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Message 894009 - Posted: 12 May 2009, 22:46:58 UTC

Spock's mother's name is Amanda Grayson. She is a direct descendant of Richard Grayson, noted acrobat and crime fighter, ward of Bruce Wayne. Richard Grayson was a descendant of the famed John Clayton, Viscount Greystoke, via a grandson named William Grayson (nee Clayton) who dropped the Clayton name to avoid the notoriety that would come from being a descendant of Tarzan. William's brother Henry did the same, but chose the name Gray. Henry is the great grandfather of Gabriel Gray aka Sylar.

What is not commonly known is that the "John Clayton" found living the jungle among the apes was not, in fact, the child of the prior Viscount Greystoke, but in fact a marooned Vulcan named Stoek. The people who found Stoek mistakenly assumed that by pointing at himself and identifying himself (in Vulcan) as "Stoek, son of T'zan" he was identifying himself as Tarzan of the house of Greystoke. Stoek found this a convenient fiction to allow him the resources to attempt to contact Vulcan. By the time he did so, he was quite involved in a personal relationship and the politics of Earth, and was requested by the Vulcan science academy to remain on earth as an observer prior to eventual first contact.

And people say I'm losing touch with reality...

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Message 894106 - Posted: 13 May 2009, 4:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 894009.

Your post explains a lot ... :)

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Message 894134 - Posted: 13 May 2009, 6:11:47 UTC

So this is what you've been up to instead of cleaning the den...

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Message 894685 - Posted: 14 May 2009, 19:09:21 UTC

+5 points for mentioning Spock in a blog.
+50 points for mentioning Bruce Wayne and Richard (Dick) Grayson.
-25 points for mentioning Tarzan.
-5 points for mentioning apes/monkeys.
+100 for not mentioning robots, ninjas, pirates or pirated robotic ninjas.

Yeah, I'm not your typical nerd. I gave you points for stuff that most others would take away points for not mentioning. The jury is still out on your lack of mentioning Chuck Norris and Mr. T.

So far, you're ahead in my book.
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Message 894710 - Posted: 14 May 2009, 20:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 894685.

No points for Vulcan spies inhabiting the Earth before "First Contact?"

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Message 894714 - Posted: 14 May 2009, 20:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 894710.

Oh, good one. +10 for that.
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Message 895210 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 2:16:35 UTC

Now if you could tie in Duncan Macleods immortal girlfriend Amanda, Id give you 100 points.
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Message 895234 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 2:43:28 UTC - in response to Message 895210.

What year was she born, and what year did she first suffer a "fatal" injury?

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Message 895236 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 2:48:53 UTC - in response to Message 895234.

What year was she born, and what year did she first suffer a "fatal" injury?


Im going to dig out that episode and watch it hope to have an answer in the morning.
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Message 895359 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 11:23:08 UTC

Amanda,born in 820 AD became immortal in 850 AD.
Portrayed by actress Elizabeth Gracen, born as Elizabeth Grace Ward.


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Message 895506 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 18:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 895359.

Obviously the actress is related to Spock and Tarzan. Do we know Amanda's original family name? Is it possible she is playing herself, and that she ended up in the past due to a time travel accident?
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Message 895623 - Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:31:17 UTC - in response to Message 895506.

Obviously the actress is related to Spock and Tarzan. Do we know Amanda's original family name? Is it possible she is playing herself, and that she ended up in the past due to a time travel accident?


I googled her name up but as you know the 21st centurty so called internet leaves a lot to be desired. But it seems she never had a last name in the historical record. Plausible deniabillty , she was a smart woman after all.









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Message 895729 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 1:30:53 UTC - in response to Message 895623.

I think that's clear evidence that Amanda and Elizabeth Graycen are the same person, and that a 22nd century warp field experiment was responsible for sending her back to about 840AD where she took the place of a non-immortal named Amanda, whom she closely resembled. That doesn't explain how she came to be immortal or how she managed to live to the 22nd century with her head still attached while all the other immortals were killed. Maybe she hadn't died the first time before the warp field experiment sent her back in time to become Amanda.

Doesn't seem to be much of a genetic explanation for the immortality seen in the Highlander series, so the immortality is probably unrelated to her Vulcan heritage.
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Message 895753 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 3:31:33 UTC

Could it be that all the immortals are nothing more than warp field throwbacks ( so to speak )? and the quickening is just the warp field bubble collapsing? Sort of like the movie Matrix that if you think you are dead you are dead?
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Message 895808 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 7:07:26 UTC - in response to Message 895753.

But the Matrix was just a holosuite simulation run at Quark's bar.
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Message 895872 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 11:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 895808.

But the Matrix was just a holosuite simulation run at Quark's bar.


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Message 895947 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 16:03:16 UTC - in response to Message 895808.

But the Matrix was just a holosuite simulation run at Quark's bar.


A virtual paradox? !!!!

Quarks bar only exists in a fictional tale created to amuse the residents of the matrix.

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Message 896245 - Posted: 18 May 2009, 1:39:30 UTC

I pity the fool that can't tie Mr. T into all this!

So, how many points for that?
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Message 896409 - Posted: 18 May 2009, 13:30:48 UTC - in response to Message 896245.

I pity the fool that can't tie Mr. T into all this!

So, how many points for that?


This is going to be lame but here goes.
Mr.T born Laurence Tureaud. May 21 1952 is really a Vulcan.
his vulcan name is Tu-Reaud.
He was sent to Earth 6 months after Arecibo pinged a few NEO's Yes those radar pulses got some attention.
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Message 897035 - Posted: 19 May 2009, 21:14:57 UTC

I believe it when Oprah discussed it in her bookclub........
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