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Message 948599 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 19:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 948337.  

I guessing with a name like ap_5.05_win_x86_SSE3_BROOK_r280.exe this requires a CPU that has SSE3 support? I was looking at this to run on one of my old boxen with an ATI 3850, 5004381, but since it's an older P4 only has SSE2.
Always figure it's better to ask before sticking it in and gettting failed wu's.


Yes, it's SSE3 and up only app.
I'm aware that some older AMD Athlons 64 with SSE2-only but PCI-E bus exist.
So, there are some P4s too. Will see maybe it's worth to do SSE2 (actually, SSE) build too.


Thanks for the info!

The machine I'm using is actually using an AGP 3850 card from sapphire. I was unable to find any P4 socket 478 motherboards that had PCI-E. So, I built a new computer. I keep this one to play media on TV now.

Demand for a non-SSE3 version may be very low due to people upgrading their computer just to crunch I would guess.
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Message 948614 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 20:49:15 UTC
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Hmmm, CPU-Z and Intel Processor ID Utility both state my cpu has SSE3, but Boinc Manager says only SSE2 in it's start up messages. Is BM broken or just doesn't care about SSE3?

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2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 0 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 2.00 MB cache
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx

CPU-Z version 1.52.2:
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
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Message 948618 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 21:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 948614.  

New developments and ATI support, good news, hope there is enough work ;)

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Message 948671 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009, 23:54:10 UTC - in response to Message 948614.  

Hmmm, CPU-Z and Intel Processor ID Utility both state my cpu has SSE3, but Boinc Manager says only SSE2 in it's start up messages. Is BM broken or just doesn't care about SSE3?

BM 6.10.19:
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 0 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 2.00 MB cache
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx

CPU-Z version 1.52.2:
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T


BOINC only reports what the operating system says it has.

CPU-Z actually polls the CPU itself for the information.


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Message 948716 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 3:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 948671.  

Hmmm, CPU-Z and Intel Processor ID Utility both state my cpu has SSE3, but Boinc Manager says only SSE2 in it's start up messages. Is BM broken or just doesn't care about SSE3?

BM 6.10.19:
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 0 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 2.00 MB cache
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx

CPU-Z version 1.52.2:
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T


BOINC only reports what the operating system says it has.

CPU-Z actually polls the CPU itself for the information.


I love how windows reports some of my systems as having 0kB of cache. That one freaked me out when I first saw it. Thought I had some machines with dead cache.
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Message 948772 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 8:50:14 UTC - in response to Message 948599.  

...I was unable to find any P4 socket 478 motherboards that had PCI-E...

Got 2 of these msi 478 boards with PCI-E a few weeks ago, available in EU, not sure about rest of the world...
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Message 949069 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 13:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 948614.  

Hmmm, CPU-Z and Intel Processor ID Utility both state my cpu has SSE3, but Boinc Manager says only SSE2 in it's start up messages. Is BM broken or just doesn't care about SSE3?

BM 6.10.19:
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 0 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3]
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor: 2.00 MB cache
2009-11-20 12:36:17 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx

CPU-Z version 1.52.2:
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T


Mine the same so I went for AKv8 sse3 and it worked perfectly
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Message 949457 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 10:45:30 UTC

Hmmm useing the graphic card for seti mmmm not thought out well funny all these comments about gpu's causeing performance problems wonder why !!!!! Only 1 way to fix it boys pay heaps of money for a card that has 2 or more cuda cores or ATI"S gpu's if ATI make any .No worrys those boffins at berkly will come up with anouther way to try and blow up your computer . And to think CPU's are fast and there was a time when you could still use your computer and do seti units without the computer slowing down so much you can't use it , alas those days are gone after all us user are only numbers and we are all rich that we can pay big bucks for special cards with multiple cuda cores and replace our computers ever six months.......!!!!!
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Message 949509 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 17:15:17 UTC - in response to Message 949457.  

Hmmm useing the graphic card for seti mmmm not thought out well funny all these comments about gpu's causeing performance problems wonder why !!!!! Only 1 way to fix it boys pay heaps of money for a card that has 2 or more cuda cores or ATI"S gpu's if ATI make any .No worrys those boffins at berkly will come up with anouther way to try and blow up your computer . And to think CPU's are fast and there was a time when you could still use your computer and do seti units without the computer slowing down so much you can't use it , alas those days are gone after all us user are only numbers and we are all rich that we can pay big bucks for special cards with multiple cuda cores and replace our computers ever six months.......!!!!!


Strange attitude at least. No one forces you do do this, really no one but you yourself
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Message 949628 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 5:43:32 UTC - in response to Message 949509.  

Hmmm useing the graphic card for seti mmmm not thought out well funny all these comments about gpu's causeing performance problems wonder why !!!!! Only 1 way to fix it boys pay heaps of money for a card that has 2 or more cuda cores or ATI"S gpu's if ATI make any .No worrys those boffins at berkly will come up with anouther way to try and blow up your computer . And to think CPU's are fast and there was a time when you could still use your computer and do seti units without the computer slowing down so much you can't use it , alas those days are gone after all us user are only numbers and we are all rich that we can pay big bucks for special cards with multiple cuda cores and replace our computers ever six months.......!!!!!


Strange attitude at least. No one forces you do do this, really no one but you yourself


and the voices in my head :)
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Message 949632 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 5:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 949628.  

and the voices in my head :)

The problem with the voices in my head, is that they don't speak my language :/
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Message 949636 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 6:09:42 UTC - in response to Message 949632.  

and the voices in my head :)

The problem with the voices in my head, is that they don't speak my language :/

You're all jealous that the voices speak only to me.
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Message 949702 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 15:01:27 UTC

Hello people,

after many days testens, I will switch off the hybrid client probably again, because he brought no betters, but rather the opposite with the working PC.

PC: AMD Athlon X2, Win XP 32bit Sp3

Although I had placed avg_ncpus even also on 0, the astropulse client moved up to 50% of the processor, then both still running Multibeams divided only 25%. This entailed which was extended the Multibeam runtime up to 3-fold.

In the final effect the everyday points goes down from 1200-1500 to 600 points on the day.

On the one hand, I may not exclude which lies it with the used operating system. Vista und Co have there them if resource subdivision improves.
The hybrid client is already a determining step in the right direction and I thank Raistmer for his excellent work.
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Message 949703 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 15:01:40 UTC

Hello people,

after many days testens, I will switch off the hybrid client probably again, because he brought no betters, but rather the opposite with the working PC.

PC: AMD Athlon X2, Win XP 32bit Sp3

Although I had placed avg_ncpus even also on 0, the astropulse client moved up to 50% of the processor, then both still running Multibeams divided only 25%. This entailed which was extended the Multibeam runtime up to 3-fold.

In the final effect the everyday points goes down from 1200-1500 to 600 points on the day.

On the one hand, I may not exclude which lies it with the used operating system. Vista und Co have there them if resource subdivision improves.
The hybrid client is already a determining step in the right direction and I thank Raistmer for his excellent work.
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Message 949714 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 15:19:33 UTC - in response to Message 949703.  

Answered on Lunatics already.
Main point - check way you compute app effectiveness.
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Message 949788 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 21:06:39 UTC

hi,

Im currently having a few issues,
this is my setup

AMD athlon x64 3400+ skt 754 @2.6ghtz sse/sse2/sse3 mmx/3dnow! (from cpu-z)
ATI Radeon AGP HD3850 668/828 stock speed 512 ddr3
Windows 7 professional x64


Firstly is there a x64 version of the Hybrid ATI app ?
im only seeing links for x86

Also can someone tell me what double & no double is sorry but im not familiar with that term:(
Oh and any news on some WU my pc at home has had none all day/ my one at work has about 150 waiting to crunch


thanks


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Message 949789 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 21:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 949788.  

Have a read of this thread:

CPU/ATI GPU hybrid AstroPulse for Windows released

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Message 949790 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 21:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 949789.  

thanks claggy,but thats where i got it from, but there is no mention that i can see that this is x64 it seems its only x86
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Message 949795 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 21:39:13 UTC - in response to Message 949790.  
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thanks claggy,but thats where i got it from, but there is no mention that i can see that this is x64 it seems its only x86


It is only x86 at the moment.
The link in the release notes to the supported cards list displays what cards do not support double precision floating point operations.

the no double exe is for the cards that do not support the feature.
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Message 949799 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 21:46:30 UTC - in response to Message 949790.  
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thanks claggy,but thats where i got it from, but there is no mention that i can see that this is x64 it seems its only x86

Re: CPU/ATI GPU hybrid AstroPulse for Windows released

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Quote from: corsair on 07 Nov 2009, 11:19:00 am
and what about x64 version?? I use not to run any x32 if I can.

Quote from: Raistmer on 07 Nov 2009, 12:27:09 pm
Well, I could try to build but because my ATI-enabled host still uses x86 OS (not because it's better, just because of my laziness ) it would be hard to test it for me.
Let's wait when I install Win7 x64 on my quad first


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