some of the time. While I do appreciate the efforts of the project leaders, let us not forget that the contributors to the project are the ones who are paying to make it run through increased electricity bills - something we are no doubt happy to do, but I think users would be happier contributing to a project that actually works more often than not and bears some fruit.


To which more damage to the project might happen if it were to close down since things more than likely won't change. To make the project more reliable, you'd need more hardware and more manpower thrown at the problem, both of which costs money. Since the project has neither, it won't be any better after it's shut down.

Further, if users are unhappy about paying their electric bill for a distributed computing project that is having problems, there are two answers to rectify the situation more realistically: 1) join another project to keep those CPUs busy and thus not "waste" any electricity or failing that 2) accept that the project is doing the best they can and there will be periods of understandable and unavoidable downtime given the resources they have, and simply accept that if you don't have any work, your wasted electric bill is on you given the 1st option.
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Message 978491 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 5:45:17 UTC - in response to Message 978411.

Uploading results, downloading new work units and even updating one's project has become such a mission that one is forced to suggest shutting the project down until it can be made to work reliably at least some of the time. While I do appreciate the efforts of the project leaders, let us not forget that the contributors to the project are the ones who are paying to make it run through increased electricity bills - something we are no doubt happy to do, but I think users would be happier contributing to a project that actually works more often than not and bears some fruit.


To which more damage to the project might happen if it were to close down since things more than likely won't change. To make the project more reliable, you'd need more hardware and more manpower thrown at the problem, both of which costs money. Since the project has neither, it won't be any better after it's shut down.

Further, if users are unhappy about paying their electric bill for a distributed computing project that is having problems, there are two answers to rectify the situation more realistically: 1) join another project to keep those CPUs busy and thus not "waste" any electricity or failing that 2) accept that the project is doing the best they can and there will be periods of understandable and unavoidable downtime given the resources they have, and simply accept that if you don't have any work, your wasted electric bill is on you given the 1st option.

You forgot #3: Send some cash to keep the lights on.
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Message 978580 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 12:15:25 UTC

Good Morning,

I find it very interesting reading the messages this am (14 Mar 10).
They seem to indicate problems (perhaps personal and maybe "panicky"-if there is such a term) with uploading completed work. And yet, I see no condenscending/patronizing response from staff members or member as it were.

Abundant thanks to that person who gave instruction on how to reach the Q & A
Section. As previously stated, it was most helpful.

From my reading of the posts this am, I can safely ascertain that I am not the only one dealing with "upload" problems.

Have A Blessed Day,

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Message 978615 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 14:07:55 UTC - in response to Message 978580.

Uploads in queue here also since last night, at least now I'm sure its not my fault

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Message 978616 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 14:21:35 UTC - in response to Message 978222.

[quote]...with splitters, the second condition is most commonly the case...[quote]

this project is failed more times then not lately. it wouldn't be such a problem if the bonic client was coded proporly, yes u heard me the bonic client is all f#%@ up. it doesn't request the right amount of work for the cpu or gpu, and then sometimes it gorges!

looks like the project completly went off line last night at 24:00, humm...
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Message 978633 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 15:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 978616.

looks like the project completely went off line last night at 24:00, humm...


Exactly at midnight GMT? Perhaps some obscure problem related to Daylight Savings Time starting early this year in the USA?

{Pure conjecture....}
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Message 978647 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 15:23:58 UTC - in response to Message 978633.

looks like the project completely went off line last night at 24:00, humm...


Exactly at midnight GMT? Perhaps some obscure problem related to Daylight Savings Time starting early this year in the USA?

{Pure conjecture....}



No, it was midnight, PST (-8 then, -7 now with DST)

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Message 978679 - Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 16:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 978616.
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it doesn't request the right amount of work for the cpu or gpu, and then sometimes it gorges!


What version of BOINC are you using?

I'd certainly have to agree with ^^ statement. And the problem seems to be in the 6.10.xx series, after 6.10.18. At least for me.

With 7 GPU's running in one cruncher (not using CPU's to crunch)... I usually kept about 3,000 work units in the queue. One morning I awoke to find almost 6,000 WU's in the queue. And I had the "Addtional Work Buffer" set to only 5.95 days.

That was in BOINC 6.10.36. It suddenly gorged overnight. I dropped back to 6.10.29 just an hour before the latest SETI problems started so I have no idea if 6.10.29 will handle the work queue right.
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