Funny (Oct 15 2009)

Message boards : Technical News : Funny (Oct 15 2009)

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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1375 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 940199 - Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 19:08:57 UTC
	FYI, the replica database server caught up and I turned the result views back on, etc. There are complaints that some results may have disappeared from the beta database. Bob and Eric are looking into it. In the last thread, this old post of mine (from 2005) was quoted to point out the comedic irony that little has improved despite my claims: The SETI@home Classic backend is a tangled mess. There have been many problems over the years, most of which were invisible to the participants. None of these problems were fatal to the project or its science, but have resulted in an obnoxious web of ridiculous dependencies, confusing configurations, and unweildy databases. I am practically drooling dreaming of day when we get to turn all that stuff off and be done with it already. The BOINC backend is sooooo much easier to deal with. I can see why this is funny (and I agree that it is), but allow me to point out in case people want to use this as some sort of sign of failure: 1. With the old server backend there was 0% chance that science would ever get done. Things like the NTPCkr were impossible in the old days. 2. We had a larger staff at the time of that post. Since we are currently working with less labor resources comparisons are unfair. 3. Our uptime has been much better since moving to BOINC, and downtime has been far more productive (users can work on other projects, etc.). 4. Yeah I admit there are still ridiculous dependencies, confusing configurations, and unweildy databases, but it's a completely different set than what I was referring to back then, and generally things are better across the board. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 11987 Credit: 17,894,577 RAC: 59,956	Message 940209 - Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 19:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 940199.
	At least you saw the humor. More of that is needed at times. ____________
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Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 11633 Credit: 1,988,847 RAC: 4,231	Message 940217 - Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 21:21:55 UTC - in response to Message 940199.
	I can see why this is funny (and I agree that it is), but allow me to point out in case people want to use this as some sort of sign of failure That never was my intention. I just thought that there were some small similarities between your post in the last thread and that little snippet. The BOINC backend is way easier to deal with, yet if things go wrong they'll go wrong anyway. Nothing that you can do about it. Thanks for taking it up with humor. A smile was all I went for and hopefully it made your day that little bit better. :-) ____________ Jord - BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC User Wiki Real is just a matter of perception.
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LiliKrist Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 333 Credit: 143,167 RAC: 0	Message 940293 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 4:44:01 UTC
	Nothing is easier than before, because the problem will always improvise following the gadgets which you used. Particularly those related to computers and internet smile ____________ N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L
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Message boards : Technical News : Funny (Oct 15 2009)