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Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello, Can someboody tell me how can i get/download the already uploaded and save them in a folder for log purpose ? I´d like to see my results in Seti-Mapview Thank you Carlos Carvalho |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
No chance. You'll have to copy them before they are uploaded. To achieve that, you could suspend network activity via Activity menu in BOINC manager's advanced view and only resume it for short periods when you have copied all tasks. Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
In first place i like to thank you for your answer. Can you please also tell me wich files(extensions) in the Berkeley.Edu folder that i should copy ? It is possible to see later these copied files in the Mapview ? Thank you |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, I'm no Mapview user, but you could do an Advanced search (top left corner of this page) of the forum for "mapview" or "logx" (without the quotes) over at least six months. Gruß, Gundolf |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
In first place i like to thank you for your answer. You don't need to do this manually - BoincLogX will do this automatically For setting BoincLogX look my answer here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=55127&nowrap=true#927634 You can find BoincLogX 1.52 & SetiMapView 6.54 here: http://www.bjoernhenke.de/frame.htm?/boinclogx/index.en.htm  - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello, Thank you for your answer In fact BoincLogX do it automatically. But, i´m talking about the tasks that i uploaded with Boinc to SETI before BoinclogX installation. After Upload the files aren´t anymore in my PC Can you help me ? |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
Still no chance. |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello Gundolf, OK it seems impossible. But how can we look for my founded best results, like Triplets and spikes ? It looks that it is only possible to check our credits, but in fact i´m not interesting in credits ! I just want to study the places and signals of my best results. Only SETI know it ? In that case should not SETI or BOINC advice us that we should install LogX before Boinc Manager ? |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Hello, AFAIK - There is NO way to get them - the WUs and the result files are deleted both on your PC and on SETI servers - only the found signals (and who found them) are put in the science database which is not accessible by the users. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello, We are talking about a cientific project with global world interest ! And the point isn´t just the fact that we are giving or not our contribution. The data stored just should be public ! The behaviour of a Scientific institute, should be based on transparency and sense of duty to the world by sharing information. That is really wrong ! |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Hello, The results are being made public as fast as NiTPiCKeR is able to get to them. BOINC WIKI |
Aurora Borealis Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 3075 Credit: 5,631,463 RAC: 0 |
There is no way in the world Seti can give everyone access to the master database. Just having the NiTPiCKeR software scanning that continuously updating database to make a list of possible interesting results that should be re-observed is tasking the Seti resources. Allowing the over 300 thousand currently active users to query it is just not something that is possible to do. Now, if you have a hundred million dollars to donate for the necessary hardware and manpower then maybe.... Boinc V7.2.42 Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470 |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
There is no way in the world Seti can give everyone access to the master database. Just having the NiTPiCKeR software scanning that continuously updating database to make a list of possible interesting results that should be re-observed is tasking the Seti resources. Allowing the over 300 thousand currently active users to query it is just not something that is possible to do. Now, if you have a hundred million dollars to donate for the necessary hardware and manpower then maybe.... Is the science database "OPEN science" as the programs are "OPEN source"? (Third party as Lunatics do great job in optimizing SETI apps sources.) Is it possible that (backup copy of) the science database be given to third party (e.g. BOINCstats) once a week or month? Maybe they will find the time and resources to make search engine for users to "explore" the found "signals"? _ Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
How would you like to transport those several terabytes of data? ;-) And think about the time needed for the copy process. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
How would you like to transport those several terabytes of data? ;-) Don't they make backups of the science database (and send them to another town/country)? What if fire in the lab? Or big earthquake in California? Or US government decides to confiscate the data and send SWAT team? Or hackers break-through? Or thieves steal the HDDs? ... Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello, If is a big ammount of data, there is one more reason for the data don´t be deleted from our PC. Why BOINC manager instruction programm delete the data after the upload ? Why we are not adviced to install Boinclogx first ? If you have a good reason please explain to me, because i really don´t understand ! |
Carlos Alexandre Xavier da Silva Carvalho Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 386,472 RAC: 0 |
Hello, Is good to know it ! But i´m talking before NiTPiCKeR analysis.... Why Boinc manager delete the data from our PC ? Just doesn´t make sense ! |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
BoincLogX is a third party program, not made or updated by Berkeley. It's your choice to install it, it doesn't need to be installed for BOINC, or any projects you're attached to, to run. As to why BOINC deletes results after upload? To save space and clean up after itself. Perhaps that Seti doesn't have that big a files - 350KB to 8MB - but other projects can have extremely large files. CPDN comes to mind with result files that easily pass 500MB. Keep a couple of those on your drive and wonder where all the space went. Remember that not everyone has terabytes of space to work with, there are still a lot of older computers out there with only 512MB RAM and little disk space. You really want to burden them with files to keep? |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
BoincLogX is a third party program, not made or updated by Berkeley. It's your choice to install it, it doesn't need to be installed for BOINC, or any projects you're attached to, to run. 350Kb does not sound like much until you multiply by 500,000,000 or so results completed. (we are talking about 100s of petabytes here). BOINC WIKI |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
350Kb does not sound like much until you multiply by 500,000,000 or so results completed. (we are talking about 100s of petabytes here). Do you happen to know the size of the science database? Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
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