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Message 941190 - Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 20:19:45 UTC
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I attached to another project about a week ago on the same host - both at 100% (50% host).

Anyhow, the other project started slowly climbing in RAC and SETI started dropping slightly, except for a spike today after a big chunk of reports went thru, at that point which SETI messages in BOINC started:

Sun Oct 18 12:20:13 2009 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Oct 18 12:20:13 2009 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
Sun Oct 18 12:20:18 2009 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Oct 18 12:20:18 2009 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)


There are no remaining SETI tasks on my host (iMac), only the other project, tho both projects remain active locally (not suspended, etc.)

The advanced stats host average graph in BOINC (except for the blip I'm attributing to the mentioned flurry of last reports on SETI) shows the other project almost in a near-vertical climb, vs the slow ramp of the past week.

Is this is normal and connected to debt or something that just took a week to kick in?

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Message 941204 - Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 22:10:02 UTC - in response to Message 941190.
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I attached to another project about a week ago on the same host - both at 100% (50% host).

Anyhow, the other project started slowly climbing in RAC and SETI started dropping slightly, except for a spike today after a big chunk of reports went thru, at that point which SETI messages in BOINC started:

Sun Oct 18 12:20:13 2009 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sun Oct 18 12:20:13 2009 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
Sun Oct 18 12:20:18 2009 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sun Oct 18 12:20:18 2009 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)


There are no remaining SETI tasks on my host (iMac), only the other project, tho both projects remain active locally (not suspended, etc.)

The advanced stats host average graph in BOINC (except for the blip I'm attributing to the mentioned flurry of last reports on SETI) shows the other project almost in a near-vertical climb, vs the slow ramp of the past week.

Is this is normal and connected to debt or something that just took a week to kick in?

Lack of work is only normal in the sense that the servers like to act up on weekends when noone is around to give them a swift kick.

Your Seti RAC will drop as the other project climbs since the CPU now shares time between two projects. The overall total RAC should work out to about the same.
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Message 941213 - Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 23:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 941204.

Lack of work is only normal in the sense that the servers like to act up on weekends when noone is around to give them a swift kick.


I suppose it could be server side on SETI, tho it doesn't seem to be. I'm too far to kick anything but myself, which didn't work either.

Your Seti RAC will drop as the other project climbs since the CPU now shares time between two projects. The overall total RAC should work out to about the same.


Saw that from other posts and FAQ's and expected it, but thanks. Just don't understand the sudden shift to no SETI, given that I attached to 2nd project a week ago.

I suppose I could request no new tasks, suspend or detach from the other project and see if SETI comes back - just saw a few mentions of the "debt ratio" when on multiple projects, and wondered if that might be the reason.

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Message 941216 - Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 23:52:03 UTC
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I should have added...
Don't worry about it. Boinc is designed to take care of things on its own. As you can see from my signature I run many projects. In the long run it always balance out to my assigned resource share. Seti didn't have work to supply when Boinc ask for it. It will keep trying until it gets some.
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Message 941220 - Posted: 19 Oct 2009, 0:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 941216.
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Apologies, should have added some context myself... I am slowly learning how it all ties together.

No worries here, other than I'd rather be learning (and flailing about) in some sort of BOINC sandbox than on actual projects - despite the mentioned redundancy, every error slows the projects up, upsets the apple carts for those in horse races, etc.

ps - I'd love to see something like the mentioned sandbox, as well as an updated version of the unofficial BOINC wiki as the official front-end for for BOINC - it's great, tho I do understand and appreciate the complexities of all of this as being largely volunteer run

(edited to close out - appears that adding on the project caused a shift in debt and priority to exclusively run the non-SETI project, based on the wiki- time will tell - am subscribed tho, further info welcomed, thx.)

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Message 944840 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 13:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 941220.
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Hope it's ok to hijack this thread as the title is relevant.

I felt like taking a peek at my BOINC stats today, as you do, and realised that there are no tasks running.
I've closed down and reopened BOINC - Still nothing.
I've pressed the update option - Still nothing.
I have reset the Project & detatched/reattached - Still nothing.

As I am not technical in anyway my brain would just explode if I were to try and think it through... so could you please help?

Oh, almost forgot... I'm only running the one project: Seti@Home.
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PROBLEM SOLVED... BOINC decided to download all 4 tasks at the same time, and took a total of 25 mins to do so. Phew. *Buys a beer for all who read this thread and pondered*

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Message 944863 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 16:57:26 UTC

SETI is on a slowdown because of a few things.

The ALFA antenna has been in maintenance for the last month, so we have run out of new work.

SETI has been testing a new software radar blanker which works well but slow. They knew the weekend was coming and could not pull enough data to run the weekend (it takes hours to pull the data up from the archives to give us a few hours of crunch time.

Please read the Technical News and Home Page as they explain these things.

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Message 949804 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009, 22:50:33 UTC

Hello,

Does Seti not have any tasks still?

I keep updating and nothing. Also it is saying "Communication Deferred". I been a SETI user since last year.

I just re-downloaded and installed BOINC.


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Message 949825 - Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 0:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 949804.

As per this post by Matt Lebofsky:

... until we ran out of work to send out. Turns out the last 10 files I brought up from Arecibo are all broken. <sad trombone>Fwa wa wa waaaaa</sad trombone>. This is particularly frustrating as I was busting my hump trying to get enough work on line before the long holiday weekend, and now we have zero. So it'll be to me and Jeff to check in over the next few days and kick the pipeline along. We'll be out of real work to send out until this evening at the earliest, and quite probably hit long periods of no work throughout the weekend. Fine.

From Thursday 26-11-09 till Sunday 29-11-09 it's the Thanksgiving long weekend in the USA. Give the guys at Seti some chance to celebrate it as well.
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Message 949843 - Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 3:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 949804.

Hello,

Does Seti not have any tasks still?

I keep updating and nothing. Also it is saying "Communication Deferred". I been a SETI user since last year.

I just re-downloaded and installed BOINC.


One of the servers has decided to malfunction recently. It is the Thanksgiving Holiday, BOINC projects do not as a general rule have the staff to ensure 24/7 uptime. I am certain they will be working on the problem on Monday.
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Message 950013 - Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 22:25:37 UTC
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My queue is completely empty.

The Server Status Page shows that there are tasks available, a download server is running, and several splitters are running...


Data Distribution State SETI@home # Astropulse # As of* Results ready to send 101,815 60 5h download server 1 bane Running ap_splitter4 bambi Running mb_splitter6 lando Running mb_splitter8 lando Running mb_splitter10 bambi Running mb_splitter11 bambi Running

Yet, I still can't get any tasks.
SETI has been this way for days.
Is there any prognosis? ...estimated time of repair?


11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11] 11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx 11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM CUDA device: GeForce 8800 GT (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, est. 60GFLOPS) 11/26/2009 1:58:58 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 1:59:23 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:00:33 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:00:33 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:00:54 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:00:55 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:00:58 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:02:03 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:02:03 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:02:24 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:02:26 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:02:28 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:03:33 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:03:33 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:03:55 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:03:57 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:03:58 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM Benchmark results: 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM Number of CPUs: 4 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM 2568 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM 5554 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

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Message 950015 - Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 22:32:30 UTC - in response to Message 950013.

Yet, I still can't get any tasks.
SETI has been this way for days.
Is there any prognosis? ...estimated time of repair?

Seti has had a cascade of problems, with some servers going down. The latest is that the router for the internet connection is down. They tried to restart it, but failed. It being the Thanksgiving long weekend in the US, I wouldn't expect anything before Monday.

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Message 950062 - Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 4:33:36 UTC - in response to Message 950013.

My queue is completely empty.

The Server Status Page shows that there are tasks available, a download server is running, and several splitters are running...


Data Distribution State SETI@home # Astropulse # As of* Results ready to send 101,815 60 5h download server 1 bane Running ap_splitter4 bambi Running mb_splitter6 lando Running mb_splitter8 lando Running mb_splitter10 bambi Running mb_splitter11 bambi Running

Yet, I still can't get any tasks.
SETI has been this way for days.
Is there any prognosis? ...estimated time of repair?


11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11] 11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx 11/26/2009 1:58:53 PM CUDA device: GeForce 8800 GT (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, est. 60GFLOPS) 11/26/2009 1:58:58 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 1:59:23 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:00:33 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:00:33 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:00:54 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:00:55 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:00:58 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:02:03 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:02:03 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:02:24 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:02:26 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:02:28 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:03:33 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/26/2009 2:03:33 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks 11/26/2009 2:03:55 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/26/2009 2:03:57 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/26/2009 2:03:58 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM Benchmark results: 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM Number of CPUs: 4 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM 2568 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 11/26/2009 2:13:18 PM 5554 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

The "as of" column indicates the data is 5 hours old (in other words completely unrelieable as the burn rate for tasks is around a million a day if everything is running smoothly - which they aren't).
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