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So, I've noticed this line in my CUDA tasks, that says "Running (0.04 CPUs, 1 CUDA)". I assume this means that 4% of one CPU is being used to supply work to the GPU. Is that enough? | |
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if you look on your preferences on the BOINC manager you see the "run GPU when computer is being used" if its unclicked and you are using your PC then no it won't be running. | |
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if you look on your preferences on the BOINC manager you see the "run GPU when computer is being used" if its unclicked and you are using your PC then no it won't be running. Yeah, I've clicked that option, so I know it's running even when I'm using my PC (also the CUDA task says 'Running' in the manager, not 'Waiting to run'). But it still hardly has any impact on the computer. ____________ | |
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I'd be willing to bet the 8800 CUda card would cause more problems than the GTX260 the better the card the less you'll notice work being done. I notice when I run my ATI 4770 when gaming. not so much when its off. | |
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So, I've noticed this line in my CUDA tasks, that says "Running (0.04 CPUs, 1 CUDA)". I assume this means that 4% of one CPU is being used to supply work to the GPU. Is that enough? If I remember correctly that has to do more with the work fetch than the CPU resources. Look at your task manager and you'll see the CPU percentage jumping around in the GPU process. ____________ | |
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So, I've noticed this line in my CUDA tasks, that says "Running (0.04 CPUs, 1 CUDA)". I assume this means that 4% of one CPU is being used to supply work to the GPU. Is that enough? It is not a measurement, it's an estimate. For those running stock, there's a server-side estimate of how much CPU will be used, based on the host's benchmarks and the estimated speed of the GPU. For those running anonymous platform, the 0.04 is what's in the app_info.xml. It makes very little difference, the BOINC core client uses it to decide whether a CPU application can be run at the same time as a GPU application. In effect the 0.04 says 96% of the CPU is available for other work. Actual CPU usage can be checked with Task Manager, of course. It isn't steady usage, the GPU only needs to be told what to do next after it has completed an operation. Some users have determined that they get the best productivity by leaving one CPU core effectively idle so it can feed the GPU with no delay. That mode would probably speed up the GPU work on your host, but whether it would be enough to make up for the unused CPU is uncertain. Joe | |
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Some users have determined that they get the best productivity by leaving one CPU core effectively idle so it can feed the GPU with no delay. That mode would probably speed up the GPU work on your host, but whether it would be enough to make up for the unused CPU is uncertain. I can't imagine that it would be worth sacrificing a whole CPU core to feed one measly mid-range CUDA card, but I can see that it could help for top crunchers like Simon or Vyper with 6 or 8 top-of-the-range cards to feed. | |
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All right, thanks for the information everyone. | |
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If you don't mind my asking, what are your cards OC'd to? On my 3000+ I leave the CPU idle to feed the GPU (GTX216), and at 700/1480/1025 I'm getting around 9,500 RAC. Cheers :) | |
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AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE @ 4 x 3.0 GHz with 4x OCed GTX260-216. Wow, I only have one mobile GTX 260M (basically a shrunk desktop 9800 GT) with a P7350 CPU. That's only 112 shaders, compared to your 864! I will see what happens when I switch off one CPU core, or both. ____________ | |
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Chirag Patel, | |
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Chirag Patel, 186.82 are the latest mobile drivers available officially from nVidia. I've tried LaptopVideo2Go's custom ones based on the 191.xx desktop drivers, but I've trouble with Powermizer in the past if I used those drivers (the 260M wouldn't clock down from max clocks even when the card was idle). And call me Chirag. ;) ____________ | |
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Chirag Patel, Later Beta 190.38 Notebook drivers are available in the 2nd post in this thread: CUDA Toolkit and SDK 2.3 released Claggy | |
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If you don't mind my asking, what are your cards OC'd to? On my 3000+ I leave the CPU idle to feed the GPU (GTX216), and at 700/1480/1025 I'm getting around 9,500 RAC. My manufacturer OCed GTX260-216 run at manufacturer OCed: 675/1458/1152 [GPU/shader/RAM]. [http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=896-P3-1258-AR&family=Geforce%20200%20Series%20Family] [http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/896-P3-1258.pdf] So I guess faster RAM speed would speed up the calculation. Also, you have your GTX260-216 in a PCIe 1.0 x16 or PCIe 2.0 x8 slot? Also faster system RAM would speed up the GPU calculation. I changed DDR2 800/5-5-5-18 to 1066/5-5-5-15 and got ~ 5 % speed up. ____________ >Das Deutsche Cafe. The German Cafe.< | |
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Wow, I only have one mobile GTX 260M (basically a shrunk desktop 9800 GT) with a P7350 CPU. That's only 112 shaders, compared to your 864! I will see what happens when I switch off one CPU core, or both. But - if it's a mobile GPU in a laptop/notebook - you must look to the GPU temps. Like I said, because of boinc.exe and System activity/peaks, CPU and GPU tasks are disturbed. If you work on your laptop, also if you have a big WU cache, this will disturb the GPU calculation. (if the CPU isn't idle) Because, nearly all progs have 'normal' priority also boinc.exe . CPU tasks have 'low', GPU tasks have 'lower than normal'. If a prog with 'normal' priority have activity, all under 'normal' will be disturbed. So CPU and GPU tasks. BOINC and/or the OS (Windows) isn't smart enough to disturb in the priority hierarchy of the tasks. That first only CPU tasks and if all CPU tasks stopped then GPU tasks. -------------------------------------------- It's not possible to make BOINC more intelligent? ____________ >Das Deutsche Cafe. The German Cafe.< | |
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If you don't mind my asking, what are your cards OC'd to? On my 3000+ I leave the CPU idle to feed the GPU (GTX216), and at 700/1480/1025 I'm getting around 9,500 RAC. Ahh, the mem clock may account for some RAC, but I wouldn't think 3000! EDIT: Just upped the clocks to 700/1485/1040, will see what happens.. Yeah, my card is in a PCI-e v1 x16 slot. I'm only using DDR400 @ stock (using 11/9 divider, as the next one up is very buggy on my board) @ 3-3-3-7-1T, so again if I had your setup, I could probably get another 5% or so..
Check.. I was almost worried I didn't have the v2.3 dlls, but a quick cmd -> fc showed that I did.. I'm wondering if its simply the fact that my CPU/RAM are getting a bit old (going to celebrate their 5 year birthday in April!) Thankfully I almost having everything I need to piece together my i7 920 setup :) my GA-EX58-UD4P should be arriving this week, which just leaves the cpu (i7 920), and RAM (thinking of going with 6gb OCZ Reaper 1800mhz kit) | |
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Later Beta 190.38 Notebook drivers are available in the 2nd post in this thread: Cool, thanks. I downloaded and installed the 190.38 beta drivers yesterday, and got the CUDA V2.3 DLLs from Lunatics, and now my long WUs finish in ~25 minutes, instead of ~45 minutes. I am a bit concerned though, how can just a CUDA version upgrade cause such a massive increase in efficiency? I hope the Lunatics team are not taking any shortcuts in SETI@Home's algorithms just to get the highest RAC. But - if it's a mobile GPU in a laptop/notebook - you must look to the GPU temps. Yes, I have to watch the temperatures sometimes. I've set the system to shut down if the GPU temp goes above 88C. The max is around 85C with the GPU at stock speeds (550/1375/950), and with the driver and CUDA DLL upgrade, the average temp is now 82C. Also, there is absolutely no extra disk or CPU activity when I leave the laptop alone, except the occasional indexing. I don't have antivirus software installed (yes, I know the risks), and Windows 7 is very good about keeping CPU activity minimal. ____________ | |
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