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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It wasn't until I stuck my 9600GSO into my I7 machine that I realized the stat page was misleading. I would look and go wow, 3 295's that was spendy. Well after putting my 9600 in with my GTX260 I noticed it now tells me I have 2 GTX260's. So a lot of people showing multiple spendy cards may have 1 fast card and a couple Cuda cards of any sort. Just wasn't sure if everyone realized that when looking at stat pages. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
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Just wasn't sure if everyone realized that when looking at stat pages. I'm not sure if everyone realizes ;-), but there have been several threads (maybe at the BOINC dev boards too) about that problem. IIRC, it's a matter of the CUDA drivers, unless there's a difference between what BOINC manager says and what the "Computers belonging to ..." pages tell. I'm assuming that you speak about those pages when saying "stat pages." Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) ![]() SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It doesn't bother me just makes it hard to compare machines at the •Top computers page. If I add another faster card I just need to add it in slot 1 and it will show that I have 3 of those. I hadn't seen the threads so I figured I would say something. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
BOINC displays all of your cards as whatever your pirmary card is, or soemthing sorta like that. So yes you could have your primary GPU as the lowest end CUDA card and then 3 of that fastest things on the planet. Then everyone would wonder how those old cards as so fast. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
BOINC displays all of your cards as whatever your pirmary card is, or soemthing sorta like that. So yes you could have your primary GPU as the lowest end CUDA card and then 3 of that fastest things on the planet. Then everyone would wonder how those old cards as so fast. Hey I like that idea....EDIT, next time I take my machine apart I will have the fastest 9600GSO's out there....LOL Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
BOINC displays all of your cards as whatever your pirmary card is, or soemthing sorta like that. So yes you could have your primary GPU as the lowest end CUDA card and then 3 of that fastest things on the planet. Then everyone would wonder how those old cards as so fast. or you could pickup and old GeForce 8400 GS for your primary. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours ![]() |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
And when you see machines with 4+ GTX 295's.. there's a way to split the card apart to make it appear like two cards, since the GTX's are actually two separate cards on one PCB. If you did not care about the performance hit with video games, you should be able to use the drivers to split one into two. Not sure what all it involves, or if it can be done on-the-fly or needs a reboot. Ask the hardcore crunchers who do it..they can tell you. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Anyone have any idea how much faster RAC wise a GTX 275 would be over a GTX260? PNY - NVIDIA GeForce XLR8 GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card BFG - NVIDIA GeForce 260 GTX OC MAXCORE 55 896MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
FiveHamlet ![]() Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 ![]() |
This is my GTX275 startup info.STOCK 02/12/2009 00:29:25 NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 275 (driver version 19107, CUDA version 2030, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, 691 GFLOPS peak) Don't know about the GTX260 but there is a thread with all the various card data. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
This is my GTX275 startup info.STOCK 12/1/2009 6:13:39 PM NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 19562, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, 537 GFLOPS peak Can anyone give an approximate RAC advantage? The reason I need to know is I gave a computer to a friend and he is heading to bestbuy tonight and will get me either. I don't want the more expensive if it isn't much bang for the buck. The 275 is about $35 more. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
All you ever needed to know about CUDA cards: Wikipedia (link drops you in at the 200 series, including 260 and 275, but the others are all there too). |
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Guess it is all about Gflops so I guess the 275 would be best as 200 Gflops should be a bit. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well it doesn't seem to matter to Boinc which order you put the video cards in the machine. At least with mine it says I have 2 GTX 275's even though the 275 is in slot 2. Oh Well.... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
Galadriel Send message Joined: 24 Jan 09 Posts: 42 Credit: 8,422,996 RAC: 0 ![]() |
This is my GTX275 startup info.STOCK it depends how hardcore cruncher you are. from my point of view i just made today one big mistake. i bought the EVGA GTX275 FTW for 254€ performance around 10.16 min/wu. i bought some weeks ago a Gigabyte N26OC-896I gtx260 for 158€ which does 12.36min/wu. the tests have been done on the same bunch of wu's if you have an free pci-e slot an powerful enough powersuply and are going for the credits i would say try to squeeze some extra cash and get 2x gtx260. better solution then one heavly oc gtx275 or standard clocked gtx285. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
This is my GTX275 startup info.STOCK I traded an old cruncher for the card and my friend insisted on getting me a 275. That was what we were talking about at the time and then he felt I just wanted to save hime money so we went online and he ordered me the card he thought it looked cool with the 2 fans. LOL Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I think I agree with you, if getting card mainly for Seti you will get more bang for your buck with 260's. So unless you get it for free go with the 260's. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
SmartWombat ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jan 04 Posts: 64 Credit: 6,577,011 RAC: 0 ![]() |
which does 12.36min/wu I have a GeForce 9600 and get between 5:36 and 33:18 for the latest 4 cuda wu. So I don't think measuring min/wu is a reliable performance measure, the work involved per work unit is just too variable. PAul [IMG][/IMG] |
Galadriel Send message Joined: 24 Jan 09 Posts: 42 Credit: 8,422,996 RAC: 0 ![]() |
as i stated above. the test where made on the same wu. so yes it measures exactly the performance of the two cards. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I now feel the GTX 275 is the better bang for the buck if it is overclocked and refurbished...My GTX 275 frozr is within seconds of my GTX285 and both are overclocked to max. Wish I had bought 2 of the MSI 275 while they were on sale... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
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