Pending Credit?

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jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 717 Credit: 61,403,244 RAC: 70,639	Message 937855 - Posted: 6 Oct 2009, 0:18:24 UTC
	I just noticed that the line for "Pending Credit > View" in the Account Preferences display (which was just after "SETI@home classic CPU time" is now missing from that display. Is this intentional, or a problem caused by the just-over outage? ____________
	ID: 937855 ·

Roundel Send message Joined: 1 Feb 06 Posts: 21 Credit: 6,850,211 RAC: 0	Message 937856 - Posted: 6 Oct 2009, 0:26:16 UTC
	Looking at tasks under each computer I get a "This feature is turned off temporarily" Probably to conserve traffic for uploads and downloads. ____________
	ID: 937856 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 937857 - Posted: 6 Oct 2009, 0:30:42 UTC
	As this is normally done from the Replica Database which is offline until Maintenace tomorrow (then a bit of catch up). Don't worry about "pendings"... They will eitehr have credit or still be pending... Regards ____________ Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.
	ID: 937857 ·

jravin Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 717 Credit: 61,403,244 RAC: 70,639	Message 937882 - Posted: 6 Oct 2009, 2:22:45 UTC - in response to Message 937857.
	As this is normally done from the Replica Database which is offline until Maintenace tomorrow (then a bit of catch up). Don't worry about "pendings"... They will eitehr have credit or still be pending... Regards Thanks - that makes sense...I know the data won't be lost, I just like to see my total pending credit occasionally. ____________
	ID: 937882 ·

Pilot Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 534 Credit: 5,160,706 RAC: 0	Message 938174 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 20:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 937882.
	As this is normally done from the Replica Database which is offline until Maintenace tomorrow (then a bit of catch up). Don't worry about "pendings"... They will eitehr have credit or still be pending... Regards Thanks - that makes sense...I know the data won't be lost, I just like to see my total pending credit occasionally. Ha Ha reactivation of Pending Credit is still pending:) ____________ When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.
	ID: 938174 ·

Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 938186 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 20:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 938174.
	According to the Tech News, there is a problem with one of the datbases that is preventing the Replica from coming back up. The resolution may have to wait until next Tuesday Maintenance. As this is normally done from the Replica Database which is offline until Maintenace tomorrow (then a bit of catch up). Don't worry about "pendings"... They will eitehr have credit or still be pending... Regards Thanks - that makes sense...I know the data won't be lost, I just like to see my total pending credit occasionally. Ha Ha reactivation of Pending Credit is still pending:) ____________ Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.
	ID: 938186 ·

Pilot Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 534 Credit: 5,160,706 RAC: 0	Message 938194 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 21:27:26 UTC - in response to Message 938186.
	According to the Tech News, there is a problem with one of the datbases that is preventing the Replica from coming back up. The resolution may have to wait until next Tuesday Maintenance. As this is normally done from the Replica Database which is offline until Maintenace tomorrow (then a bit of catch up). Don't worry about "pendings"... They will eitehr have credit or still be pending... Regards Thanks - that makes sense...I know the data won't be lost, I just like to see my total pending credit occasionally. Ha Ha reactivation of Pending Credit is still pending:) Thanks Papa... I missed that post but will take time to read it anyway:) ____________ When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.
	ID: 938194 ·

Fred J. Verster Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3232 Credit: 31,585,541 RAC: 1	Message 938232 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 23:33:05 UTC - in response to Message 938194. Last modified: 7 Oct 2009, 23:34:16 UTC
	Hi, then I'll be pending for awhile, too. But, don't forget tokeep on crunching ;^) ____________ Knight Who Says Ni N!, OUT numbered.................
	ID: 938232 ·

BIG-BILL Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 6 Credit: 287,954 RAC: 10	Message 938236 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 23:58:07 UTC - in response to Message 938232.
	BTW......Is it normal to have hundreds of completed tasks pending credit?
	ID: 938236 ·

52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 494 Credit: 11,300,432 RAC: 3,597	Message 938246 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 1:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 938236. Last modified: 8 Oct 2009, 1:14:47 UTC
	BTW......Is it normal to have hundreds of completed tasks pending credit? According to Vyper, no, hundreds is not normal. Normal for him is ~ 4,000 pendings ;-) In terms of gross generalizations, over the long haul, and everything else being equal and smooth, my pendings hover around (( 3 times RAC )/80) , but day to day that can be highly variable on the mix, assuming RAC is matured to 30 days, and assuming the avg splittering of WU's is about 80 credits per WU (which was the estimate I got after crunching my fist 2000 WU's).
	ID: 938246 ·

WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6822 Credit: 17,156,365 RAC: 25,872	Message 938247 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 1:14:07 UTC - in response to Message 938236.
	BTW......Is it normal to have hundreds of completed tasks pending credit? Yes, is the simple answer, The average amount depends on your computers cache setting in comparison to the 'result turnround time'. If your cache were to be equal to the 'result turnround time' then on average, half of your tasks will go into the pending tray. If you do mainly MB work this means that your pendings total will probably be about 3 +/- 1 * RAC.
	ID: 938247 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,942,052 RAC: 78,452	Message 938337 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 14:58:03 UTC - in response to Message 938236.
	BTW......Is it normal to have hundreds of completed tasks pending credit? My pending credit generally runs about 40,000-50,000 credits. Most of the tasks are 85 or 100 some odd credits. So that comes to 400-500 pending tasks. Which seems to be pretty normal. ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
	ID: 938337 ·

HAL Send message Joined: 28 Mar 03 Posts: 704 Credit: 870,617 RAC: 0	Message 938341 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 15:04:55 UTC
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! ____________ Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079
	ID: 938341 ·

Fred J. Verster Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3232 Credit: 31,585,541 RAC: 1	Message 938342 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 15:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 938337.
	Hi, normally a few times your RAC, but it depends of your wingmen/women, and there isn't a rule. As far as I know! ____________ Knight Who Says Ni N!, OUT numbered.................
	ID: 938342 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34211 Credit: 345,449,328 RAC: 553,673	Message 938350 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 15:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 938341.
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! It's only turned off temporarily until the database troubles get sorted.... Matt said he 'might' turn it back on today. If not, we might have to wait until after next Tuesday's outage...but it will be back. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 938350 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,942,052 RAC: 78,452	Message 938394 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 18:40:52 UTC - in response to Message 938350.
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! It's only turned off temporarily until the database troubles get sorted.... Matt said he 'might' turn it back on today. If not, we might have to wait until after next Tuesday's outage...but it will be back. I think that they should keep the link there and have it open a message that says "This function relies on the replica database server. Which is currently offline. Please check the Technical News postings for more information." ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
	ID: 938394 ·

FiveHamlet Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0	Message 938400 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 18:59:18 UTC
	My last Pending Credit was around 275,000, before the weekend crash. No idea what it may be now but that doesn't matter. All credits will be awarded as and when wingpersons cach up. Even if there is more downtime. Dave ____________
	ID: 938400 ·

1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 938405 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 19:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 938394.
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! It's only turned off temporarily until the database troubles get sorted.... Matt said he 'might' turn it back on today. If not, we might have to wait until after next Tuesday's outage...but it will be back. I think that they should keep the link there and have it open a message that says "This function relies on the replica database server. Which is currently offline. Please check the Technical News postings for more information." I think it should be possible for a link to disappear and not have people assume that is "disallowed" instead of temporarily down for technical reasons. ____________
	ID: 938405 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,942,052 RAC: 78,452	Message 938427 - Posted: 8 Oct 2009, 20:38:09 UTC - in response to Message 938405.
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! It's only turned off temporarily until the database troubles get sorted.... Matt said he 'might' turn it back on today. If not, we might have to wait until after next Tuesday's outage...but it will be back. I think that they should keep the link there and have it open a message that says "This function relies on the replica database server. Which is currently offline. Please check the Technical News postings for more information." I think it should be possible for a link to disappear and not have people assume that is "disallowed" instead of temporarily down for technical reasons. I would too. Except whenever it does occur ther are always a few new thread about it, when it occured the week before and 5 other people asked the same question. ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
	ID: 938427 ·

1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 938479 - Posted: 9 Oct 2009, 0:00:17 UTC - in response to Message 938427.
	how can one know what thier pending credit is to begin with? Finding out is not being allowed anymore! It's only turned off temporarily until the database troubles get sorted.... Matt said he 'might' turn it back on today. If not, we might have to wait until after next Tuesday's outage...but it will be back. I think that they should keep the link there and have it open a message that says "This function relies on the replica database server. Which is currently offline. Please check the Technical News postings for more information." I think it should be possible for a link to disappear and not have people assume that is "disallowed" instead of temporarily down for technical reasons. I would too. Except whenever it does occur ther are always a few new thread about it, when it occured the week before and 5 other people asked the same question. I suspect that the BOINC design didn't anticipate a need to turn features on and off temporarily -- the feature is off because the replica fell behind and is being recovered (as we speak). Adding the ability to substitute a message for a feature would be a BOINC enhancement. ____________
	ID: 938479 ·

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