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Questions and Answers : Windows : Optimized Apps
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I'm looking for help in understanding how to choose and install an appropriate optimized version of seti@home for my machine. In the past, before BOINC, I was able to run a command line version completely hidden. Is this possible nowadays? If not, how can I improve my numbers? I'd also like to thank the folks who have already replied to my posts. | |
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The command line program increased speed because Windows 95 and Windows 98 were simply shell programs running on top of DOS 7 and DOS 7.10 respectively, and therefore more speed was gained through running under DOS. | |
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I went ahead and downloaded the Unified Installer from Lunatics and set it up according to the informatin provided by CPU-Z. The first thing I noticed after I rebooted my machine is that my CUDA WU's time to completion jumped from two hours forty minutes to just about eleven hours. I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this though. I will let it run for a bit and see what happens. Thanks again OzzFan. You my friend are on the ball. I'm not sure how you keep up with everything to be honest with you. | |
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So I woke up this morning and noticed that my machine crunched several WU's in just 6 hours. I also noticed that they did not reflect in my RAC in any way and aren't in the "Pending" list. When I look at the number of tasks assigned to my machine according to the SETI@Home website, it still shows 193 (same as last nigt when I went to bed) despite the fact that my machine downloaded 40+ work units this morning. Running WU's quicker is nice but I would also like to see the numbers for it. | |
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The replica database server that is taking care of showing tasks and credit is offline. You'll have to wait for it to come back on line. | |
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The replica database server that is taking care of showing tasks and credit is offline. You'll have to wait for it to come back on line. Shouldn't there be some notice about that when viewing those pages? | |
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I have systems with dual NVIDIA FX5200 graphics cards, can I run an optimized ap and get WU for both graphics adapters? Will any NVIDIA card work or is there a prefered model for best performance? | |
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The replica database server that is taking care of showing tasks and credit is offline. You'll have to wait for it to come back on line. There probably should be, but it isn't automated and requires one of the Admins to add it to the front page. It won't show on the actual Pending View pages though. You can also check for yourself by clicking the link on the front page that says "Server Status". ____________ BOINC FAQ Service BOINC & Optimized SETI download repository | |
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I have systems with dual NVIDIA FX5200 graphics cards, can I run an optimized ap and get WU for both graphics adapters? Will any NVIDIA card work or is there a prefered model for best performance? As long as you don't run them in SLI mode, I believe Raistmer's optimized CUDA app will work. I believe the minimum requirement for CUDA is any nVidia 8000 series chip or newer. ____________ BOINC FAQ Service BOINC & Optimized SETI download repository | |
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Sorry, but the FX 5200 isn't on the list of Cuda capable cards. http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html | |
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Wait..so there's a optimized Seti app for us GPU folders? Link? | |
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Raistmers app helps eliminate teh VLAR WU's that are slow to process on CUDA cards. It also does something with multiple CUDA cards which escapes me at the moment. | |
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Wait..so there's a optimized Seti app for us GPU folders? Link? If you're going to use optimized CUDA, you may as well use optimized apps for the CPU as well. You should try using the new Unified Installer which makes it easy to install all the apps without fiddling with the app_info.xml file. The Unified Installer is on my BOINC page (link is in my sig, "BOINC & SETI Repository"). Make sure you use the right one for 32bit or 64bit. ____________ BOINC FAQ Service BOINC & Optimized SETI download repository | |
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Okay..I looked at your site and I'm confused as to which one I need..I don't run the CPU WU's on the GPU cruncher I have..but I also don't want to go fiddling around with xml files or what not. | |
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Okay..I looked at your site and I'm confused as to which one I need..I don't run the CPU WU's on the GPU cruncher I have..but I also don't want to go fiddling around with xml files or what not. I didn't know you were doing GPU-only crunching. In that case, you probably could have select the CUDA app only in the installer and it would have been OK. I'm sure there is a guide somewhere for this? Over in Number Crunching there's a confusing guide! :) EDIT: I believe I found it..but I selected all 3 for it to install ..being that I thought you could control what your computer crunches in my Seti control menu on the site here? They complement each other. For instance, I have a machine that I've installed the optimized SETI app onto, but left the web preferences to accept AP, but it will never get AP because the app_info.xml file overrides the web preferences. You'll get a message in red on your Messages tab stating that you don't have a compatible AP app installed, but its a harmless message. The opposite is also true, if you install optimized apps for all three but your preferences do not allow for SETI CPU or AP, then you will not get them. Basically, in my MCSA classes, we called this "the rule of most restrictive between two settings is honored". ____________ BOINC FAQ Service BOINC & Optimized SETI download repository | |
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Is there a way to delete the optimized clients I downloaded and try re-downloading to only select the Cuda optimized app? | |
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Re-running the installer and changing your options will remove the apps you don't want. | |
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Okay, I'm not really noticing any improvement and some WUs are getting computation errors.. | |
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Okay, I'm not really noticing any improvement and some WUs are getting computation errors... Yes, but they are intentional!!! They kill the VLARs (Task 1245862512): <stderr_txt> VLAR WU (AR: 0.011156 )detected... autokill initialised SETI@home error -6 Bad workunit header | |
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Since BOINC does not show GPU time, you won't notice an improvement if you're watching the estimated time to completion metric. You'd have to wait and see you're RAC increase in the long run. | |
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What does VLAR mean? | |
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What does VLAR mean? Very Low Angle Range | |
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The optimized CUDA software was written to rejects VLAR WU because they take excessive time to process on CUDA compared to other angle ranges. | |
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![]() Nope. This is getting a little silly.. | |
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I'm going to go ahead and try the optimized app again and see how my RAC goes..but I just thought of this..if the optimized app can't crunch some WU's why does it bother asking for them from the Seti server? Seems like a complete waste of resources.. | |
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I'm going to go ahead and try the optimized app again and see how my RAC goes..but I just thought of this..if the optimized app can't crunch some WU's why does it bother asking for them from the Seti server? Seems like a complete waste of resources.. Because there's no way to specify what type of WUs to download from the server other than the two basic choices: MultiBeam or AstroPulse. Since AP cannot be crunched on the GPU (yet), you only have one choice: MultiBeam. ____________ BOINC FAQ Service BOINC & Optimized SETI download repository | |
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I suppose there's no ETA on the optimized AP app? | |
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As far as I'm aware, there's no ETA yet. An official AP app for CUDA hasn't even been released at this point. | |
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Okay, I'm stuck.. | |
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rt click on the start button then tools/folder options/view/hidden file and folders/show hidden files and folders click ok and close. yous should be able to see the folder now | |
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Hm..tried doing what you said right click start button and tools was not there? I just found a different way though..in the window of Documents and Settings, I clicked on Tools/Folder Options and found it there to unlock all folders.. | |
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Hm..tried doing what you said right click start button and tools was not there? I just found a different way though..in the window of Documents and Settings, I clicked on Tools/Folder Options and found it there to unlock all folders..oopas my bad rt click then explore then follows with tools ____________ come fly with us at TSWB. Turn off ASTROPULSE HERE | |
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Questions and Answers : Windows : Optimized Apps
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