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Message 928707 - Posted: 26 Aug 2009, 4:27:39 UTC

This is the message I get when work is 100% completed, even though it says "Allow new tasks" on left of BOINC manager screen. I was using seti@home some years ages ago (before BOINC) and never had any trouble but I don't understand what it's doing here. I only started again a few days ago and decided to try milkyway@home too, but then when I had problems took it off.

I've copied the messages if it's any help: 8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Running under account Owner
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Home x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Memory: 510.79 MB physical, 1.22 GB virtual
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Disk: 74.52 GB total, 53.17 GB free
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Local time is UTC +12 hours
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM No CUDA devices found
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM No coprocessors
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Not using a proxy
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM SETI@home URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 5076659; location: (none); project prefs: default
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 23-Aug-2009 00:09:30)
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM SETI@home Host location: none
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM SETI@home General prefs: using your defaults
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 255.40MB
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 459.71MB
8/26/2009 7:12:17 AM Preferences limit disk usage to 37.26GB
8/26/2009 4:04:56 PM SETI@home update requested by user
8/26/2009 4:04:56 PM SETI@home update requested by user
8/26/2009 4:04:58 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
8/26/2009 4:04:58 PM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/26/2009 4:05:08 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed
8/26/2009 4:05:12 PM SETI@home update requested by user
8/26/2009 4:05:14 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
8/26/2009 4:05:14 PM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/26/2009 4:05:19 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed
8/26/2009 4:09:30 PM SETI@home work fetch resumed by user
8/26/2009 4:09:34 PM SETI@home work fetch suspended by user
8/26/2009 4:15:59 PM SETI@home update requested by user
8/26/2009 4:16:04 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
8/26/2009 4:16:04 PM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 26-Aug-2009 16:08:44)
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM SETI@home Host location: none
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM SETI@home General prefs: using your defaults
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 255.40MB
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 459.71MB
8/26/2009 4:16:09 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 37.26GB
8/26/2009 4:16:59 PM SETI@home update requested by user
8/26/2009 4:17:04 PM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
8/26/2009 4:17:04 PM SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
8/26/2009 4:17:09 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed

I did manage to get some work uploaded a couple of days ago but have no idea how!
Can anyone please help without getting too technical? otherwise I'll have to give up.
Thanks.

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Message 928740 - Posted: 26 Aug 2009, 7:37:58 UTC - in response to Message 928707.

This is the message I get when work is 100% completed, even though it says "Allow new tasks" on left of BOINC manager screen.

That's exactly your problem: the button shows what you get when you press it. If you look at the Status column in the Projects tab, you'll see "Won't get new tasks" - and that is exactly what you get.

So, press "Allow new tasks" and all will be fine.

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Message 929720 - Posted: 30 Aug 2009, 15:54:16 UTC

Is it the same if i've never completed any job......still no new tasks :(

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Message 929735 - Posted: 30 Aug 2009, 17:12:46 UTC - in response to Message 929720.

Is it the same if i've never completed any job......still no new tasks :(

Do you allow the computer to run while you are not active? Do you allow BOINC to process while you are active? Do you allow BOINC access to the network? Please check both your online settings and your local settings.
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Message 929736 - Posted: 30 Aug 2009, 17:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 929720.
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Is it the same if i've never completed any job......still no new tasks :(

What exactly is your problem? You had downloaded 12 tasks but then detached from SETI. Now you have 3 new tasks downloaded. Do they work? What does the Status field in the Tasks tab of BOINC manager tell (in advanced view)?

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Message 931842 - Posted: 7 Sep 2009, 23:30:23 UTC

Same problem as ID: 928707 except that mine hasn't aloowed any new task
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Message 931867 - Posted: 8 Sep 2009, 2:57:34 UTC - in response to Message 931842.

Same problem as ID: 928707 except that mine hasn't aloowed any new task

The button says what the state will be after the button is pushed. If the button says allow new tasks, that means that new tasks will be allowed after the button is pushed.
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Message 931956 - Posted: 8 Sep 2009, 16:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 928707.

I don't know what too do with this i downloaded now nothing, what next? Dennis
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Message 931972 - Posted: 8 Sep 2009, 20:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 931956.

I don't know what too do with this i downloaded now nothing, what next? Dennis

Welcome to Seti.
Unfortunately you joined at a time when the project has run out of new work. New data is on the way and should be available within a day or so. Just be patient let Boinc run and it will get work as soon as it is available. In the mean time you may want to check out the other Boinc based projects that you could join as a backup project. A short partial list can be reviewed at Choosing BOINC projects
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Message 933887 - Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 23:48:29 UTC

Messages keep telling me that Boinic needs 32 mb and that I've got 0.00 mb allocated. In fact I have 200 gb allocated. Also says I need an NVIDIA card, which is a new requirement and not going to happen.

I've had no problems up until the most recent project finished. What's up please?
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Message 933905 - Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 1:52:28 UTC - in response to Message 933887.

Messages keep telling me that Boinic needs 32 mb and that I've got 0.00 mb allocated. In fact I have 200 gb allocated. Also says I need an NVIDIA card, which is a new requirement and not going to happen.

I've had no problems up until the most recent project finished. What's up please?

There are 3 settings for disk usage and 2 for memory usage. Please review them all and make certain that NONE of them limit your usage of BOINC too drastically.

These are the settings I have for the Disk and Memory Usage settings:

Use at most 100 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use at most 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file (swap space)
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 50% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 90% of memory when computer is not in use

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Message 933974 - Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 7:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 933887.

Also says I need an NVIDIA card, which is a new requirement and not going to happen.

It's not a requirement. BOINC 6.6 just has a separate GPU scheduler. It'll run for 24 hours, with continuous ever growing back-offs, then it will do that only once a day.

If you set "Use Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) if available" to No (uncheck the option) in the project preferences, it won't bother you.
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Message 934286 - Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 15:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 933974.
Last modified: 18 Sep 2009, 15:12:49 UTC

These are the settings I have after adjusting according to your last message and I still get the same messages. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong in my settings.

Suspend work while computer is on battery power?
(matters only for portable computers) yes
Suspend work while computer is in use? no
Suspend GPU work while computer is in use?
Enforced by version 6.7+ no
'In use' means mouse/keyboard activity in last 3 minutes
Suspend work if no mouse/keyboard activity in last
(Needed to enter low-power mode on some computers)
Enforced by version 5.10.14+ --- minutes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while suspended?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most
Enforced by version 5.10 and earlier 2 processors
On multiprocessors, use at most
Enforced by version 6.1+ 100 % of the processors
Use at most
(Can be used to reduce CPU heat)
Enforced by version 5.6+ 100 percent of CPU time
Disk and memory usage
Use at most 10 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use at most 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file (swap space)
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 50% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8+ 90% of memory when computer is not in use
Network usage
Computer is connected to the Internet about every
(Leave blank or 0 if always connected.
BOINC will try to maintain at least this much work.) 0.1 days
Maintain enough work for an additional
Enforced by version 5.10+ 0.25 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) yes
Maximum download rate: no limit
Maximum upload rate: no limit
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by version 4.46+ (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no

Thanks for your time and help.

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Message 934291 - Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 15:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 934286.

Can you please check your BOINC Data directory to see if you have a global_prefs_override.xml file?

If you do have that file, then go BOINC Manager->Advanced View->Advanced->Preferences->Clear. This will clear the local preferences which will override the website preferences. The website preferences will then kick back in to use.

If in doubt, please post your BOINC start-up messages.
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Message 934294 - Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 15:31:40 UTC - in response to Message 934286.

I'm not sure if the problem is (lack of) disk space or system memory. So, check your Messages tab for lines like mine:

15/09/2009 11:37:56||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 444.98MB
15/09/2009 11:37:56||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 444.98MB
15/09/2009 11:37:56||Preferences limit disk usage to 1.86GB
copy them here if you aren't sure.

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Message 934804 - Posted: 20 Sep 2009, 16:58:57 UTC

It worked, thanks, Jord.
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