How to start another war...

Steppenwolf coined the term "heavy metal" on their first album, so how could anybody be playing it before that?

The first Steppenwolf album was released in 1968, but the band had been playing together as The Sparrows since January 1965. In Canada. Have to admit I don't know the early history of Black Sabbath.

If you're going to get all hung up on "style" and "content" of the music, you will wind up tracing it all back to Les Paul. Or maybe Bo Diddly. Neither of them are Canadian, but they still made really nice music.
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Heavy metal is all about the deep, hard sound and the doomy, eerie lyrics that go along with it. That doesn't describe Steppenwolf at all, does it?

Heavy metal is all about the deep, hard sound and the doomy, eerie lyrics that go along with it. That doesn't describe Steppenwolf at all, does it?

Then it sort of goes back to Gregorian chant, or maybe Celtic sea shanties, doesn't it?

Personally, I can't get too hung up on labels. They always make me suspicious, since so many of them are made up by The Man in order to push another load of crap on us. To me, it is all about what you like.

By the way, I still have Paranoid on vinyl. This is my second copy, bought in about 1973, after I wore the first one out. I got a better turntable about then, so this second one is still in decent shape. Especially when played LOUD :)

I agree it is all about what you like, and I like lots of different types of music (including a tad bit of country) with the exception of anything Rap, Hip Hop or Dance (and even then, there's an exception because I like Coolio's Gangster's Paradise).

Respectfully, I don't believe in any such "man" trying to control all things we see, hear and do. Marketing will always try to put their slant on it, but those of us intelligent enough to see through the BS of marketing knows that "the man" can never control us

I don't know at what point they changed it, but if its one of the originals the song War Pigs on vinyl has the original lyrics to War Pigs/Luke's Wall in which they sing about casting a Priest into the fire.

Well, it appears I have the politically correct edition. Oh well.

Still, it was an interesting experience, playing that LP for the first time in about 10 years. You are right about the doomy, eerie sound. I had forgotten how slow they sometimes played, for electrical rock type music.

I prefer to find similarities between bands, rather than putting them in stamp collecting kind of categories. The other band that kept popping into my mind while listening to War Pigs and Iron Man was Blue Rodeo. Clearly not heavy metal, some would say not even really rock. But they have the same stately pace and sombre lyrics, especially in some of their early electric stuff.

And I guess that brings us back to Eric's attempt to fan the flames in the whole country versus rock thing. Not buying it. There are really only two kinds of music: music you like, and music you don't like. Even "music" can be too restrictive a label. If you insist on rhythm and melody, you never get to discover things like the Nihilist Spasm Band. From right here in London.

Here is a nice easy piece to introduce you to the NSB.
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On second thought....

It can't be much of an accord, given that "Donnie" isn't much of a rock and roller, and "Marie" isn't all that country.

The problem with a two party system is that so called moderates usually write the compromises.

The problem with a two party system is that so called moderates usually write the compromises.

I'm perfectly okay with a two-party system as long as the bands are good, and they have an open bar.

The two-party system is usually B.Y.O.B, and the entertainment is usually watching people knit.

Bring Your Own Band?? Could get crowded.

Actually, I think she is crocheting.

And, I think he meant Bring Your Own Burgers. In case it's a vegetarian thing.

"I didn't reach the top of the food chain to eat salad!" Nihilist Spasm Band
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Personally, I find any discussion of evolutionary differences between men and women utterly fascinating, partly because it explains so much in our daily life (as Ned pointed out) and partly because I am, by nature, a $hit disturber.

Don't remember the speaker's name, but many years ago I heard a lecturer sum it up all beautifully. If you don't believe there are fundamental differences in how we work, just watch how men and women handle shared tasks. Watch two men moving a fridge through a narrow doorway. Lots of gestures, facial expressions, quiet grunts, and almost spooky understanding of each others intent, getting the job done with minimal noise. Just like hunting mammoths. Now listen (and I do mean listen) to two women doing anything together. Just like they were scaring away small predators while gathering roots and berries. We are all hard wired, it seems.

By the way, the lyricist for the NSB is (obviously) a man.
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