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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20260 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
After what at first appeared to the world's press as a damp squib due to there being no "Armageddon" type explosion and plume, LCROSS did indeed hit water: LCROSS Impact Data Indicates Water on Moon Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
It was good news Martin, There was a terrible feeling of let-down with the main event. The whole world tuned in to watch and nobody saw anything. So this news was a real vindication for the LCROSS science team, and a victory for humanity as a whole. The fact that there is water on the moon actually gives mankind a future on the moon. Before this, the moon was a dead dry place. They also mentioned that they also saw much more than just water. They hesitated to say what else they found, but they did seem very excited about possible other trace elements they saw. Wonder what else they found, they say there will be another press release in a few weeks. Thanks for the story Martin, John. |
Norman Copeland Send message Joined: 17 Aug 09 Posts: 1503 Credit: 143,499 RAC: 0 |
I wonder what sort of effect it would have on the enhabitant's of the moon if water was extracted from sodium traces that appear to have been missing from the emmission's of the star {our star sol}. Just a thought. |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1383 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
Preliminary examination of the spectrometer data suggests that, other than water, any of the following substances may have been present at the LCROSS impact site: Carbon Dioxide, Carbon Monoxide, Methane, Ethanol, Methanol. see Sky and Telescope article: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/69991547.html |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I wonder what sort of effect it would have on the enhabitant's of the moon if water was extracted from sodium traces that appear to have been missing from the emmission's of the star {our star sol}. Huh? please explain how water from the moon has anything to do with missing sodium emmissions. I can not connect the dots and it appears that these 2 things are mutually exclusive. And how would one extract sodium traces that are already missing. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20260 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I wonder what sort of effect it would have on the enhabitant's of the moon if water was extracted from sodium traces that appear to have been missing from the emmission's of the star {our star sol}. Sorry, I don't think anyone has yet devised a gibberish quotient for quantitative analysis. Just a thought. Just an unconnected response. Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20260 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I wonder... Norman, Wow! Never knew that you got your name in print at MIT!!! Methodology for the Exploration of Evolutionary Programming Congratulations on the seminal publication! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Many information theorists would agree that, had it not been for active networks, the exploration of Smalltalk might never have occurred. Given the current status of large-scale information, computational biologists famously desire the investigation of the memory bus. Similarly, given the current status of classical technology, theorists predictably desire the analysis of online algorithms. Clearly, kernels and probabilistic modalities do not necessarily obviate the need for the construction of DHTs. sounds like his work In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20260 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Many information theorists would agree that, had it not been for active networks, the exploration of Smalltalk might never have occurred. Given the current status of large-scale information, computational biologists famously desire the investigation of the memory bus. Similarly, given the current status of classical technology, theorists predictably desire the analysis of online algorithms. Clearly, kernels and probabilistic modalities do not necessarily obviate the need for the construction of DHTs. You must admit, that lot is rather creative! :-) However, I think we'd better leave discussion of evolutionary networks and SmallTalk to another thread before we all dive into a headful of RSI! :-p Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20260 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Preliminary examination of the spectrometer data suggests that, other than water, any of the following substances may have been present at the LCROSS impact site: Carbon Dioxide, Carbon Monoxide, Methane, Ethanol, Methanol. see Sky and Telescope article: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/69991547.html What is more interesting is whether there may be a chemical record of the early Earth frozen in the moon dust below the surface away from the sun's influence... So... Did the Centaur rocket stage excavate deeply enough into the moon's surface to find more than just the hoped for water ice?... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1383 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
Its not clear how, or if, the different substances are layered in the Lunar soil. That determination may need something more systematic than an impact explosion, it seems. The same forces that drove the substances into the ground-- everything from micrometeorites churning up the soil over billions of years to asteroid and comet impacts may have mixed things pretty well. The crater is supposed to be some 4 or 5 meters deep. Granting the possibility of some layering, I wonder if they have enough data to do a time based study of which substances were detected in which order. If there is any discernible variation, this could give some idea of the depth at which various materials lie. The first thrown out by the impact would be from nearest the surface, the next detected, directly below it, and so on. The possibility of doing this kind of study would depend on the number of spectrograms made in succession, very close on after the impact. |
Norman Copeland Send message Joined: 17 Aug 09 Posts: 1503 Credit: 143,499 RAC: 0 |
Japan's moon satelite... JAXA = Japanese aerospace exploration agency Observation's of below the moon surface from the Japanese space agencie's lunar satelite... |
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