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The mysql database crashed on Friday, then again on Saturday. The reasons are mysterious, though we've had similar crashes in the past - just not two in immediate succession like that. Most of the large, important tables (user, host, workunit, result) are using the innodb engine, while the many others (including team, forum preferences, posts, etc.) are using mysql's standard myisam engine. There's worry we may have lost a few rows in some of the myisam tables, though they seem to check out okay. The replica database, though, is in a confused state so we just shut it off for the time being. We're going to save any remaining cleanup for tomorrow's usual outage. As stated elsewhere, Jeff and I have adopted a policy of no-system-changes (except for emergencies) until after the anniversary. So as long as mysql continues to run well, we're not going to worry about this so much. | |
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Boy did you ever start a tornado of posts in your last update! | |
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I was digging for the url as OzzFan posted. I thought you would like to see it. | |
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I really hope that Matt, et al. don't get burned by the user group's unpolished comments on these boards. I have to slap my own fingers at times. | |
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I did a quick forum search here and nothing came up. Has moving to another database engine such as PostgreSQL been considered? I realize this would be post anniversary if it did happen because of the no-system-changes policy. | |
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I really hope that Matt, et al. don't get burned by the user group's unpolished comments on these boards. I have to slap my own fingers at times. I agree completely. As I see it, there are a practically infinite number of "US" and while each of us have talent and experience (in some cases, decades of experience) we also have our biases. In other words, for every possible choice, there is very likely one camp that would advocate every option, and for each group that thinks MySQL is the best, there is another that thinks it should be something else. ... and at the end of the day, we aren't the ones doing the work. It's Bob, and Jeff, and Matt. ____________ | |
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MMM I come to the tech news and find just apoligy's to jeff and bob !! ....... I thought this is where there is tech news about the site ?? .Or apologse to the users for a problem not fixed ,which has never happend in the 10 yrs i have been a member .I is also where setti aka bionic try's to explain what has happend when there was a system crash and how long it mite take to fix. Can we kept this part of the message to TECH NEWS ONLY please | |
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Is there any chance anybody could look into why seti is not updating its Boinc stats.Hey and thanks to the guys who kicked the server over the weekend ---- much appreciated !!!!! | |
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Is there any chance anybody could look into why seti is not updating its Boinc stats.Hey and thanks to the guys who kicked the server over the weekend ---- much appreciated !!!!! The Stats output is always taken from the replica database, and as Matt said it is in a confused state and has been therefore switched off. Hence no stats until it restored. | |
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Boy did you ever start a tornado of posts in your last update! Thats why i started the thread over in NC. I know how it works on other projects. Will try to make a donation for the admins on my birthday in june to sponsor a nice dinner for the staff. ____________ | |
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Trying to bring 12 cores online as last week Matt L. said SETI is running out of computing power. Been trying since last friday to get them working, finally got WUs very briefly this morning and then SETI went offline again, so those ran out. | |
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Is there any chance anybody could look into why seti is not updating its Boinc stats.Hey and thanks to the guys who kicked the server over the weekend ---- much appreciated !!!!! To me the STATS are someting farmed out - it has nothing to do with the PROJECT.They have ALWAYS been behind reality - they run when they run and that's it. Little about STATS has changed since SETI CLASSIC. STATS catch up EVENTUALLY, and as for the OTHER GUYS I CAN ONLY SAY - blessed are the peacemakers for they shall inherit the project.They don't receive the recognition they deserve. ____________ Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079 | |
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I think the problem is the perception that SETI needs to be up, not the perception that it can't stay up. ... and I think many of the more active forum members (and certainly anyone who has built a computer just to crunch) forget that we're supposed to be harnessing a waste product. Idle clock cycles. That's all SETI@Home really asks. Anything beyond that is gratefully accepted. ____________ | |
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Trying to bring 12 cores online as last week Matt L. said SETI is running out of computing power. Been trying since last friday to get them working, finally got WUs very briefly this morning and then SETI went offline again, so those ran out. UP TIME doesn't seem to be a problem with the wingmen I have observed - usually they are newbies - running an initial load of AP units or a lot of pending "other units" none of which they didn't YET get credit for. Even I shudder when I get an AP with a completion time of 97 hours and it takes 170 hours, or a AP at 107 hours and it takes 270 hours.A newbie I think should only have a cache of 2 days regardless of the number of processors and should have a credit score higher than zero in order to UPGRADE preferences. It is TRUE loss of UP TIME is bad P.R. but doesn't explain long term crunchers bailing out. My last comment might be better addressed in a political thread but considering the economies I MUST MAKE due to financial reasons, I still donated to SETI but it is something over the years I believe in ____________ Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079 | |
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A newbie I think should only have a cache of 2 days regardless of the number of processors and should have a credit score higher than zero in order to UPGRADE preferences. If a brand-new cruncher had a quota of 1 WU/CPU/Day that would make sure that the new cruncher didn't download weeks of initial work. When they return 1 valid work unit, their quota would double to two, and so on until it gets up to 100 work units. The code would be simple, but I'm sure that someone would find a way to describe this as discriminatory, or worse. ____________ | |
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Some months ago I brought on board a 1Ghz Pentium for a BURN IN and got a initial load of a MB unit with a completion time of 240 hours - Was I discriminatory about aborting it? | |
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Some months ago I brought on board a 1Ghz Pentium for a BURN IN and got a initial load of a MB unit with a completion time of 240 hours - Was I discriminatory about aborting it? I would run a burn in test for at least 24hrs. I know that the DCF for MB tasks, using default app is ~0.25. I know if I used the optimised app it would probably double performance. Therefore is it a problem if the burn in takes a little bit longer than 24 hrs? | |
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Some months ago I brought on board a 1Ghz Pentium for a BURN IN and got a initial load of a MB unit with a completion time of 240 hours - Was I discriminatory about aborting it? I wouldn't say so, but it seems that no matter what you do, there is someone who will find a way to be offended. ____________ | |
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I agree with you completely. An alternative approach would be to enable cancellations originating from the server side, perhaps if the client isn't 'living up to expectations' regarding work return rates. | |
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I'm offended that you would think I would be offended by what you say!! :) ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC | |
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