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Message 953852 - Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 11:10:56 UTC

Good morning.

The latest versions of BOINC I find it problematic when uninstall and install new versions, I wonder if anyone can help me a BOINC upgrade to the latest version.

Now I use version 6.6.38.

Greetings.
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Message 953853 - Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 11:22:00 UTC - in response to Message 953852.

What kind of problem do you run into? Any error messages?
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Message 954260 - Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 20:22:41 UTC

Thanks for responding.

There is no error message. Only stop the progress of installation and the program stops working. The same if I try to uninstall the program.

Greetings and apologies for my poor English.
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Message 954261 - Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 20:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 954260.

Do a repair installation of BOINC 6.6.38 (link provided in case you need to download it again). Just start that installer and choose Repair.

Then try to install the next BOINC immediately on top of it. See if that juggles it loose.
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Message 954742 - Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 16:28:22 UTC

Good evening.

I tried to repair the program and has not worked, the progress stops. I have also tried to delete it with the same result.

Thank you.
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Message 954791 - Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 19:58:34 UTC - in response to Message 954742.

try this!
1. Start task manager and kill all boinc assosiated processes. This includes boinc.exe, boincmgr.exe, boinctray.exe

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Download the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility package now. (http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/9/d/e9d80355-7ab4-45b8-80e8-983a48d5e1bd/msicuu2.exe)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/9/d/e9d80355-7ab4-45b8-80e8-983a48d5e1bd/msicuu2.exe

3. Run this utility , find , and remove Boinc Installation.

4. Install the new version over the old one

everything should work.
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Message 958335 - Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 22:03:35 UTC

I have had to have my harddrive re-imaged and I am trying to re-install Boinc 6.10.18 back on my computer. But every time I try to do this I get the following error "looking of boinc.msi installation package, I hit cancel an another message comes up "Error 1714 the older version of Boinc can't be found."

Please help. What can I do to get Boinc back on my computer?
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Message 958341 - Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 22:39:13 UTC - in response to Message 958335.

If I were told that the older version cannot be found, I'd install that one first.

Install 6.6.38 and then 6.10.18.

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Message 958477 - Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 10:05:29 UTC

If everything fails, see http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?language=1&view=119
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Message 958622 - Posted: 25 Dec 2009, 0:23:28 UTC - in response to Message 958477.
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I'm not receiving any error messages, but my installer is doing the same thing. I've tried all of the above. For some reason, BOINC is now only performing Docking@home and when it switches between projects, it only lists what I am participating in, then goes back to Docking. It's never done that before.
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Message 958948 - Posted: 27 Dec 2009, 5:03:16 UTC - in response to Message 958622.

Well? Is this the way it's supposed to work?
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Message 958957 - Posted: 27 Dec 2009, 5:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 958622.


I'm not receiving any error messages, but my installer is doing the same thing. I've tried all of the above. For some reason, BOINC is now only performing Docking@home and when it switches between projects, it only lists what I am participating in, then goes back to Docking. It's never done that before.


You don't get answers because it is not clear what do you say/ask.

"... my installer is doing the same thing." -
What "the same" is it doing?
If you can't install how do you can run BOINC?

"it only lists what I am participating in" -
What do you mean? To clarify - copy/paste here some 10-20 rows of messages (from the "Messages" tab of BOINC Manager).


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Message 959036 - Posted: 27 Dec 2009, 17:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 958957.
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My installer is doing the same thing Raul is reporting. I thought that was clear. I've tried everything except for what was recommended for error messages because I didn't receive any, and the installer is still doing the same thing. I thought that was also clear. My screensaver is doing something it's never done before. I also that that was clear enough. So how am I miscommunicating?
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Message 959048 - Posted: 27 Dec 2009, 19:12:25 UTC - in response to Message 959036.
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Your computers are hidden, so we can't even check if you're attached, if you have work, what BOINC version you use at this time or what Windows version it is on.

So no, it's not really clear what you're trying to say. Bill asked you to post the BOINC start-up messages, which you haven't done either.

In such a case you will have to explain in minute detail what you see, what you expected to see and what you think it isn't doing. We aren't watching over your shoulder when you do what you do, so we cannot see what you see. You will have to explain that for us. Perhaps add screen shots, photos, print-outs, error messages, a Youtube video?
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Message 959052 - Posted: 27 Dec 2009, 19:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 959048.

Sorry, I guess I'm just a little angry that everybody ignored me rather than asking me to clarify.

12/27/2009 10:37:20 AM||Starting BOINC client version 6.10.18 for windows_intelx86
12/27/2009 10:37:20 AM||log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
12/27/2009 10:37:20 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
12/27/2009 10:37:20 AM||Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
12/27/2009 10:37:20 AM||Running under account Scott
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||Memory: 503.52 MB physical, 1.20 GB virtual
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||Disk: 74.55 GB total, 44.51 GB free
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||Local time is UTC -7 hours
12/27/2009 10:37:23 AM||No usable GPUs found
12/27/2009 10:37:25 AM||Not using a proxy
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|climateprediction.net|URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 896552; resource share 100
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|Docking@Home|URL http://docking.cis.udel.edu/; Computer ID 26356; resource share 100
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|Einstein@Home|URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 1570223; resource share 100
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|SETI@home|URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4504512; resource share 100
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|SETI@home|General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 25-Jun-2009 11:06:48)
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|SETI@home|Computer location: home
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM|SETI@home|General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM||Reading preferences override file
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 251.76MB
12/27/2009 10:37:27 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 453.17MB
12/27/2009 10:37:36 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 18.64GB

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Message 959062 - Posted: 28 Dec 2009, 23:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 959052.
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OK, your Docking tasks take +/-9 hours to complete.
That CPDN model you have takes around 19.5 hours per trickle.

I'm fully assuming your BOINC is overworked with what you've loaded it up with, so it won't get work from Einstein or Seti at this time. It's trying to finish the Docking tasks first, then it'll probably go into trying to do that CPDN model to completion first.

When you check in BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Tasks tab, what is the status of the task that's running? If "Running, High Priority", then BOINC is trying to finish that task before its deadline.

The screen saver code changed, it now shows what projects you are attached to, switching to the actual project screen saver if the project has one. This is to give extra information and to always give a screen saver that shows information, even on those projects that do not have a screen saver application.

Now all that doesn't explain what you're trying to do with an installer. You've got BOINC 6.10.18, which is the present recommended version. You don't have to upgrade any further at this time.
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Message 959093 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 0:35:32 UTC - in response to Message 959052.
Last modified: 29 Dec 2009, 0:47:02 UTC

If SETI@home is your favorite project then change its resource share from 100 to 1000 (or 10000 or any bigger than 100 number you like)

If SETI@home resource share is set to 1000 you will have a "pie" or "pizza" made of 1300 "pieces" (seconds, minutes)
- BOINC will try to get:
for every 1000 seconds of SETI@home work
only 100 + 100 + 100 seconds for your other 3 projects.

This means (if all projects have (can send) work) that your CPU will compute:
for SETI@home - 1000/1300 = 77% of the time
for Docking@Home - 100/1300 = 8% of the time
for Einstein@Home - 100/1300 = 8% of the time
for climateprediction.net - 100/1300 = 8% of the time


BOINC will need some time (days, weeks) to accommodate the change (as you have already downloaded work to complete).


P.S.
When you say "My installer is doing the same thing" (hang in the middle of installation) do you refer to the file
boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe
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Message 959123 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 959093.

"When you say "My installer is doing the same thing" (hang in the middle of installation) do you refer to the file boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe"

Yes, but apparently it's working, according to Ageless.

"I'm fully assuming your BOINC is overworked with what you've loaded it up with"

I had no idea that could happen, because I've seen people on this forum working a lot more than four(if I'm interpreting everybody's stats correctly). Should I withdraw from a project or two? Or should I distribute the resources better?

By the way, I've hidden my computer because I have paranoid schizophrenia, and opening it for everybody to view seems Big Brother-ish.
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Message 959145 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 2:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 959123.
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"I'm fully assuming your BOINC is overworked with what you've loaded it up with"

I had no idea that could happen, because I've seen people on this forum working a lot more than four(if I'm interpreting everybody's stats correctly). Should I withdraw from a project or two? Or should I distribute the resources better?


It depends on how fast your computer is and how big your "WU cache" is.

Did you change your Computing preferences:
Computer is connected to the Internet about every - XX days
Maintain enough work for an additional - YY days

It depends also on change of your habits of using the computer.

If in the past the computer was ON all the time and computing on projects
BOINC downloaded more (enough) work for this type of usage.

If now you use it rarely and sleep/switch it off when you do not use it
BOINC will see this and accommodate - but slowly - as it will try to complete the already downloaded work.


"Distributing the resources" is what I explained above as "resource share".


By the way, I've hidden my computer because I have paranoid schizophrenia, and opening it for everybody to view seems Big Brother-ish.


You Hide your computers - why?
There is NO sensitive info which we can see - only the type of CPU, GPU and OS.

See my computers by clicking on my "name" BilBg to the left of this post -
what you can see about mine is all that we can see of yours.

So there is no need to hide your computers ...


This is what I see of your computer:

Computer 4504512

Owner Anonymous
Created 30 Jul 2008 2:01:25 UTC
Total credit 2,238
Average credit 11.49
CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
Number of processors 1
Coprocessors ---
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
BOINC client version 6.10.18
Memory 503.52 MB
Cache 0 KB
Measured floating point speed 1318.87 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 2398.24 million ops/sec
Average upload rate 16.22 KB/sec
Average download rate 97.65 KB/sec
Average turnaround time 30.27 days
Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 100/day
Tasks 0


And this is what I see of your Account:

Account data for Scott Armstrong

SETI@home member since 29 Aug 2003
Country United States
Total credit 2,590
Recent average credit 11.49
SETI@home classic workunits 363
SETI@home classic CPU time 14,873 hours
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SETI@home 2,590 9 29 Aug 2003
climateprediction.net 5,757 9 11 Aug 2008
Einstein@Home 7,882 0 11 Aug 2008

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Message 959152 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 3:00:32 UTC - in response to Message 959123.

"When you say "My installer is doing the same thing" (hang in the middle of installation) do you refer to the file boinc_6.10.18_windows_intelx86.exe"

Yes, but apparently it's working, according to Ageless.

"I'm fully assuming your BOINC is overworked with what you've loaded it up with"

I had no idea that could happen, because I've seen people on this forum working a lot more than four(if I'm interpreting everybody's stats correctly). Should I withdraw from a project or two? Or should I distribute the resources better?

By the way, I've hidden my computer because I have paranoid schizophrenia, and opening it for everybody to view seems Big Brother-ish.

I have around 60 projects attached to some of my computers. Sometimes BOINC needs to do some crunching to clear the cache a bit so that more work can be usefully downloaded without missing deadlines. There is nothing wrong with this.
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