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Message 950198 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:21:45 UTC

Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.
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Message 950199 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:23:28 UTC - in response to Message 949965.

We may be overlooking the most obvious reason for these failures… ET has inadvertently let a signal be received by Arecibo and is now sabotaging this project so we don’t find it. (Taking a lesson from LHC’s bird from the future.)

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Message 950201 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 950198.
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Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.

I think this post was a bit rude frankly.
This project is being run a donation basis with donated equipment and a small staff. I think they are doing a stellar job with what they have to work with. And I thank them for their devotion as well.
This is not a business, this is an academic research project.
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Message 950202 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:31:04 UTC - in response to Message 950201.

Ditto. I'd like to see this guy do better on a shoestring budget on a voluntary basis.

I hope evryone had a Happy Thanksgivving.

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Message 950203 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 950198.
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Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.


One of the purposes of BOINC projects in general, and SETI in particular, is to develop the concept of distributed computing. SETI leads the pack because of the large numbers of volunteers that have signed up. Every time we (the volunteers) overload SETI and break it down is another useful data point.

Anybody, even the flakey (sic), can run a reliable computer service for a gazillion users, all it takes is time and money. We see it happening every day (YouTube, on-line shopping, etc.). The REAL talent is to run a large distributed project like SETI as a small part of your main job, on a motley collection of second hand and donated equipment. The fact that do as well as they do is far from flakey, and, in my opinion, is highly professional.
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Message 950204 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 950201.

Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.

I think this post was a bit rude frankly.
This project is being run a donation basis with donated equipment and a small staff. I think they are doing a stellar job with what they have to work with. And I thank them for their devotion as well.
This is not a business, this is an academic research project.


Well, a sloppy (i.e., UNbusinesslike) attitude can be a problem - just ask the boys at UEA CRU.
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Message 950211 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 17:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 950201.

Why does this project go down EVERY second or third weekend? Rather flakey and very unprofessional in my opinion.

I think this post was a bit rude frankly.
This project is being run a donation basis with donated equipment and a small staff. I think they are doing a stellar job with what they have to work with. And I thank them for their devotion as well.
This is not a business, this is an academic research project.


I couldn't agree more with Roundel. While the outages may be frustrating, they are inevitable considering that SETI does not have, and can not afford, top-notch equipment. And even top-notch equipment fails from time-to-time. I wonder if Dukbil could code for or troubleshoot a massive database and all of the other incidental coding. Ehhhh?

SETI was the first worldwide distributed computing project, and I personally think they do a very admirable job considering the equipment they have to work with. And those guys are really dedicated to keeping it all running.

Good'uns to all.




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Message 950214 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:01:44 UTC

You are doing a great job. Take your holiday--you deserve it.

Hey, turn on that megawatt transmitter at Arecibo and I'll cook my turkey in the main lobe. ;-)
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Message 950219 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:09:36 UTC

Hey, call the Kampus Kops, somebody seems to be messing around in the server room!! I just managed to upload all my WUs. Still can't report them or get new work but it's a start. THANKS to whoever is in there fiddling around.
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Message 950220 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 950219.

I too just uploaded my WUs, still can't report.

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Message 950221 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:17:19 UTC

All my WUs just uploaded as well. Very professional.
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Message 950222 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 950219.

Hey, call the Kampus Kops, somebody seems to be messing around in the server room!! I just managed to upload all my WUs. Still can't report them or get new work but it's a start. THANKS to whoever is in there fiddling around.



I also managed to upload all work units all of a sudden. No reporting though yet, but still this means that someone is doing something right.

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Message 950232 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:51:24 UTC - in response to Message 950199.

We may be overlooking the most obvious reason for these failures… ET has inadvertently let a signal be received by Arecibo and is now sabotaging this project so we don’t find it. (Taking a lesson from LHC’s bird from the future.)


Unfortunately for all those outlets that reported it (especially The Register,
which seems to have started it) the story of the bird and the baguette doesn't
mesh with CERN's reality. See this article:

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNBulletin/2009/48/News%20Articles/1221806?ln=en

Unluckily, I'd finished my round of shifts before CMS saw its first collisions,
but at least I was still at CERN when it happened.
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Message 950236 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 18:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 950219.

It's also possible they piggy backed us upon the campus connection, allowing us to upload. I notice that the scheduling server and both download servers are specifically disabled.
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Message 950243 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 19:14:36 UTC - in response to Message 950219.
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Hey, call the Kampus Kops, somebody seems to be messing around in the server room!! I just managed to upload all my WUs. Still can't report them or get new work but it's a start. THANKS to whoever is in there fiddling around.


Now I managed to report all my tasks too. Next to wait for is to get new WU's

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Message 950251 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 19:48:03 UTC

yep mine have uploaded and reported as well!

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Message 950252 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 19:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 950251.

also just had two new wu's

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Message 950253 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 19:56:01 UTC

Message from the front page: November 27, 2009
The connectivity problem noted yesterday turned out to be one of our switches and not the router. We swapped in a replacement switch today and connectivity was restored.
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Message 950256 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 19:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 950253.

Message from the front page: November 27, 2009
The connectivity problem noted yesterday turned out to be one of our switches and not the router. We swapped in a replacement switch today and connectivity was restored.


Good job!
And: thank you...
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Message 950259 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 20:09:59 UTC

I've been able to upload but not download as yet. Just 12 hours left on main machine at the minute. Maybe there are so many posts to the forums it's preventing the science traffic from getting through :D!

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