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Message 920478 - Posted: 22 Jul 2009, 22:49:29 UTC

I used to see a stat that showed what our pending credit was. It has disappeared. Why? Thanks in advance for the answer.

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Message 920488 - Posted: 22 Jul 2009, 23:28:10 UTC - in response to Message 920478.
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I used to see a stat that showed what our pending credit was. It has disappeared. Why? Thanks in advance for the answer.

Dennis A

It's been temporarily disable to reduce load on the servers. As you may be aware there have been problems with uploads recently. As the admin's try to let things catch up, it is best to remove the extra load on the database by disabling some database searches.

No idea when the features will be turned back on.
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Message 930450 - Posted: 2 Sep 2009, 20:16:40 UTC

I uploaded a completed SETI work unit on Aug 30 and it is still "pending." Units posted after that date have already been validated. Is this normal, or should I accept that this unit was just lost in the system or some server breakdown?

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Message 930462 - Posted: 2 Sep 2009, 20:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 930450.
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I uploaded a completed SETI work unit on Aug 30 and it is still "pending." Units posted after that date have already been validated. Is this normal, or should I accept that this unit was just lost in the system or some server breakdown?

Thank you.

CJN (old participant, 1999, finally getting back into it after a few years hiatus)

[edit]Since the post has been moved, it's no longer off topic :-)[/edit]Why do you post under this thread? Your question is totally off topic. Nevertheless, there's (probably) nothing lost. Depending on the type of work unit, it can remain pending for over a month.

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Message 930465 - Posted: 2 Sep 2009, 20:51:53 UTC - in response to Message 930450.

I uploaded a completed SETI work unit on Aug 30 and it is still "pending." Units posted after that date have already been validated. Is this normal, or should I accept that this unit was just lost in the system or some server breakdown?

Thank you.

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Each Work Unit is sent to two computers. The first task is pending until the second returns the task and they validate against each other. If the results do not validate, or a task is not returned by the due date, another task is sent from the WU. Once a task is validated against its counterpart(s) it is granted credit. In the rare case where a third task is sent out, and two validate and the third does not, the third is not granted credit.
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Message 930471 - Posted: 2 Sep 2009, 21:03:36 UTC - in response to Message 930465.

Very helpful reply. Thank you.

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Message 938092 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 8:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 920478.

I just upgraded to 6.6.38 why does it not show pending credits anymore?[/b] And a lot of the other functions are no longer working.

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Message 938094 - Posted: 7 Oct 2009, 9:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 938092.

I assume that you are talking about server-side functions, which have nothing to do with your BOINC client version.

The pending-credits information (and several other) is taken from the replica database, which is currently offline (see the Server status page and Technical news).

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Message 940374 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 14:27:49 UTC
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What's with personal statistics? I've got a lot of Timed Out Response tasks, although 100% sure that all WU were returned in time and even earlier. Also, I see 18 active WU in my BOINC client and 120+ on the website. After their deadline they will also turned to be invalid and no credit will be granted.

Just forget about several days of computation? :(

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Message 940522 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 20:52:38 UTC - in response to Message 940374.

What's with personal statistics? I've got a lot of Timed Out Response tasks, although 100% sure that all WU were returned in time and even earlier. Also, I see 18 active WU in my BOINC client and 120+ on the website. After their deadline they will also turned to be invalid and no credit will be granted.

Just forget about several days of computation? :(

What is likely to have happened is that your computer asked for work from the project, and the project assigned work but the message got lost on the way to your computer. These are called Ghoset WUs.
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Message 942957 - Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 18:29:49 UTC

I had a pending credit awaiting validation for about ten days then suddenly it disappeared this past weekend, no reason given nor granted. I have the WU if it's needed.

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Message 942960 - Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 18:44:55 UTC

once a WU is completed by both Wingmen it will dropp off the list within 24 hours. Perhaps this is all that happened
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Message 942966 - Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 19:11:48 UTC - in response to Message 942960.

It must have been granted late Friday then erased but I have a nagging doubt I'm missing 1 WU. I wish all previous WU's could be verified and not disappear after 24 hours. Thks anyway.
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Message 951954 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 14:42:31 UTC

I currently have 5 WUs, beginning on November 10th, still waiting for validation. Any news on when these are credited?
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Message 951963 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 15:23:12 UTC - in response to Message 951954.

Whenever your current or any future wingmen complete them.

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Message 951965 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 15:27:22 UTC - in response to Message 951954.

I currently have 5 WUs, beginning on November 10th, still waiting for validation. Any news on when these are credited?


All workunits require two nearly identical results in order to be validated and credited. Since two are required, the same workunit is sent out to two different accounts initially. If only one comes back, it says it is "pending" while it waits for the quorum partner (some people call it your "wingman"). Since all computers are of indeterminate reliability, and since not all people crunch 24/7, it is possible that they will return theirs very close to the deadline. Or if it passes the deadline, the workunit will be sent out to someone else instead and the process could repeat itself if they do not return the workunit immediately or before a new deadline. It isn't unheard of to have workunits remain in "pending" for up to 6 months, though it is a rarity these days.

It is also possible that your result and your quorum partner's result don't match up closely enough, requiring a third workunit or more to be sent out as a "tie breaker".
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