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Message 899060 - Posted: 24 May 2009, 19:14:35 UTC
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Bolden gets a warmer reception from the Coalition for Space Exploration, a group of space industry businesses.

"Bolden is a strong and experienced leader who will balance the priorities of the agency," said Dean Acosta, a Boeing executive and spokesman for the coalition.

"America's space program is at a critical crossroad," Acosta said. "NASA needs a clearly defined plan and unwavering support from our president and Congress to achieve our nation's space exploration objectives."


Obama gives NASA's new chief pilot a difficult flight plan

So, who is directing the future of NASA programs?
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Message 899120 - Posted: 24 May 2009, 21:52:56 UTC

Since Obama took office we've lost 1.8 million jobs. We need jobs. So why is Big Business ugly?
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Message 899221 - Posted: 25 May 2009, 3:10:58 UTC

Wasn't it Kennedy who got involved with the space program back in the 60s which helped spurr advancement?

Give it time and don't be too quick to judge.
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Message 899298 - Posted: 25 May 2009, 9:53:43 UTC - in response to Message 899060.  

Bolden gets a warmer reception from the Coalition for Space Exploration, a group of space industry businesses.

"Bolden is a strong and experienced leader who will balance the priorities of the agency," said Dean Acosta, a Boeing executive and spokesman for the coalition.

"America's space program is at a critical crossroad," Acosta said. "NASA needs a clearly defined plan and unwavering support from our president and Congress to achieve our nation's space exploration objectives."


Obama gives NASA's new chief pilot a difficult flight plan

So, who is directing the future of NASA programs?

As I see this issue from the wrong side of the Atlantic I believe that NASA should be taking a smaller and more administrative role in space exploration, from my point of view,outer space at least as far as say the eventual exploitation of the resources out there and there is a lot of it should be up to Commercially oriented enterprises I say encourage the likes of Boeing etc
not as Sub-contractor but as prime-contractor,having said that there is still a place for Government funds
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Message 899731 - Posted: 26 May 2009, 15:03:40 UTC

The problem with such a coalition of businesses is that they could not care less for the jobless. They answer only to the shareholders and when the shareholders are happy, the CEOs keep their jobs and pay themselves fat bonuses at the expense of public funds. Ask yourself, which big business have not contracted work out to cheaper sources overseas? When they are into the business it is strictly that. They don't care about space exploration. They are only interested in how to overcharge the state just like they do to the military. That is why big business is ugly.
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Message 899763 - Posted: 26 May 2009, 16:07:47 UTC

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Message 899829 - Posted: 26 May 2009, 23:30:10 UTC - in response to Message 899731.  

The problem with such a coalition of businesses is that they could not care less for the jobless. They answer only to the shareholders and when the shareholders are happy, the CEOs keep their jobs and pay themselves fat bonuses at the expense of public funds. Ask yourself, which big business have not contracted work out to cheaper sources overseas? When they are into the business it is strictly that. They don't care about space exploration. They are only interested in how to overcharge the state just like they do to the military. That is why big business is ugly.

CEOs do not pay themselves anything. Their compensation is determined by the board. If the board is happy, and the shareholders are happy. Then there is no problem.

If another company can do it, cheaper, they will make more money and their stock will out do the first. A free market handles it just find. Companies can not overcharge, unless there is no competition.

The problem as you mentioned is companies moving jobs overseas. That is because of government mandates, government taxes, government red tape, etc. Get government out of the private sector and remove the double taxation, and the jobs would come right back here.

It isn't big business that is ugly. It is the burdensom, big government that is ugly.
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Message 900544 - Posted: 28 May 2009, 16:55:50 UTC

After reading the article I get the impression that the struggle isn't so much about big business, but rather the continuing tug of war between robotic and manned space missions. How much of the environmental studies budget is split between NOAA & NASA? I'd rather see NASA devoting more of it's efforts towards space exploration.

Bolden looks as if he has the background to manage the agency well.
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Message 900556 - Posted: 28 May 2009, 17:15:34 UTC

I think NASA should cooperate more with ESA and maybe use some of its hardware. The recent launch of the Herschel-Planck mission has shown the capabilities of the Ariane 5 heavy launcher. Already the ESA ATV has been used to supply the ISS. What ESA lacks so far is a manned spacecraft similar to Soyuz, but it is already building a Soyuz capable launch tower in Kourou. Space exploration is so costly that international cooperation is necessary.
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Message 903276 - Posted: 3 Jun 2009, 17:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 899060.  
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Bolden gets a warmer reception from the Coalition for Space Exploration, a group of space industry businesses.

"Bolden is a strong and experienced leader who will balance the priorities of the agency," said Dean Acosta, a Boeing executive and spokesman for the coalition.

"America's space program is at a critical crossroad," Acosta said. "NASA needs a clearly defined plan and unwavering support from our president and Congress to achieve our nation's space exploration objectives."


Obama gives NASA's new chief pilot a difficult flight plan

So, who is directing the future of NASA programs?

The United States Congress, through budget mandates and funding levels.

Because of that, any business who builds stuff on contract for a government agency has to do their pricing based on the fact that Congress might pull the plug next year -- and they have to meet all of the reviews and requirements that NASA places on them, they can't just go off and make changes.

That's where folks like SpaceX have such a bright future. They aren't building rockets for NASA, they're going to carry cargo, on contract. Their actual vehicles aren't subject to the same kind of change-control and they're outside the bureaucracy.

Boeing wants a strong NASA administrator who has the backing of Congress and the White House because their model works best when NASA is well-backed by the administration.

I suspect this is true in most government-backed Space programs.

[edit]A stable political situation with backing for NASA is probably good for the program as a whole, not just good for "Big Business" -- stable environment, more predictable contracts, more stuff done.[/edit]
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