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Message 936693 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 15:22:31 UTC

I had this program back in 2000. It was its own program and when it finished a piece of data you had to send it. Easy stuff.
But now its called "boinc" with a ton of things in it. I dont know what they are or if im suppose to pick them all. I did, however, pick Seti from the list and i think it is analyzing data. My screen saver says Seti @ Home and it shows bars and graphs moving along. Some of the data says complete. So how do i send it? I dont see any buttons that say submit finished data or send or whatever. Also on the home page it says "When prompted, enter the URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu" but i was never prompted to do this.
Am i doing anything right or do i need to delete it all and start over?
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Message 936698 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 15:48:56 UTC - in response to Message 936693.  

BOINC is the managing program. It will take care of uploading finished work, reporting it to the database (uploading and reporting is a two step program) and downloading new work.

So in essence, you did everything correctly and shouldn't need to do anything.

Uploading will happen immediately on a task being finished, as long as you gave BOINC network access. Reporting will happen after 24 hours, to try to get as many finished tasks in the report as possible.

Uploading doesn't take (much) overhead, as it's essentially writing a little bit of data on the server's hard drive. Reporting happens to the database, where reporting one task takes as much overhead (CPU, memory, database reads and writes) as reporting more than one task does. So the preference is to report more than one task.
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Message 936755 - Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 0:03:49 UTC - in response to Message 936698.  

Ah ok. Its all automatic now. Thats good. :)
The program is a bit intimidating at first with all the different companies and options but it looks like i have it going correctly for Seti.
Thanks!
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Message 936770 - Posted: 30 Sep 2009, 3:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 936755.  

Ah ok. Its all automatic now. Thats good. :)
The program is a bit intimidating at first with all the different companies and options but it looks like i have it going correctly for Seti.
Thanks!

For a better understanding of the Boinc system, checkout the FAQ link in Ageless signature as well as my link to the unofficial Wiki.

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Message 937138 - Posted: 1 Oct 2009, 14:34:45 UTC - in response to Message 936770.  
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I had a problem this morning and since this is the only thing I downloaded or did new to my PC in a long time I figured ill post the problem and see if you guys know of it.

The seti screensaver runs at night. 2 nights it has run so far but this morning my PC suddenly restarted without me touching it. When windows was done loading it said, "Microsoft has encountered a serious error." I clicked on view details and it said there was a problem with my IP address and also my video card drivers are out of date. I dont know why it would suddenly restart over that. Boinc was the only thing running. So i updated my video card, but it didnt give any instructions on the IP error. Has anyone had this happen to them or know what the IP error means?

Plus when i hit ctrl-alt-del it shows 2 processes running, both called the same thing, astropulse_5.05_windows_intelx86.exe
Is there suppose to be 2 of them?

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EDIT: I decided to look into it a bit further. I checked event viewer. Start > run then typed eventvwr. Under Application Error Records, it shows a BOINC error at the time of restart which was around 9:30am.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: BOINC
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1
Date: 10/1/2009
Time: 9:33:31 AM
User: N/A
Computer: JOESPC
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1 ) in Source ( BOINC ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: BOINC error: 183, Another instance of BOINC is running.
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Not sure what any of that means lol, but im hoping someone here will know whats going on.
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Message 937140 - Posted: 1 Oct 2009, 15:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 937138.  

I had a problem this morning and since this is the only thing I downloaded or did new to my PC in a long time I figured ill post the problem and see if you guys know of it.

The seti screensaver runs at night. 2 nights it has run so far but this morning my PC suddenly restarted without me touching it. When windows was done loading it said, "Microsoft has encountered a serious error." I clicked on view details and it said there was a problem with my IP address and also my video card drivers are out of date. I dont know why it would suddenly restart over that. Boinc was the only thing running. So i updated my video card, but it didnt give any instructions on the IP error. Has anyone had this happen to them or know what the IP error means?

Plus when i hit ctrl-alt-del it shows 2 processes running, both called the same thing, astropulse_5.05_windows_intelx86.exe
Is there suppose to be 2 of them?

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EDIT: I decided to look into it a bit further. I checked event viewer. Start > run then typed eventvwr. Under Application Error Records, it shows a BOINC error at the time of restart which was around 9:30am.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: BOINC
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1
Date: 10/1/2009
Time: 9:33:31 AM
User: N/A
Computer: JOESPC
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1 ) in Source ( BOINC ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: BOINC error: 183, Another instance of BOINC is running.
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Not sure what any of that means lol, but im hoping someone here will know whats going on.

BOINC does tend to work the CPU a bit harder than the idle process, so keeping the dust blown out of the computer has become VERY important.

You have a dual CPU system, so BOINC will use both CPUs if you allow it to.

In answer to a previous question. It is up to you which projects you support and the fraction of CPU time given to each. SETI has a weekly outage for maintainance on Tuesdays starting around 10:00 a.m. Pacific (GMT -8), and lasting for several hours. You might want to add a couple more projects to ensure that your CPUs stay busy during the outage.


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Message 937160 - Posted: 1 Oct 2009, 16:37:45 UTC - in response to Message 937138.  

And since you are also processing CUDA tasks with your Nvidia card, you should disable the screensaver, as the graphics card is busy computing for SETI. Doing both jobs can cause the problems you've seen.

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