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Message 35986 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:14:31 UTC
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Downgrade to 4.09
Edit your general preferences for home, school and work, whichever is applicable.
Ensure that Switch between applications every is set to a value greater than 0. 60 is recommended.
Update your client via Project - Update.
Make sure that the messages show that your new settings are in use.

Then upgrade to 4.12

Please note that this is a quick-fix solution until something more "official" is announced.

Good Luck.

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Message 35990 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 35986.  
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Ralics post works!!!
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/forum_thread.php?id=5529


> Downgrade to 4.09
> Edit your general preferences for home, school and work, whichever is
> applicable.
> Ensure that Switch between applications every is set to a value greater
> than 0. 60 is recommended.
> Update your client via Project - Update.
> Make sure that the messages show that your new settings are in use.
>
> Then upgrade to 4.12
>
> Please note that this is a quick-fix solution until something more "official"
> is announced.
>
> Good Luck.
>
>http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/forum_thread.php?id=5529
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Message 35991 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 35986.  
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Your'e the man!!!!

Finally got the last machine to work with this!!!!

BIG thanks! ;)

@Berkeley: post this on the main page!
Aloha, Uli

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Message 35997 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:28:21 UTC - in response to Message 35990.  

> Here was mine I bet 4.12 reacts differently on a majority of units. Some thing

The units are not the factor.
Only people with school, home or work preferences are affected. The setting I mention does not appear to have been set for these, thus to BOINC it is "0" and these preferences override the primary ones if set.
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Message 36000 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:38:08 UTC - in response to Message 35997.  
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Message 36002 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 35997.  

> Only people with school, home or work preferences are affected. The setting I
> mention does not appear to have been set for these, thus to BOINC it is "0"
> and these preferences override the primary ones if set.
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Remember when that parameter (switch every xx minutes) was invented?
I bet, the guys @ Berkeley overlooked that time to copy the change over to already created profiles that didn't match the default profile.

Anyway, This belongs on the front page!

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Message 36005 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:42:24 UTC
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Just tried this Ralic and it worked like a dream. One thing of interest, when I adjusted my preferences at Seti, it didn't pick up on the update. I checked over at Climate and it had not updated there (it should). I updated it at Climate and it picked it up on update. Bit odd really!

Anyway cheers for this - yes it should be on the front page - come on admin!
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Message 36008 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 36002.  
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> I bet, the guys @ Berkeley overlooked that time to copy the change over to
Please don't turn this thread into a Berkeley bashing opportunity....

> Anyway, This belongs on the front page!
I disagree.
This is a public solution to help those that can implement it.
There may be a more elegant fix, and if so, then that fix would belong on the front page. ;-)

If thread visibility is the concern, we can simply keep bumping this thread to keep it at the top.
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Message 36010 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 15:49:54 UTC - in response to Message 36008.  

> This is a public solution to help those that can implement it.
> There may be a more elegant fix, and if so, then that fix would belong on the
> front page. ;-)
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The fix is simple:
If a parameter is not found it is normally initialized with 0.
In this special case this behaviour is bad. So this parameter should be initialized with 60. Simple as that.

BTW: I don't want to bash at anyone @ Berkeley. I'm a software developer myself and know how easy it is to overlook something like that ;)

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Message 36026 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 16:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 36010.  

> In this special case this behaviour is bad. So this parameter should be
> initialized with 60. Simple as that.
Agreed, and an elegant way to do that may be to release 4.13 with an in-built check to prevent a value less than 1. :)

> BTW: I don't want to bash at anyone @ Berkeley. I'm a software developer
My request was not intended to be taken personally and I apologise if that is how it came across. It's just that I notice any thread that points out a possible mistake, is almost guaranteed to turn into a bashing exercise. Just thought I'd try and prevent that from happening to this one.
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Message 36027 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 16:23:17 UTC
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For me works a similary workaround:

in global_prefs.xml every line with
[cpu_scheduling_period_minutes][/cpu_scheduling_period_minutes]
changing to
[cpu_scheduling_period_minutes]60[/cpu_scheduling_period_minutes]

P.S. use greather than, lower than instead of [ and ]




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Message 36054 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 17:01:08 UTC

ralic,

You sir are freaking brilliant. You have my undying gratitude!

Best Regards,

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Message 36067 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 17:10:40 UTC - in response to Message 35986.  

No more lock ups. Great!

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Message 36091 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 17:32:10 UTC

Would you need to do this even if you are only running 1 project? (SETI@Home) What is the impact that "switching between applications" every 60 minutes will have when you're only running one project application?

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Message 36095 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 17:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 36091.  
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> Would you need to do this even if you are only running 1 project? (SETI@Home)
Yes.

> What is the impact that "switching between applications" every 60 minutes will
> have when you're only running one project application?
I leave this to the devs for a proper answer, however in my case I noticed extreme disk activity, and an unresponsive application, if the value is not set or set to 0.

For a single project, there should be no switching, however the setting does affect single project systems. (Well it affected one of mine...)
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Message 36099 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 17:43:15 UTC
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It has no impact (that I can tell anyway). I have 60 minutes set in my General Preferences (I do not have separate settings for Home/Work/School). One of my systems has SETI and CPDN and it alternates between the two every 60 minutes like it says. The other system runs only SETI and it just keeps running it without any problems.

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Message 36114 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 18:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 36027.  

Everything perfect. 2 desktops and 2 notebooks xp pro sp2. smooth as oil. thanks
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Message 36141 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 18:47:54 UTC - in response to Message 36095.  

Bravo Ralic. This works perfectly.

> > Would you need to do this even if you are only running 1 project?
> (SETI@Home)
> Yes.
>
> > What is the impact that "switching between applications" every 60 minutes
> will
> > have when you're only running one project application?
> I leave this to the devs for a proper answer, however in my case I noticed
> extreme disk activity, and an unresponsive application, if the value is not
> set or set to 0.
>
> For a single project, there should be no switching, however the setting does
> affect single project systems. (Well it affected one of mine...)
>
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Message 36169 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 19:21:00 UTC - in response to Message 35986.  
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Message 36194 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 20:04:22 UTC

Ralic's solution works like a charm. no BOINC freezing. Thank you very very much. I hope the Boinc guys do mention this on the front page.

Thanks once again
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