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![]() Volunteer tester ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Just in case Matt peeks in here, I just shut down connected client, shut down BOINC Manager, and started BM again. this is what the messages had to say.... 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.18 for windows_intelx86 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, dcf_debug 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Running under account perry 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1400 @ 2.00GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13] 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Processor: 512.00 KB cache 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni mmx 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00) 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Memory: 3.25 GB physical, 6.73 GB virtual 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Disk: 288.09 GB total, 203.33 GB free 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Local time is UTC -5 hours 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 19562, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 1.1, 1024MB, 118 GFLOPS peak) 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Not using a proxy 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4731257; resource share 100 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 07-Oct-2009 09:35:45) 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home Computer location: home 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM General prefs: using separate prefs for home 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Reading preferences override file 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1663.16MB 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2993.69MB 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM Preferences limit disk usage to 100.00GB 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home Restarting task 12fe07ac.17631.4164.15.10.165_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home Restarting task 12fe07ac.17631.4164.15.10.152_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 2/19/2010 11:21:59 AM SETI@home Restarting task 12fe07ac.17631.4164.15.10.151_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 608 2/19/2010 11:22:34 AM SETI@home Fetching scheduler list 2/19/2010 11:22:39 AM SETI@home Master file download succeeded 2/19/2010 11:22:45 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 2/19/2010 11:22:45 AM SETI@home Reporting 20 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU 2/19/2010 11:23:07 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 2/19/2010 11:23:08 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 2/19/2010 11:23:10 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 2/19/2010 11:24:10 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 2/19/2010 11:24:10 AM SETI@home Reporting 20 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU 2/19/2010 11:24:53 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 2/19/2010 11:24:55 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 2/19/2010 11:24:55 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Failure when receiving data from the peer 2/19/2010 11:25:55 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 2/19/2010 11:25:55 AM SETI@home Reporting 20 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU 2/19/2010 11:26:17 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 2/19/2010 11:26:18 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 2/19/2010 11:26:20 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 2/19/2010 11:27:20 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 2/19/2010 11:27:20 AM SETI@home Reporting 20 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU 2/19/2010 11:27:42 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 2/19/2010 11:27:43 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 2/19/2010 11:27:45 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 2/19/2010 11:28:45 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 2/19/2010 11:28:45 AM SETI@home Reporting 20 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU 2/19/2010 11:29:07 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 2/19/2010 11:29:08 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 2/19/2010 11:29:10 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server Maybe that will give them a hint as to what we are seeing. ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Jahslave Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 2 Credit: 799,867 RAC: 1,653 ![]() ![]() |
Have been unable to upload results or download new work units for several days. Have tried reseting to no avail. Any idea when this issue will be resolved? [/quote][/code] |
Jahslave Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 2 Credit: 799,867 RAC: 1,653 ![]() ![]() |
Have been unable to upload results or download new work units for several days. Have tried reseting to no avail. Any idea when this issue will be resolved? |
![]() Volunteer tester ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 60532 Credit: 44,438,577 RAC: 6,897 ![]() ![]() |
Voicing complaints is fine, but what I seem to hear mostly is a lot of pissing and moaning about RACs falling. Same here, But then I'd give Seti a large gift, But then when I have had the money in the past I would donate to salvation army and such, Today Its different. In any case I still can't upload and pretty soon all the PC will be doing is trying to upload as It's almost become a permanent backoff here. What is BSG Robotech-Saga-Wiki SW-wiki |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() Volunteer tester ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15653 Credit: 63,113,303 RAC: 74,623 ![]() ![]() |
I have been more than patient, as this is my 7th post since 1999! How long do the contributors need to wait for SETI management (not Matt) to fix the issues? I'm very happy to see new people with new perspectives on the boards. Welcome! A lot of money has been spent to develop recievers based upon Allen's money. Paul Allen's money goes to the SETI Institute, which has no affiliation with SETI@Home. None of that money goes here. [Edit] I see this happen frequently, actually. Many users come here thinking that SETI@Home is given money by Paul Allen, and accordingly have higher expectations of SETI@Home. Very few realize that there are dozens of SETI projects, of which SETI@Home is only one of them. The goal of SETI@Home is to do good science on a very limited budget. Sure, SETI@Home could bring in tons of cash from donations, buy uber-servers with 100% uptime and keep a constant flow of data going out to users. But that defeats the purpose of scientists proving that a dedicated scientist can still do their work without throwing money at the problem. SETI@Home gratefully accept as much donated CPU power as they can, but with the the understanding that they cannot provide 100% uptime. This is why they've suggested that people get interested in multiple projects and donate to other needed science as well. Could it be that processing data has taken a back seat to new antenna and reciever funding by a single contributor? Where is SETI headed? I believe that a "systems" approach is needed blending current data crunching with advances in reciever capability. If there is no way to analyze the data collected, should we spend money to collect more? Matt and staff should be applauded. They have done a great job, with limited funds and with out proper management direction or oversite. Fix the management and SETI will do beter science! It's very hard to manage a science project that only has 4 part time people, little to no funding, and the staff-to-user ratio is just simply ridiculous. I think once people realize the sheer vastness of SETI@Home's particular world, people should change their views and appreciate the work involved to keep our little project going. "ÜberNerdNation" wrote: A simple note on the site that says - "The site is down due to server issues, we will post a new message on this page once the servers are fully functional. Please remember this is primarily a volunteer project. Any donations to help replace damaged servers, cooling units, and upgrade technology would be appreciated." The only message on the site that I could find said the site would be back up Thursday morning. I think this is the problem, I learned from my own IT experience, never promise. Just say you are doing your best to get it up as soon as possible. If the team could find 5 mins to post something like this, I think people would relax. Actually, they have done this before. People started complaining about the lack of progress and promises. People wanted to nail them harder for not committing to anything, and started personally attacking Matt because he takes weekends off for his band, saying that he wasn't "dedicated" enough. The bottom line is that, unfortunately, you just won't make everyone happy. People are going to get frustrated, complain that no one cares, and leave. This couldn't be farther from the truth. The staff care very much, but simply don't have the ability to meet some people's expectations, and I think those people hold SETI@Home to the same expectation they would any other business. If they do, then they fail to realize the ultimate experiment that is distributed, volunteer computing. All this is, of course, my own personal views. I'm not going to convince everyone, especially the extremely frustrated ones that will press on with their own points of view, but I can only hope that once their frustration dies down, that maybe I will have planted a seed of thought that will bring them back when they're ready. |
![]() Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7093 Credit: 146,441,107 RAC: 16,647 ![]() ![]() |
At least not from Europe/Germany (or my home.. ;-). Haa.. you don't have so much results like my PCs to UL.. ;-) I guess Richard guessed correct here in the current panic thread.. 'Message 971678'.. 'handshake' missing. I saw also, either immediately, or after some seconds my ULs fail. I switched off/on my DSL router also rebooted my PCs and BOINC can't UL/connect to the scheduler.. It's not my mistake.. ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.] ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 1011 Credit: 230,274,184 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It is a little frustrating to know work units are available to send out and are flowing, but the client will not request new work because of the number of work units queued to be uploaded & my clients sit idle. It seems a SETI has created a very complicated mouse trap, on the server side as well as on the client side. I hope to see some day a better client. I actually preferred the old SETI application and setiqueue. ![]() ![]() |
1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
A lot of money has been spent to develop recievers based upon Allen's money "Allen's money" was donated to the SETI Institute, who is using it to develop their own new telescope. Jill Tarter also has a bunch of "TED" money which is supporting an independent, volunteer-based search for data in the signals. SETI@Home is a completely separate organization. They do not benefit in any way from that largesse. |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 May 03 Posts: 86 Credit: 2,512,767 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well, after due consideration, and the seeming lack of interest from the seti staff to resolve or even engage with contributor's about what is (or not!) happening, I'm ceasing my contribution to this project. The "digital watch" that I'm looking at right now doesn't seem to mind not having much to do... |
John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It is a little frustrating to know work units are available to send out and are flowing, but the client will not request new work because of the number of work units queued to be uploaded & my clients sit idle. The limit is there to prevent infinite work from accumulating on the client. There have been projects where the upload time exceeded the crunch time. ![]() ![]() BOINC WIKI |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
kudo's to each of you for all that you do @ Berkeley . . . [hi Matt] ![]() Science Status Page . . . |
Matthew S. McCleary ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Sep 99 Posts: 121 Credit: 2,288,242 RAC: 0 ![]() |
What's your beef with CPDN? At least their servers stay up most of the time... ![]() |
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