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Message 972048 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 972045.

is there anyway to encript the transactions so they aren't blocked???

I have no idea, Eric and company might be able to answer that, So We'll just have to stay tuned to this Wabbit Channel. :D
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Message 972052 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:26:32 UTC

WHERE ARE THE FISH????????????????????????????
Meow.
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Message 972057 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 972052.

WHERE ARE THE FISH????????????????????????????
Meow.

Hung up somewhere over the rainbow I'd imagine, Somewhere between Berkeley and Oz. :D
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Message 972058 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 972052.

WHERE ARE THE FISH????????????????????????????
Meow.

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Message 972062 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:39:18 UTC - in response to Message 971933.

... One of the raid arrays on thumper lost a drive...


you guys seem to loose way to many drives! how many do you have?



anybody got work?

Yes, all my machines are uploading, reporting, & downloading work in a fashion that is reminiscent of a backlog. Some results upload, some fail, backoff kicks in, results uploads after backoff expires, or they don't and it tries again.

Just glancing at the bandwidth chart. It shows that whatever issue was going on didn't really recover until the 18th between 9-10am. So having to recover from an extend outage/slow traffic of about 3 days, along with there being a meltdown in the sever closet, & some server drives going out. I think the recovery is going along nicely.
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Message 972064 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 5:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 972062.
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... One of the raid arrays on thumper lost a drive...


you guys seem to loose way to many drives! how many do you have?



anybody got work?

Yes, all my machines are uploading, reporting, & downloading work in a fashion that is reminiscent of a backlog. Some results upload, some fail, backoff kicks in, results uploads after backoff expires, or they don't and it tries again.

Just glancing at the bandwidth chart. It shows that whatever issue was going on didn't really recover until the 18th between 9-10am. So having to recover from an extend outage/slow traffic of about 3 days, along with there being a meltdown in the sever closet, & some server drives going out. I think the recovery is going along nicely.

What's currently going on isn't caused by the outage Hal and Eric knows It and has said so.
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Message 972086 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 6:07:08 UTC - in response to Message 972064.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Eric>pathping 208.68.240.16 bonic2.ssl.berkeley.edu Unable to resolve target system name bonic2.ssl.berkeley.edu. C:\Users\Eric>pathping 208.68.240.16 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu Tracing route to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18] over a maximum of 30 hops: 0 DV7-1023CL [66.182.x.x] 1 cab1-1.1scom.net [66.182.192.1] 2 DSL2-25.1scom.net [66.182.213.25] 3 Texas-Independent-Energy6328-custidna.cust-rtr.swbell.net [151.164.76.189] 4 bb2-p7-1.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.190.248] 5 ppp-151-164-52-74.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.52.74] 6 asn6939-he.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.89.34] 7 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92.57] 8 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.21] 9 64.71.140.42 10 208.68.243.254 11 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18] Computing statistics for 275 seconds... Source to Here This Node/Link Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address 0 DV7-1023CL [66.182.x.x] 0/ 100 = 0% | 1 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% cab1-1.1scom.net [66.182.192.1] 0/ 100 = 0% | 2 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% DSL2-25.1scom.net [66.182.213.25] 0/ 100 = 0% | 3 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Texas-Independent-Energy6328-custidna.cust-rtr.swbell.net [151.164.76.189] 0/ 100 = 0% | 4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% bb2-p7-1.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.190.248] 0/ 100 = 0% | 5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ppp-151-164-52-74.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.52.74] 0/ 100 = 0% | 6 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% asn6939-he.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.89.34] 0/ 100 = 0% | 7 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92.57] 0/ 100 = 0% | 8 57ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.21] 0/ 100 = 0% | 9 59ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 64.71.140.42 8/ 100 = 8% | 10 63ms 8/ 100 = 8% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.68.243.254 6/ 100 = 6% | 11 63ms 14/ 100 = 14% 0/ 100 = 0% boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18] Trace complete. C:\Users\Eric>


i tried from my laptop directly connected to my freshly rebooted modem, no change. i wonder if something has been changed on the WWW...

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Message 972110 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 6:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 972058.

WHERE ARE THE FISH????????????????????????????
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here.

Thanks Ned........a little injection of humor always helps.

Really.
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Message 972112 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 6:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 972086.



i tried from my laptop directly connected to my freshly rebooted modem, no change. i wonder if something has been changed on the WWW...

Yes.....something has changed. The dog don't hunt no more.

And the kitties can't find their fish.
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Message 972140 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 7:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 972112.


And the kitties can't find their fish.

just open the door, wabbit is good! yumm;P
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Message 972147 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 8:04:30 UTC

My pings from Australia get NO response! :(

I have a machine which has spent almost a week trying to connect. Again :(

So... If you have connected in recent days, "kwitchawinjin!" [Quit your winging!]
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Message 972148 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 8:06:44 UTC - in response to Message 972147.

That should read "whinging" (aka whining, pining, meowing, etc)
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Message 972155 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 8:51:02 UTC
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I have about 2000 run unit to upload and zero work in one host.
Also in the zero job host I see that is "not requesting new tasks" (!!)

using pathping I see the same situation of others (100% lost in some hop) so I don't add my data.
Instead I think that this trace (from switzerland to Berleley) can be interesting



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Message 972159 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 8:56:01 UTC
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My effort from Central Australia

Tracing route to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

<snip>

All ping times within tolerance and zero packet loss till it gets to here

12 271ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% 10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92.121] 0/ 100 = 0%

13 285ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.21] 0/ 100 = 0%

14 285ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 64.71.140.42 8/ 100 = 8%

15 278ms 8/ 100 = 8% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.68.243.254 1/ 100 = 1%

16 281ms 9/ 100 = 9% 0/ 100 = 0% boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18]

Trace complete.

The coresite.com switch must be set to silent, it doesn't respond to a straight ping test either.

Maybe the traffic for SAH is clogging the upstream switching as well ?

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Message 972170 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 9:35:52 UTC

Just one idea.
Recently I have read about a big hacker attack and may be a lot defense policies have been implemented in some hops.
Maybe some of them are disturbing seti traffic.

Hy
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Message 972179 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 10:21:59 UTC
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Looks like something is moving out there in the ether. The 56 wu's I have been trying to report all week have all reported OK, but can't get any new work.

Hurrah - new work
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Message 972195 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 11:32:30 UTC - in response to Message 972179.
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Looks like something is moving out there in the ether. The 56 wu's I have been trying to report all week have all reported OK, but can't get any new work.

Hurrah - new work

Not here:

20.02.2010 12:26:28 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
20.02.2010 12:26:28 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 13dc06ac.11083.9888.6.10.185_0_0: HTTP error
20.02.2010 12:26:28 SETI@home Backing off 3 hr 4 min 7 sec on upload of 13dc06ac.11083.9888.6.10.185_0_0
20.02.2010 12:26:31 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
20.02.2010 12:27:02 SETI@home update requested by user
20.02.2010 12:27:06 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
20.02.2010 12:27:06 SETI@home Reporting 9 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
20.02.2010 12:27:28 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
20.02.2010 12:27:29 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
20.02.2010 12:27:31 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server

The Cricket graph is showing something like himalaya skyline:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d%3Aw%3Am%3Ay
Bye
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Message 972211 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 12:46:51 UTC
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I was able to Update this morning here, but still have ~50 uploads pending in the queue. Some uploads must be trickling through from time to time. Curiously, no new work was requested! I don't really understand that.

I'm still seeing some losses on the west coast (only).

10 88ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 64.71.140.42
6/ 100 = 6% |
11 96ms 6/ 100 = 6% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.68.243.254
7/ 100 = 7% |
12 88ms 13/ 100 = 13% 0/ 100 = 0% boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18]

Trace complete.

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Nevermind, the light came on - uploads pending = no downloads. ok...

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Message 972217 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 13:19:42 UTC

This is the longest time that uploads/updates have continuously failed/backed-off for this project I have ever seen. The problem did start before the A/C outage. (Just an observation.)

Many thanks, and good luck, to those in charge, dealing with the frustrations of modern computers.

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Message 972218 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 13:21:14 UTC - in response to Message 972211.
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Boinc won't ask for work from a project, if the the number of uploads for that project exceeds twice the number of CPU cores,
so until you're down to a handfull of uploads, you'll get no downloads from Seti,
But you can still get work from other projects.

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